NYT Week in Review: Sorting Out Pakistan’s Many Struggles

I really like the title of this article. Pakistan is not facing one, but instead competing struggles that has destroyed the social fabric of the country. On this very forum, we see extremists both in the religious and secular sense trying to further this hatred.

The most important question to all my Pakistani brothers and sisters is: Do you believe in Pakistan, irrespective of religion, sect, province, or ideology? I hope the answer is yes.

We need a leader who can initiate a national reconciliation, one that will place Pakistaniyat before anything else.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/21/weekinreview/21marsh.html

Although created as a homeland for Muslims when it was separated from mostly Hindu India at the breakup of the British Raj in 1947, Pakistan from the beginning has been plagued by chaos and violence. It is not so much a nation-state as an unwieldy collection of competing ethnic groups, tribes, castes and interests.

Indeed, the return of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto last week to join an uneasy coalition with the selfappointed president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, was a product of a struggle between civilian and military authority that has defined the country’s politics. Her father, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, was ousted in a military coup in 1977 and hung by Gen. Muhammad Zia ul-Haq two years later.
Last week, Ms. Bhutto herself suggested that the bomb blasts that ripped through a delirious crowd in Karachi and nearly succeeded in killing her had their roots in the long, intertwined relationship of fundamentalist Islamic groups with the army’s powerful Inter-Services Intelligence agency.
The agency funneled money to Afghan mujahedeen when they fought the Soviets. It has supported Islamic separatists in Kashmir. And it helped create the Taliban. And while the United States regards General Musharraf as a crucial ally in the war on terrorism, recent intelligence estimates say that Al Qaeda has been able to regroup in the tribal areas along the Afghan border. Concerns about the terrorist camps and the country’s stability are heightened by the fact that Pakistan has nuclear weapons.

Those conflicts have played out against Pakistan’s other regional, ethnic and class divisions. Each of the four main ethnic groups — Punjabi, Sindi, Baluch and Pashtun — has its own interests. Pakistan’s Muslims are overwhelmingly Sunnis. But there are also Shiites, who are frequently attacked by Sunni fundamentalists who consider them heretics.

Although there is a growing middle class in the cities — these Pakistanis formed the backbone of demonstrations against General Musharraf for firing the chief judge of the Supreme Court last spring — a great many of Pakistan’s 165 million people are desperately poor. (Its total population is bigger than Russia’s.) With the central government weak and often corrupt, much of the real power has been held by the army and a class of hugely wealthy feudal landholders, who include Ms. Bhutto herself.

Punjab: The Center of Power
Home to about half of Pakistanis, as well as Lahore, the country’s thriving second city and its cultural heart. Punjabis dominate the federal machinery and the army, much to the unhappiness of Pakistan’s other ethnic groups, all minorities.
Lahore sits not far from the Indian border (the only land bridge across the border is a 30-minute drive away) and is poised to benefit from the gradual opening of trade between the two rivals. Like all of Pakistan’s major cities, it is booming, with an independent news media and an elite and highly educated upper class.
A growing urban middle class has prospered under General Musharraf. Rural Punjab, by contrast, is largely poor and agricultural. Southern Punjab produces most of the country’s economically critical cotton crop.
There, especially, feudal arrangements persist. Even in this most fertile part of the country, arable land and water for irrigation are inadequate.

WHAT THEY SEEK
Punjabis are accustomed to being the public face of Pakistan. They feel the rivalry with India especially strongly. The urban elites are impatient for democracy and unhappy with the United States after its invasion of Iraq. General Musharraf, once popular in Punjab, is no more, adding to anti- American feeling. Water is a source of great tension between provinces — the agricultural sector has its eye on water from the frontier provinces. Much of the country’s water now comes from the disputed territory of Kashmir, adding to conflict with India.

Sindh: In Punjab’s Shadow
Largely rural and agricultural, Sindh is Ms. Bhutto’s power base. The farm areas are dominated by wealthy feudal families — like the Bhuttos — who employ impoverished local Sindhis to work the land.

But Karachi, Pakistan’s largest city and main port, is a polyglot megalopolis dominated by a different group known as mohajirs — Muslims, many of them civil servants, who fled from India during the fighting over the 1947 partition. (Islamabad, the capital, was built from scratch to house the government.)

There have long been violent clashes between the Mohajir National Movement (MQM in the Urdu language) and rival parties, including Ms. Bhutto’s. The MQM is allied with General Musharraf and has a reputation for thuggish politics. It was the main instigator of deadly rioting in May after General Musharraf’s dismissal of the Supreme Court Chief Justice Iftikar Mohammed Chaudhry.
As in many corners of Pakistan, a local liberation movement percolates, this one Sindhi.

WHAT THEY SEEK
Sindhis chafe at the Punjabi-dominated central government and army, believing that their province is shortchanged in respect and government largess. The province is largely dry, water is inadequate and energy and education needs are not fully met — as in the rest of the country.

Borderland: The Wild, Wild West
Rugged, mountainous, this is the land of the Pashtun, where the government’s writ does not run.

Fierce mountain tribesmen, the Pashtun straddle the Durand Line, the border the British drew in 1893 between Pakistan and Afghanistan. In practice, the line is nonexistent — impossible to seal and riddled with smugglers’ trails.
The Pashtun live by a strict code called Pushtunwali which requires them to protect their guests (like Osama bin Laden) and fight foreign invaders.
The North-West Frontier Province and two of the seven Federally Administered Tribal Areas known as North Waziristan and South Waziristan have become havens for a regrouping Al Qaeda and other foreign fighters, including Uzbeks. There has been heavy fighting recently, but much of the territory is lost to the government. Tribesmen captured some 250 Pakistani soldiers and are still holding them.

WHAT THEY SEEK
To be left alone.

Baluchistan: Restive, Remote
A large, sparsely settled and natural-gasrich region with a clan-based population of ethnic Baluchis and Pashtuns. It is badly lacking in water and good roads.
Baluchistan borders Afghanistan and Iran and has extensive smuggling, mostly of heroin, with both countries. Its main city, Quetta, has become a refuge for Taliban fighters and the site of a command council, or shura, that directs attacks in southern Afghanistan.

WHAT THEY SEEK
Baluchi grievances are largely economic: they want higher royalties for their natural gas and a larger share of government resources. “They have a welldeveloped sense of grievance and a culture that reinforces it,” said Teresita C. Schaffer of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. The province, she said, is more or less in a perpetual state of rebellion.

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nytimes is third rate newspaper whose reporters dont know shin from shinola. historically its reporters in the m.e. have been in the pocket books of yehudis. the pattern is now being repeated in s.a. indians being substituted for yehudis. india is a huge market and commercial organisations will never alienate indians.

the problem that pak is facing is a centuries old problem that even the british could not tame. and before the british, warlords like abdali attacked s.a. at will
this article in times of ldn toches on a bit of history:

…The tentativeness has been such that Pakistan’s Army did not venture into the Tirah Valley until 2002, 55 years after its absorption into Pakistan. But before accusations of neglecting duty are heaped upon President Musharraf’s predecessors, it is well to recall that the British Raj also kept as much distance as it could from taking responsibility for what are now known as the Federally Administered Tribal Areas.

Having annexed the Punjab in 1849, the British authorities looked nervously towards the mountain regions beyond. Humiliation in Afghanistan had taught the hard lesson that bringing the tribesmen to heel was beyond the reach of British ambitions. A policy of “masterly inactivity” was pursued instead, with the focus on bribing chieftains to keep the main passes open. Whatever else they got up to was their own affair.

The proviso was that they should not launch raids into the areas directly under British administration. This was like asking mice to kindly refrain from the cheeseboard. Thus British-led troops found themselves mounting a succession of punitive hit-and-run retaliatory missions into the mountains before getting out again at the first opportune moment.
The extent to which these efforts produced short-term obedience may be gathered by the repetition with which they were made. British expeditions were launched against various Waziri tribes in 1852, 1859, 1860, 1880, 1881, 1894, 1897 and 1902. Missions continued during the interwar years.
The most famous expedition against the Pashtun tribesmen was led by Sir Bindon Blood’s Malakand Field Force in 1897 with the 23-year-old Winston Churchill in tow. “The strong aboriginal propensity to kill, inherent in all human beings, has in these valleys been preserved in unexampled strength and vigour.” Churchill reported of his experience there, proceeding to identify the strain of Islam, “founded and propagated by the sword” as stimulating “a wild and merciless fanaticism”.
A
ll that has changed in the succeeding 110 years is the ability of these fanatics to inflict ever greater horrors upon those whose writ still fails to run in the mountains of Pakistan’s border regions

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How is that possible when we are so busy point scoring that it is more important to us than Paksitan itself. Let these bombers destroy Pakistan, all we are interested is to put the blame on our favourite hate pets and feel satisfied. With such mindset Allah hee Hafiz hai Pakistan ka.

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btw bangladesh comprises of one ethnic group and yet the country has always been politically unstable with more military coups than seen in pak. similarly, egypt only comprises of arabs and yet has been under military rule for the last 40 years.

the basic premise of this article is therefore completely idiotic. article is factually incorrect as well. most popular sindhi politician was bhutto and he was a believer in strong central govt to the point of dismissing both balochistan as well as nwfp govt under his rule. similarly pakhtuns in the last election overwhelmingly voted for mma which has been an opponent of nationalists.

bottomline, any pakistani which takes nytimes seriously probably believes that goras are superior to other races.

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^ But bangladesh is on a path of democracy which is supported by their army. Even now, the army is playing an impartial role w/o coming to power.

Btw, the seventies coup had to do with mujib's bad luck or disastrous management of the famine and trying to become a dictator by introducing the one-party rule.

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i dont know what your definition of democracy is? to me democracy requires free elections. bengali army prevented last election from taking place and has thrown thousands of politicians including the leaders of the two most popular parties in jail. army has said that the next elections wont take place for the next two years. clearly bengali army does not trust electorate and therefore its actions are clearly not democratic.

on egypt, can you please explain how nasser, sadat and mubarak came to power? did these people get to power based on their position in the armed forces or as a result of free elections?

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If Pakistaniyat was placed above all else - attention would have been given to the 3/4 Provinces that are in serious neglect, and thereby this whole extremist business would probably not be thriving at the moment in these areas.

Its very simple. No arguments needed. Yet people still find enough to yap about.

Just fix the problem. Things will fall into their natural order. No one in these provinces will resist when you try to bring them economic prosperity.

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Nasser, saadat etc are / were dictators but they didn't come from the army.

As for bangladesh, I think your sublimal despise for bengalis is coming into play. I still find many pakis hating bengalis [and vice versa] when, clearly, 1971 wasn't some simple rebellion. As for the current situation, I wonder what has stopped the army over there to take over as you are saying that they want to be in power? Bangladesh was going through the same two PM cycle like us and political rioting and corruption had paralyzed the nation hence the current steps. I'll keep my fingers crossed on them...

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KF, I disagree....

Pakistan with having so many different ethnic groups means they are all competing for the same resources

and thus, they elect people not by the betterment of Pakistan but for the betterment of their ethnic people and thus this is not a democracy but a numbers game

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I think the first step should be to have a US three-tier system in Pakistan: federal, state, and local government that has real power. Sadly, I think even the nazim system will go if musharraf is gone..

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I'm telling you, it won't happen even in the distant future. It requires a change in thinking of our so-called "majority" and I have yet to see it happen. I have actually found out that people still haven't learnt pakistaniyat even when they are sitting in america and represent Pakistan. This is why I have very little hope in Pakistan.

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Pakistan's problems would start to dissipate once its people become Pakistanis first and Muslims second.

Now I know, this is not acceptable to vast majority of Muslims. But the fact still remains.

Obsessive practice of religion has done little good to any nation in the modern era.

End of Story.

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Musharraf administration was doing well till he & co. joined the war on terror...and he he & co. go on...they surely will fall...Period!

PS: Fidayeen are far ahead of Shaitan and just ½ a step behind Allah...a logical mind should have its conclusion to keep fighting or not...

PS1: I wonder how many people have beaten Shaitan... :D

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^ So what is next? They will be salafs too?

You do remember that you will end up in hell for supporting the death of innocent people, right? You make fun of barelvis etc yet your abdul wahab will not save you from supporting such actions....

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why can't i edit posts?

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I might agree with first part "Pakistan first" but latter is not true "Muslims second", lots of us actually put our ethnicity first though we might say "We are Muslim first" but practically its the opposite. Unless you are talking about FATA and extremist brigade (which is not more than 5% IMO).

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It becomes haram to edit posts (after 24 hours).

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Man, from this article, it appears Pakistan is pretty much going to hell in a hand bascket..

Fortunately, I dont believe it as bad as this article portrays and I doubt most other people will doubt that.

What Pakistan needs is government thats decentralized, and one that focuses on the intrests of the people and not those of the elite. If you can get social justice your society, you will be fine.

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Can I check if Pakistan does not have this setup? Aplogoies for I am not sure of the political setup but this point is moot.

India with far more divisions (ethnic, lingustic, religious) than imaginable in this world gets along because there is a local, state and then the central govt. The local and state parties (regional parties) are gaining strength year on year. The central govt is now all but coliation of many such parties. This is a journey that must be travelled and should not be curbed or ridiculed. The cost though can be said to be a slower/less powerful central govt and sometimes not to the nations short term interest in some areas.
But more importantly this atleast makes sure that the regional and local political aspirations are displayed and rewarded and gives them a chance to blame themselves than some one else.

For e.g for ages Bihar politicans milked on the theme that the Central govt was responsible for their backwardness. But then with the growth of the southern economy (who never had a large representation in the central govt) the Bihari's slowly realised the con game and have started taking baby steps
Apologies if I have derailed the main subject track here....

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India also has two other things [actually woven into one]: education and its residual affect on higher nationalism. The media also promotes nationalism. If you want a debate on openness, Pakistan is much more open in the sense that separatists get press in Pakistan unlike Indian press which makes it seem that kashmir and nagaland barely exist at all..