As if you don't know???? What do you think is wrong??? Indian saying ISI was involved or Americans saying there is no proof????
Typical subterfuge - if you make a comment be prepared to substantiate it. Otherwise it just sounds like all the other hate filled drivel that comes from your side.
Manmohan met once with Pakistani PM and hindu extremists like you made a huge deal out of it as if the whole PAKISTAN had carried out an attack on India. If a party like BJP wasn't sitting in parliament, Manmohan would have felt much easier to start the peace process.
A little dose of history might be helpful for you.
It was PM Vajpayee (from BJP) who initiated the peace process with Nawaz Sharif in 1998 until Mushy decided to become Rambo and orchestrate the Kargil fiasco.
And it was Indira Gandhi (from Congress - the same party as Man Mohan & Sonia) who led the country in 1971 :)
‘Why this change all of a sudden???Why was Manmohan criticised for making joint statements about Balochistan??? Was there any pressure???? I am sure you believe that Indians are so peace loving that they took a step to have peace talks even though Pakistan is sending terrorists across the border.
I can understand your frustration with the moves made by both Indian and Pakistan on improving the relationship .... after all there is a group present in Pakistan (and perhaps you are from that group) which survives on this hostility towards India ...... it must be heart rendering for you to see the moves by Indian and Pakistani governments inspite of the terror attacks .... originating from the Pakisatani soil .... and acepted by Pakisatni government ... this goes to showthat they mean bussiness, after all a civilian government is answerable to people and people can guage the imporvement in their lives. This can only come if peace prevails ..... the only people who benfit from chaos and bloodshed are "dicatators" or people with the same mentality
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All of India thrives on terrorism domestically and internationally.
India has largest number of domestic terror groups:
Mumbai, Wednesday, June 24, 2009: The CPI (Maoist) swells the list of indigenous terror groups operating on our soil to 27, making India home to the largest number of domestic terrorist organisations in the world. On Monday, the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) named the CPI (Maoist) as 34th terrorist organisation under the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act; seven of these are transnational terror groups.
CPI (Maoist) joined ranks with Ulfa and SIMI and lesser known entities such as Hynniewtrep National Liberation Council of Meghalaya, Kanglei Yaol Kanba Lup of Manipur and Akhil Bharat Nepali Ekta Samaj, which though virtually unheard of are considered deadly enough by the government to be designated as terrorist organisations.
Of the seven transnational terror groups, only two —al-Qaida and LTTE — are truly global names. The other five are Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), Harkatul Mujahideen, Al Badr, Jamat-ul-Mujahid and Hizbul Mujahideen (HM) which are all Pakistan based terror outfits fighting Indian security forces in Kashmir.
“I am not surprised that we have so many local terror groups,” said Prakash Singh, former director-general of Border Security Force (BSF). “Since Independence we have seen the rise of a new terrorist movement in every decade, whether it be the Naxals, militants in Punjab, terrorists in the North East or in J&K. It is failure of governance that has led to this situation,” Singh said.
Going by number of organisations that other countries currently designate as terrorist, they too feel threatened by a number of groups. But none of them have as many home grown extremist groups as India does. The list runs into more than 40 in both US and Canada but includes only international names such as Hezbollah, Hamas, FARC, Ejercito de Liberacion Nacional, Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) etc — none of which operate directly on their soil.
Amongst developed countries, only UK has a significant number of terror groups breeding close to home in form of nine Irish militias such as the Ulster Freedom Fighters and the Irish Republican Army.
“India is a large country with such great diversity and so many grievances. This complexity leads to growth of radicals who survive on extremist ideology and terror. Developed countries have not had to deal with problems like ours that breed extremism,” said intelligence affairs expert B Raman.
India has largest number of domestic terror groups - India - NEWS - The Times of India
I can understand your frustration with the moves made by both Indian and Pakistan on improving the relationship .... after all there is a group present in Pakistan (and perhaps you are from that group) which survives on this hostility towards India ...... it must be heart rendering for you to see the moves by Indian and Pakistani governments inspite of the terror attacks .... originating from the Pakisatani soil .... and acepted by Pakisatni government ... this goes to showthat they mean bussiness, after all a civilian government is answerable to people and people can guage the imporvement in their lives. This can only come if peace prevails ..... the only people who benfit from chaos and bloodshed are "dicatators" or people with the same mentality
Hahahah....are we getting emotional here now?????
That proves my point again, you are acting as holy cow again and putting all the blame on others.
This is what your fishcurry brother said earlier
"Manmohan accepted in parliament he was nto given ay dossier but then question remains why like an idiot he added baluchistan in joint statement.. let us face it manmohan singh has brought harm to our case .. "
and this is what i said earlier
"Manmohan met once with Pakistani PM and hindu extremists like you made a huge deal out of it as if the whole PAKISTAN had carried out an attack on India. If a party like BJP wasn't sitting in parliament, Manmohan would have felt much easier to start the peace process."
It's easy to see who is feeling hurt after seeing peace peocess going ahead.
There could be a group somehwere in Pakistan which survives on hostility towards India but unfortunately the similar group is sitting Indian parliament which is one of the biggest reasons these two countries can't come together. :)
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even when the shootings were going on in hotels, Indian media and army were blaming Pakistan for the attacks. The game is clear and sinister. The Indian Intelligence had diverted the global attention towards another issue where they would blame Pakistan for this slaughter and use Barack Obama’s doctrine of attacks on Pakistan to encircle Pakistan from both sides. It is such a shame that Pakistani media was not highlighting this issue at that time
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Pakistan was one of the first countries to strongly condemn the terrorist attacks and offered all possible assistance. Pakistan itself is a victim of terrorism and considers it a menace to humanity which must be eliminated.When ever theres a bombing, fingers are always pointed at pakistan lol, dam indians are way too desperate for a war. if ever theres a Muslim involved "it was pakistan who did it", indians forgetting that there are Muslims living in india also, and the way the indians treat them, they could do anyhting for freedom. You guyz are really quick to point fingers.
US also said there is proof of Pak based terrorist organizations (LeT specifically), something which was initially denied by Pak. Some idiots are still denying that Kasab is Pakistani.
And since you are so keen on discussing this pls point out when India said that ISI was involved in 26/11 and when USA said that it was not. And pls quote official statements and not some media hypothesis.
And maybe then we could come back to discussing Balochistan...
Notice the orange thread / band on terrorists right hand.
Tying a red thread or cord around the wrist is a Hindu practice and it is unlikely a Muslim, especially one politicized enough to carry out an attack such as this, would observe it. I think this provides more evidence that this was a false flag operation or at least an attack by a non-Muslim group.
Additionally, the terrorists inside the Nariman House Building were reported to have stocked up on supplies on Wednesday evening, buying not just food items but liquor, among other things, from a local store. Again, it is highly unlikely that a Muslim, let alone a ‘Mujahid’, and especially one politicized enough to carry out such an attack, would consume liquor in normal life, let alone hours before his inevitable ‘martyrdom’.
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Anotherr proof that mumbai blasts were done by hindu nationalists:
Karkare head of investigation on malegaon blasts was being threatened by them before also and his death was necessary. By eliminating him they have ensured the sadhvi whoever and the army dude do not suffer for their horrific actions against muslims. Other than that some of the terrorists had rakhis on their hands.
Also this will justify Indian backlash against muslims and will help hindutva parties like the BJP and Shiv Sena win the election that is very close now. The muslims of India do not believe that the bombing was orchestrated by groups in Pakistan because they are smarter and they know this is from the same people who killed gandhiji and want to make India a hindutva state or sumthing...
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^ Your own country has accepted that Kasab is a Pakistani 
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Pakistan owns Ajmal Kasab | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online
ISLAMABAD - Pakistan on Wednesday confirmed that Ajmal Kasab, the lone surviving terrorist involved in Mumbai attacks, is its citizen but not before hours long confusion generated by conflicting statements of top government officials regarding his identity.
The Foreign Office Spokesman, Muhammad Sadiq revealed to the media Wednesday evening that Kasab was a Pakistani citizen, it had been established by the investigating agencies, which had given their report to the Foreign Ministry.
Before the final word by Foreign Office on the identity of Kasab, the State Minister for Interior, Tasnim Ahmed Qureshi told different news channels and representatives of newspapers that he could say with authority that Kasab was not Pakistani citizen and the Mumbai attack was a drama staged by the Indians themselves.
Even, Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir told the CNN-IBN that as of now he could only say that Pakistan’s investigation was continuing and it could not be confirmed that Kasab was a Pakistani.
All this controversy about Kasab’s identity started with the statement by National Security Advisor General (Retd) Mehmood Ali Durrani who said that investigations by Pakistan showed that the terrorist arrested alive by Indian police was a Pakistani.
He was approached to comment on the reports by some news channels that Kasab was a Pakistani citizen quoting unnamed Pakistani officials early in the morning.
However, State Minister for Interior and Foreign Secretary took no time to belie the statement by Durrani thus creating bewilderment and confusion.
The mystery deepens further with a short statement made by Information Minister Sherry Rehman who sent a text message to journalists in admission of Kasab’s identity as a Pakistani citizen
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^^^ That statement came out of confusion and investigation wasnt even completed, read the whole report with eyes opened.
as READ from above :
Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir told the CNN-IBN that as of now he could only say that Pakistan’s investigation was continuing and it could not be confirmed that Kasab was a Pakistani.
The State Minister for Interior, Tasnim Ahmed Qureshi told different news channels and representatives of newspapers that he could say with authority that Kasab was not Pakistani citizen and the Mumbai attack was a drama staged by the Indians themselves.
However, State Minister for Interior and Foreign Secretary took no time to believe the statement by by National Security Advisor General (Retd) Mehmood Ali Durrani thus creating bewilderment and confusion.
So, its a proof that Kasab isnt pakistani as investigations arent completed.
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"Please give us evidence that we have not yet provided the evidence.", President Zardari :P
^^^ That statement came out of confusion and investigation wasnt even completed, read the whole report with eyes opened.
as READ from above :
Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir told the CNN-IBN that as of now he could only say that Pakistan’s investigation was continuing and it could not be confirmed that Kasab was a Pakistani.
The State Minister for Interior, Tasnim Ahmed Qureshi told different news channels and representatives of newspapers that he could say with authority that Kasab was not Pakistani citizen and the Mumbai attack was a drama staged by the Indians themselves.
However, State Minister for Interior and Foreign Secretary took no time to believe the statement by by National Security Advisor General (Retd) Mehmood Ali Durrani thus creating bewilderment and confusion.
So, its a proof that Kasab isnt pakistani as investigations arent completed.
Selective reading again ??
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The Foreign Office Spokesman, Muhammad Sadiq revealed to the media Wednesday evening that Kasab was a Pakistani citizen, *it had been established by the investigating agencies, which had given their report to the Foreign Ministry.
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^^Selective reading by habit??
Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir told the CNN-IBN that as of now he could only say that Pakistan’s investigation was continuing and it could not be confirmed that Kasab was a Pakistani.
The State Minister for Interior, Tasnim Ahmed Qureshi told different news channels and representatives of newspapers that he could say with authority that Kasab was not Pakistani citizen and the Mumbai attack was a drama staged by the Indians themselves.
However, State Minister for Interior and Foreign Secretary took no time to believe the statement by by National Security Advisor General (Retd) Mehmood Ali Durrani thus creating bewilderment and confusion.
^^Selective reading by habit??
Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir told the CNN-IBN that as of now he could only say that Pakistan’s investigation was continuing and it could not be confirmed that Kasab was a Pakistani. .
You seem to have just come out of hibernation ..... yawn .... you are still "debating" the news of Jan. 2009 .... when you are upto date on your "proof" ... we will talk about it
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^^ then y r u yawning if i was hibernating?
keep sleeping, y debate half heartedly.
^^ then y r u yawning if i was hibernating?
keep sleeping, y debate half heartedly.
To debate you have to have knowledge .... that is why i said get upto date on what is happening and then we will talk ......
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if u plan to miss facts and remain ignorant,thats not problem really.
if u plan to miss facts and remain ignorant,thats not problem really.
So .... did you get to read about Pakistani government "claim" that 10 men from Karachi boarded a "rubber dingy" and went to Mumbai .... they also have the number of the engine used in the "rubber dingy" ... have to reached that far or you are still stuck in Jan 2009 :D
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No,i just wondered when RAW made up that story, why did they make Indian navy look so shabby and unprofessional,unable to defend own waters !