Re: Non muslims dont go to heaven?
Salam Yazdi,
I dont have to get angry, as I stated earlier you have read my post upto 4 times infact you forgot your own post in the meantime. Secondly bin laden aapke bade bhai lagte hain you talking so confidently about him and his version of Islam as if you met him personally and he is your close relative. I have told you earliers its not your words or my words but word of Allaah.
Well brother its better you analyze the Quran completely.
Please try to understand the Quran from the Principles of Sunnah from Ilumalnazool
Those were your words exactly, my brother thats why i had to get Ibn kathir and Tabari into picture one place you talk about Quran other placy you talk about Sunnah now who is confused.
Secondly, in my first post in this thread i mentioned i want you to argue wrt only the Quran and until now i havent got any verse from you, i expect you to do it.
Firstly did i ever talk about Ibn kathir and ibn Tabari wrt and compared it to Quran, it you who claimed understand it with the time of revelation, **specific times to the sahabas, **so i had to make you understand you are not only one learned here i also do my studies.
Now i am asking you please tell me from teh Quran what will happen to the ones who have associated partners with God, and if you say that answer is not there in the Quran you have some problems.
I really appreciate you have read my post upto 4 times, but i have even requested in the mpost please refute the verses in the Quran i am n ot here to win a war against you, i simply asked you prove the Quran wrong, dont prove me wrong those are not my words.
Now i am challenging you and the words of Allaah, sounds agression go ahead prove your prowess. I dont need any knowledge from mullah i can do it on my own.
Regarding abrogation, thats an other topic please ready the post below (i.e. if you have time) when once someone commented that Quran can be abrogated by Mutawatir hadeeth this was my response, and please dont take me into the concept of naskh.
Dear Brother,
From your post I have nothing to disagree....
I just need answer from you if you disagree with me on the point that these verses regarding shirk have to be taken for guidance and not for judging any one, as the right to judge only belongs to Allah. If you agree with me on this point we have no other point of difference.
Regarding your concept of checking these tafseers to check the sequence of nazool only, and you agree to the principles of sunnah, and you study quran under these principles of sunnah I think we belong to exactly the same school of thought.
We are actually both saying the same things with just one point of difference that I am requesting you not to start judging anyone as this is the biggest mistake our clergy does....
For abrogation concept I am not talking about abrogation of quran with hadith, I am talking about mullah concept of abrogating one verse of quran with another. That's how they create the likes of Bin Laden....