Are they allowed, I have seen a lot of Desi’s with Persian names but no one with say a Sanskrit name?
Are they allowed if the meaning is not bad?
Our Prophets :saw: wife/concubine mother Maria didn’t have an Arabic name, or is “Maria” an Arabic name too? Was she even a Muslim or did she remain a Christian?
Re: Non-Arabic names which have a good meaning.
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*Originally posted by Zakiii: *
Are they allowed, I have seen a lot of Desi’s with Persian names but no one with say a Sanskrit name?
Are they allowed if the meaning is not bad?
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Raja is Sanskrit.
Yes but I’ve never seen it used as a first name.
Really we have more rights over Sanskrit since it’s an Aryan language, more Pakistanis are Aryan than Indians who tend to be Dravidian.
what about seema????
Seema is also an Arabic name.
im not sure what the respective meaning are for both, the Indian and Arabic Seema.
Arabic and persian names are the best.
Asalam o Alakaum,
(1) Only those names are forbidden which conflicts with the teachings of religions (Islam) . Names should have some meanings or good reference.
(2) Languages grows and share words from neighboring areas (specifically) (as common words) because of communication between people as a result of trade and other relationships.
(3) Languages inherit words from old languages.
(4) No Language is forbidden in Islam.
(5) Urdu speaking are allowed to use Urdu names, Persians are allowed to use Persian names, English are allowed to use English names similarly Sanskrit are allowed to use Sanskrit names But those names should not be conflicting with the teachings of religions and its culture.
Wasalam,
inuit
My name is Allan.
inuit
mate any referance fromquran or some thing or r v jsu talking hanky panky here :) btw personallyi dont agree withur ideas od hving Christain ie english names
btw wots wrong with triditional Arabic persian names. and there is no such thing as urdu names bec urdu is a very modern language if compared with persian arabic or sanskrith
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btw personallyi dont agree withur ideas od hving Cgristain ie english names
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Get a hold of your typing, ahmadarsalan ... this way you will mess up even good names.
A name is a name. It should have a good meaning. Why does it matter which language it originates from? Many of the Prophet's names are obviously not Arabic, but muslims have them because they are good names... like Adam, Yousaf/Joseph, Daniyal/Daniel, Sulyman/Solomen, Yaqoob/Jacob, Haroon/Aaron etc.
There are some muslims who think that Arabic or Persian is the only way to go if you want to name a muslim baby. If you want to use an Arabic or Persian name... by all means go ahead, but get out of this thinking that this is the ONLY Islamically-approved naming system.
By the way.
An English name is NOT equal a Christian name. Big difference.
ahmadarsalan
Faisal said what I wanted to say; Thanks
Plus it doesn’t mean that if you cant find any reference from Qur’an; its against the teachings of Islam. See if there is something conflicting with Quran and Islamic teachings then don’t do it; it’s forbidden otherwise no harm in doing. Think the other way and don’t be narrow-minded; its not hanky panky.
Wasalam
Fasil English language is drived form latin which was spoken by romans they thus turned out to become Romoan Catholic. So where is the difference. English names in our society are thought to b Christain names because most of the english speking countries have Christanity as their main religion.
Innuit if not a verse form quran im quite sure there might be a hadith on naming ur children which you could present to support our ideas :)
i have noticed that part of the name comes from the lineage and the rest from the place where one resides. you can live in the US and name your child 'al-zahwari' and let the child suffer for the rest of his life for no one will be able to pronounce it properly. yousuf youhana couldve been joseph youhana ... but yousuf instead of joseph makes it easier for him to get by in pakistan. hope you see the point.
The most famous example of name-change is that of Hazrat Abu Bakr (Razi Allah). His pre-Islamic name was Abdul Ka'baa. After he embraced Islam, he changed the name and assumed the name of Abdullah. Point is, if the meaning of the name points to shirk, a muslim shouldn't have it. Otherwise, it really does not matter which language the name is from. Names of all pre-Islamic prophets are all from non-Arabic languages... Hebrew, Aramaic etc. It doesn't mean muslims shouldn't have these names, just because these are not Arabic names.
Also, there is no harm in names in Greek, English, Latin, Afrikaan or Swahili language; as long as you think the meaning is a nice one and does not expressly denote shirk.
it may not denote shirk but could any one state a hadith regarding this matter before any one does any thing against the virtues of Isam. Any way the personality of a person can kinda be seen as first impression ( is with good meaning)
Any way Fasil bhai there is nothing as pre-Islamic prophets, every Prophet was giving the same message that there is no god but Allah which ended on Holy Prophet PBUH. :)
Exactly. Now you are on the right track. So get out of the Arabic-only thinking and focus on the meanings, whatever language it may be. Ofcourse, if you want an Arabic-only name… more power to you.
Here is a hadith thats frequently quoted:
The Prophet, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, is reported to have said, “You’ll be called on the Day of Resurrection by your names and your father’s names, so choose good names for yourselves.” (Reported by Abu Dawud)
Makes no restriction that the name should be in some specific language.
Ofcourse, the two most favorite names are in Arabic… as the hadith goes: “The dearest names to Allah are Abdullah and Abdur-Rahman.” (Reported by Muslim). Then again, we have this: Abu-Musa said, “I was blessed with a son so I brought him to the Prophet and he named him Ibrahim.” (Reported by Al-Bukhari)
*Source: Islam Online*
The question is not only English language. Question is non-Arabic; non-Arabic does not mean English only. English is only one of 67 'living' languages in Europe (Fischer Weltalmanach 1994: 887). The number of languages listed for Pakistan is 69. The number of languages listed for Iran is 71. The number of languages listed for Saudi Arabia is 5. The number of languages listed for Afghanistan is 45. The number of languages listed for India is 398. There are 10 Different flavors of Persian language.
There are 35 Different flavors of Arabic Language.
ARABIC, ALGERIAN SAHARAN SPOKEN (Algeria)
ARABIC, ALGERIAN SPOKEN (Algeria)
ARABIC, BAHARNA SPOKEN (Bahrain)
ARABIC, CHADIAN SPOKEN (Chad)
ARABIC, CYPRIOT SPOKEN (Cyprus)
ARABIC, DHOFARI SPOKEN (Oman)
ARABIC, EASTERN EGYPTIAN BEDAWI SPOKEN (Egypt)
ARABIC, EGYPTIAN SPOKEN (Egypt)
ARABIC, GULF SPOKEN (Iraq)
ARABIC, HADRAMI SPOKEN (Yemen)
ARABIC, HIJAZI SPOKEN (Saudi Arabia)
ARABIC, JUDEO-IRAQI (Israel)
ARABIC, JUDEO-MOROCCAN (Israel)
ARABIC, JUDEO-TRIPOLITANIAN (Israel)
ARABIC, JUDEO-TUNISIAN (Israel)
ARABIC, JUDEO-YEMENI (Israel)
ARABIC, EASTERN EGYPTIAN BEDAWI SPOKEN (Egypt)
ARABIC, LIBYAN SPOKEN (Libya)
ARABIC, MESOPOTAMIAN SPOKEN (Iraq)
ARABIC, MOROCCAN SPOKEN (Morocco)
ARABIC, NAJDI SPOKEN (Saudi Arabia)
ARABIC, NORTH LEVANTINE SPOKEN (Syria)
ARABIC, NORTH MESOPOTAMIAN SPOKEN (Iraq)
ARABIC, OMANI SPOKEN (Oman)
ARABIC, SA<IDI SPOKEN (Egypt)
ARABIC, SANAANI SPOKEN (Yemen)
ARABIC, SHIHHI SPOKEN (United Arab Emirates)
ARABIC, CHADIAN SPOKEN (Chad)
ARABIC, SOUTH LEVANTINE SPOKEN (Jordan)
ARABIC, STANDARD (Saudi Arabia)
ARABIC, SUDANESE SPOKEN (Sudan)
ARABIC, TA'IZZI-ADENI SPOKEN (Yemen)
ARABIC, TAJIKI SPOKEN (Tajikistan)
ARABIC, TUNISIAN SPOKEN (Tunisia)
ARABIC, UZBEKI SPOKEN (Uzbekistan)
ARABIC, LIBYAN SPOKEN (Libya)
HASSANIYYA (Mauritania)
MALTESE (Malta)
*No religion is the owner of any particular language. * However they declare a particular languages as their official language. It does not mean that its HARAM to communicate in that language in Islam.
In giving the origins of the name, the dictionary their literal meanings, where known. Many Old English names were formed as compounds from two words, which together often gave a satisfactory meaning. Wildfred, for example, combines words meaning “wil” and “peace” to give a sense “peacelover”.
There are Hadith which guides us how to give a name to a new born child. But those Hadith does not restrict us to use only Arabic or Persian languages for naming scheme.
Additionally; this is also an important point to consider that Prophet never ordered newly Muslims to change their names but in only one conditions that their names (or meanings) conflicts with teachings of Islam. Many people came from different regions for world. For example Salman (RA) from Iran. Fiza from Ethiopia. Jon. Etc.
Mr. ** The Rainmaker ** also mentioned an important point.
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baharna is a term used by the shiaas for bahrain to describe themselves....
and there is a huge difference in the vocabulary and the way of speaking between the sunnis and the shiaas....
ofcourse the bahraini dialect is completely different dialect from the 35 u mentioned above....
Aslam-o-Alakum
what huge difference in the vocabulary ?
Can you explain in a new thread
will be a good information for me, thanks
Wasalam
inuit
Exactly. Now you are on the right track. So get out of the Arabic-only thinking and focus on the meanings, whatever language it may be. Ofcourse, if you want an Arabic-only name... more power to you.
omg i never said arbic names i siad islamic names with good meaning which are mostly arabic ..... :) or persian
posted by inuit
No religion is the owner of any particular language. However they declare a particular languages as their official language. It does not mean that its HARAM to communicate in that language in Islam.
well nobody said that; holy prophet him slef encouraged sahaba to learn more languages
one Sahabi is known for have 100 slaves of different origions and he spoke to each of his laves in different language . i can find the exact details on request i read it osme where in my quran reference thing