No Punjabi please! We are Muslim Punjabis

Interesting topic, similar to what we were discussing a few days back…

No Punjabi please! We are Muslim Punjabis - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

We Punjabis don’t need the language bequeathed to us by our forefathers because we are Muslims and Pakistanis. In very simple words, this is the kind of logic we use to debunk the rationale of adopting our natural tongue as our official language. Our warped mind in the face of incessant ideological onslaught has turned the logic on its head by creating logicality of what is absolutely illogical. In a long process of mixing apples with oranges we have landed in a zone of twilight where we fail to know which is what. The illogicality of our Punjabi logic is thoroughly exposed the moment a sane mind scratches its surface.

Does our Islamic faith requires or urges us to forfeit our historically born linguistic identity? If so, how we explain the phenomenon of a large number of diverse communities with diverse linguistic identities which profess Islamic faith and are accepted as such. Before the advent of Islam the Arabs were pagans and their language was Arabic. After having embraced Islam they did not renounce their linguistic and cultural identities. On the contrary, both of these identities got catapulted to the stage of history with long ranging consequences. Their language and cultural roots are the assets they are proud of till date.

Same is case with Iranians who, after adopting Islamic faith, did not throw their language in the bin of history. They love their language today as much as they did before the seventh century.

The Holy Quran nowhere makes the speaking or learning of Arabic mandatory in order to enter into the fold if Islam. If that were the case, Islam would never have been a universal religion spread across the continents. In the Quran one comes across several verses which very clearly not only recognise the linguistic and cultural diversity but also point out their intrinsic and functional significance.

Confusion created by the faith inspired Punjabi Muslim ideologues is as much irrational as it is misleading. Those who with their blinkered vision make out Punjabi language as a threat to their Muslim faith because it is spoken and used by Sikhs, Hindus and Christians, conveniently forget that the Arabic is a shared language of the Muslims, Christians and Jews in the Middle East and North Africa. If ‘Arabic of Christians and Jews’ does not pollute the faith of the Arabic speaking Muslims how can ‘Punjabi of Sikhs, Hindus and Christians’ can contaminate the faith of Punjabi speaking Muslims who happen to be in majority? But we Punjabi Muslims, indoctrinated and brainwashed, have lost the capacity to pause and ponder.

Questioning the pious comfort zone created by false consciousness is a task conditioned minds find hard to undertake. That disowning one’s language in the name of Islam is an act against Islamic injunctions never occurs to us. So much for the Punjabi interpretation of our faith!

Our Muslim identity is almost one thousand years old while our Pakistani identity is still in its infancy in terms of historical time; it’s barely seven decades old. It needs to be nurtured and nourished with delicate care to ensure inclusive politico-economic future for all of us in a modern polity.

But again we Punjabis, with our convoluted logic, have turned our Pakistani identity into a monolith that weighs heavily on our diverse linguistic heritage making it crumpled and de-shaped. All this is done in an apparently well-meaning but misleading endeavour to achieve national cohesion through the imposition of a single national language in a highly diverse linguistic landscape shaped by a long historical process in the distinct regions which constitute the state of Pakistan.

In our politico-religious zeal to level things we deliberately ignore the fact that it were these very regions, diverse and distinct, that brought Pakistan into being through a free expression of their political will in 1947. The expression of such a will envisaged a Muslim majority state that would protect and promote their rights; religious, economic, political and cultural.

The core component of a culture is language that preserves its speakers’ past, articulates their present and projects its future in an imaginative construction. Denying the speakers their language means taking away their past, present and future from them. And this is what the reactionary forces tried to do to the most of the nationalities in Pakistan which has resulted in a political crisis that still lingers on. Punjabis in collaboration with Urdu speakers raised the slogan of ‘one nation one language’ which was politically dangerous and culturally untenable. Other nationalities resisted this ill-conceived move vociferously and refused to slaughter their languages and cultures at the altar of pseudo national unity. What is left of Pakistan if you eject the languages and cultures of Pashtuns, Sindhis, Balochis and Punjabis from it?

Pakistan faces catastrophic prospects of being reduced into a linguistic and cultural wasteland by Punjabis who foolishly postulate that our regional linguistic identity and Pakistani identity are mutually exclusive. Linguistic diversity is a fecund source of intellectual and cultural richness. By renouncing their highly expressive language Punjabis have not enriched Pakistan. They have, in fact, impoverished it. Only the brain dead can celebrate impoverishment as an achievement. —

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Muslim Punjabi or Punjabi Muslims?

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Writer says:

Language should not be shunned to prove patriotism or religiosity . Its neither required by patriotism nor by religion.

Do you agree?

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aik he bat ha,

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I see this disease esp in UK Pakistanis. Where they don the Arab dress and forget Shalwar Kameez, who are you kidding? You are not nor will you ever be an Arab. Where their entire vocab is now suddenly full of Arab words and our beautiful language is shunned aside. 'Habibi' 'Ahlan' 'Shukran' 'Yalla' wtf what happened to our Urdu words? I find this boot licking of Arabs and their culture everywhere sickening. We have a brilliant culture with brilliant traditions, be proud. Be proud of our culture, be proud of your Pakistani identity.

It irks me to a degree I can't explain.

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hahaha.

The height I see is people naming their children here in Pakistan as falaN Bin falaN. Thank God nicknames like Papu, Guddu, Rani are more popular here than Kuniiyat Abu FalaN or Umm e FalaN.

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i would like to think this as choice, they're whatever to wear what they want. they see something that they think is cool, ofcourse they would like to try it.
same can be pakistani people wearing chinos or girls wearing leggings or skirts and so on. I mean, just wear pant and us ke upar shirt and get it over with.

i may have gone slightly off topic.

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I dress arab, desi and western. I talk in Arabic , Urdu and English. Not at all boot licking :no: I just have a larger arab social circle than a desi social circle.
But even if someone chose to dress arab , why is it not ok ? People choose to dress western too. That seems ok.
PS: I didn’t read the other posts.

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Ofcourse its a choice esp the clothing. But suddenly as soon as anyone gets religious out goes the shalwar kameez and in comes the Arab dress. Same for the language, what happened to 'yar' or 'salam' or 'shukria', why must it all be Arabised. And I find it as cringing as Pakistanis in Pakistan acting all Westerny which makes a mockery of our culture ie the fake angreezi accent etc or ulti seedhi topiyaan to act black. We have a brilliant culture with vastly diverse traditions, I don't like how its being eroded. In places like UK if us desis living there won't hold onto something Pakistani then I don't think our future generations would either.

Also what I am saying is due to my own personal experiences I should add, I did not mean to generalise.

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I apologise LP if my post was offensive as I didn’t mean that. Ofcourse if someone lives in Saudi or any Arab country I’d think its natural they would mix in. I am talking about going the extra mile. Eg numerous people I know weren’t good Muslims, now they are and literally in a day their shalwar kameez at my mosque vanished to be replaced by everything Arab. Not only in the mosque but events like 14th August dinners etc. I just find that odd that’s all!

Also I think clothes like Jeans or shirts or pants are now universal and not only restricted to the West whereas the Arab clothes are restricted to mainly Arab countries.

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I think what Shak's trying to say is that in countries like the UK, all of a sudden abaya and qandoorah are >> plain ol' simple shalwar kameez. And the justification is that these clothes are a lot better than shalwar kameez, and somehow more "Islamic". There is no connection to your own culture and history anymore that way.

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In UK where its cold anyway most of the time how does a long coat not do the job like an abaya does? Even in Pakistan in places like Peshwar there was no abaya culture, now it thrives. Ofcourse in Arab states its expected as a part of the local culture and should be followed

Before anyone says anything my own family members wear the abaya and I have the same debate with them. But them being older I get told to shut up :hehe:

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I get what you both are trying to say. @Shak @Ess_Emm

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We are talking of locals adapting Arab Culture and language. While some phrases like ‘MashaAllah’, ‘InsAllah’, etc is alright, but shukran and mabrook is not done IMO.

Correct me if I’m wrong that foreigners are not allowed to wear Arabic dress in KSA. Further, Arabic dress like Jubba is suitable for desert. One should follow the environment i.e. weather etc while adapting a particular dress from particular culture.

The discussion here was adapting Urdu to prove patriotism or religiosity. One nation one language concept.

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Urdu version of tl:dr. I likey :hehe:

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Kuwwa kuwway jesi chal chaly.. hans banny ki koshish na karay… :cobra:

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Now you have lost me like EB does with the shero shairi :( @ehsan

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Like Pakistani people in western countries attend mosque while wearing abaya and toop… :hmmm:

What are most common practices you see around you?