NS and IK income and Taxes

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I have done my own investigation as well based on information provided on PTI website and I haven't been impressed. The findings did not match my naive expectations. There is no difference between the parties, however PTI claims to be different and we have started to discover that it is not.

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Either it is alimony or a financial settlement. I think that a financial settlement would be more likely than alimony in this day and age. If he has received a financial settlement then he should have assets that he has not declared, possibly based abroad or held in a trust.

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Imran Khan’s financial credibility?

Seems IK has money abroad in the EU and the Caribbean for investment purposes through SKMH.

3 million at that. Why isn’t that invested in Pakistan?

http://www.shaukatkhanum.org.pk/images/skm_img/downloads/Audits/financial09.pdf

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Signing a bill means they are willing to be investigated, and have nothing to hide. And if they are hiding something, it will be caught in an audit. How hard is that to deduce?

If PTI is no different, then lets investigate them. All PTI MNAs are willing to be audited. Whereas PMLN MNAs are not.

As for the auditor-general, his powers were curtailed once he announced his intention to audit govt expenditures, mainly the Rs. 500 biliion paid to IPPs. So to expect transparency from the Sharif family is a lost cause. The new breed of 'shah-sey-zyada-shah-kay-wafadar' on this forum is quite hilarious, as many seem to be defending the Sharifs on things that even the Sharifs themselves have admitted to, and found guilty on, by courts of law.

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500 billion paid to IPPs was built up during PPP rule and it was paid by current government as soon as it came to power. Auditor General can audit the system to ensure that the correct amounts had been billed and agreed with PEPCO but he cannot audit the payments themselves as that would put off private capital that has invested in the sector and be seen as victimisation by bureaucracy.

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Auditor General cannot audit payments?
Are you kidding?

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We had this situation when NS tried to renegotiate contracts with IPPs that PPP had allowed, all that happened was future investors stayed clear of Pakistan.

The question is not auditing payments as payments are made all the time and the PEPCO or NTDC would have their accounts audited all the time. The purpose seems to be to harass the IPPs and earn commission for the bureaucrats. The assumption behind auditing is that IPPs have been overpaid, so how would that be possible when government bodies have accepted the billed amounts and the electricity has supplied during PPP rule. The government bodies have their accounts audited.

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so you are saying now tweets are enough for ‘analysts’? Lets check some tweets:

Can I ask you IQ of this “tweeter”? Or education of this tweeter? Or do you think this is a good analysis/fact?

and the 12 non-tax payers are? Good analysis I’d say.

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You need to present your view with reasons or challenge the view put forward with reasons. You have failed to put your view forward or to contradict the statement with reasons.

If you want to contradict then let me know how much tax Mian Rasheed paid, how many mpa are non tax payers, and how much tax did alvi paid?

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I already said before but looks like you missed it, trying again:

Does this guy now difference in income vs revenue? That is why I asked for his IQ/degree.

If you are okay with such “analysis” then I have nothing more to say.

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The more money Imran makes, the fewer taxes he pays - thenews.com.pk

ISLAMABAD: The more money he makes, the less tax he pays and meanwhile keeps the cash away from bank. This is not a story of a typical rich Pakistani but of Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan.

If the last four years are any guide, the PTI chief paid the highest tax in 2010 on an income that was the lowest when compared to the following three years. While he registered a handsome increase in earnings from 2011-13, it was accompanied with an 80 percent decrease in tax as the business income used to be declared earlier was largely replaced with agriculture and services (outside Pakistan) income.

Another major shift has been noted in terms of his changing priorities with regard to the parking of cash. In the beginning, he would keep it at bank and gradually started keeping it away from the bank.

Imran had the maximum cash (Rs6.2 million) in bank account by 2010 when he paid the highest amount of tax i.e. Rs1.8 million over an income of Rs10.6 million. This contrasted with the minimum bank balance of Rs362,069 in 2011 when he registered the earning of Rs23.50 million, the highest in four years. It accompanied by a drastic cut in his tax as he paid Rs322,110 that year.

In yet another instance, a major difference in tax amount was noted despite the fact that there was a minor variation in the annual income of two separate years. Apparently, there is 17.34 percent difference in the income that Imran reported in 2010 and 2013 but intriguingly a variation of 83.50 percent in the tax amount has been recorded in the corresponding years.

Imran paid Rs1.85 million tax over the declared income of Rs10.63 million in 2010 whereas his tax drastically reduced (Rs194,936) over relatively bigger income (Rs12.32 million) in 2013, according to a detailed analysis carried out by Agha Samiullah, a tax consultant.

How did this major cut in his tax amount occur? Imran had declared a sum of Rs8.2 million as income generated through business in 2010 financial year that caused him heavy taxation. The following year, business income was reduced to Rs546,620 whereas agriculture income and foreign remittances registered an increase. Business income’ has disappeared as there is no mention of it in tax returns of 2012 and 2013.

Imran paid the highest tax in 2010 of Rs1.85 million over an income of Rs10.63 million generated through business, profit on debt, agriculture, services (outside Pakistan) and property rent. By the close of that financial year, he had almost equal amount of cash in hand (Rs6.8 million) and at bank (Rs6.2 million).

The year 2011 noticed the highest earning with Rs23.5 million that was 54 percent more than the previous year. However, tax deduction was 83 percent less than 2010 as he paid only Rs322,110. The types of earnings mentioned noticed a negligible amount of business income (Rs546,620) and a major increase in agriculture income (from Rs750,000 in 2010 to Rs2.3 million in 2011). Foreign remittances (charges of the services he offers outside Pakistan) jumped from Rs1.1 million in 2010 to Rs19.7 million in 2011. Property rent was also doubled during that financial year. This huge outflow of income notwithstanding, money in bank at the close of financial year was Rs576,000 that contrasted with Rs1.1 million cash in hand.

In 2012, Imran declared income was Rs16.1 million and tax paid on it was Rs273,339. Significant change during this year was the absence of any business income. Profit on debt, agriculture, services (outside Pakistan) and property rent was declared as source of income. Another noticeable development was an increase of cash in hand that was Rs12.1 million whereas cash at bank was Rs2.1million.

He declared Rs12.3 million income in 2013 and paid only Rs194,936 tax over it. Most of the income declared was from agriculture and services (outside Pakistan). This year saw the declaration of the highest amount of cash in hand (Rs13.61 million) whereas Rs381,765 was in bank at the closing of that financial year.

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When did NS try to renegotiate IPP contracts? Are you referring to 1997, when they went to court to nullify the 15% returns committed to by PPP? If so, then they must have one heck of an explanation for all the MOUs they have been signing since last year, since none of them promises anything less than 18% to investors, and the guaranteed returns go as high as 33% on the dollar.

Audits are done to ensure that billing is correct, and payments are correct, and the services for which the billing is being done was actually rendered. If all those blanks are filled, I dont see any reason why PMLN would have to avoid an audit of the 500 billion payment to IPPs. After all, that audit was of the finance ministry, not of the IPPs, so no reason for IPPs or investors to fear anything.

By the way, the main reason behind the audit was to verify/clear allegations that IPP payments were handed out disproportionately, keeping in mind the fact that several IPP owners have close ties to the Sharif family, but as expected, Sharifs arent exactly known for their honesty.

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Umer Cheema has turned out to be an immature goof, whose sole job as a Junk group employee these days is to fling mud at Imran, and hope that some of it sticks in his lifetime. He has asked and answered his own questions in his article about 10 times, yet still is avid to quote stuff that shows nothing but bias.

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After PM mentioned geo in parliament geo is totally exposed.geo jang n the news not authentic but if ppl still post news from these sources or their tweets just show how weak n lame it is n they dont have anything to defend their argument #EnoughSaid](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=EnoughSaid) #KeepTrolling](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=KeepTrolling) :chai:

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Yes, GEO/Jang are terrible and biased unlike ARY and & their planted interview specialists who is usually on the container with IK & calls himself journalist. Talk about credibility...is this not case of pot calling the kettle black? :D

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Umar Cheema is the last person i would believe after seeing his 3rd class & chichora behaviour on social media and those famous words from mohtaram Nawaz Sharif “Geo ka naam lou”. Without reading though, it’s a common sense that more income doesn’t necessarily mean more tax payable, there are plenty of factors that could affect the final amount payable. Without checking the tax return lodgement, only an ignorant fool can determine what should be the final amount. Also, there are legal and genuine ways to reduce your taxes and EVERYONE does that in Western countries.

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Heck with ARY and their 'planted' interview specialists. Im not favoring anyone here. But do a self check for a second.

You very likely live in the west, where most of the people tend to file taxes on their own. Based on that very basic and trivial taxation knowledge, can you not determine the possible facts behind the numbers on Imran's tax return? And can you not smell the rubbish spewing out of Umer Cheema's 'explanation'?

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Two wrongs dont make right. Check tht media thread if geo is ecposed so is ARY thts y we share news from duniya samaa n express though i have doubt on express who fired their anchors on gov demand.

But GS is blessed wth ppl who post only murtaza ali shah n umer cheema tweets. By the way umer cheema was exposed by arshad sharif in live show on duniya tv #Trolls](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=Trolls) :rolleyes:

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^ Cheap trolling, nothing else.

Their shoddy response always consist of harping of generous ARY, yet many posters here don't even post news or links from ARY's site. It is only the desperate and die hard Nawaz Sharif fans who believe any crap that comes of Geo's anchors' mouth. They seem to have a problem with ARY's bias, but are too blinded by vengeful ignorance to see the bias in Geo's reports. Hypocrites. Who are they kidding?

As with Umar Cheema, that twit is everything but a journalist. He honestly can stoop to any level to please his masters. I remember it was this low life twitter champ of Nawaz Sharif supporters 'broke' the news that IK has impregnated some 21 year old girl, only to bloody apologies for his lies later.