No Pakistani among all-time greats

Asif_k · August 30, 2002, 3:44pm

KARACHI, Aug 29: The renowned Pakistani cricketers who excelled with their superiority over the years in international level matches have been ‘ignored’ by Wisden in its latest bookThe Best which includes 40 leading players in the world.

Surprisingly, no Pakistani player is in list of “All-time greats” and “The Almost-greats”. However, star batsman Inzamam-ul-Haq finds place in “The Merely Excellent” category, alongwith Graham Thorpe, Chris Cairns, Anil Kumble, Darren Gough, Damien Martyn and Ricky Ponting.

Other star performers Waqar Younis, Wasim Akrum, Saeed Anwar are in the list of “The Elder Statesman” alongside Allan Donald, Alec Stewart, Gary Kirsten and Mark Waugh.

Saqlain Mushtaf is included in “The One-day Specialists” with Michael Bevan, Jonty Rhodes, Lance Klusener, and Sanath Jayasuriya.

Other prolific players Abdul Razzaq, Yousuf Youhana and Shoaib Akhtar have not been recognised by Wisden - The Best.

Others in all time greats are Steve Waugh, Sachin Tendulkar, Brian Lara, Muttiah Muralitharan, Shaun Pollock, Glenn McGrath and Shane Warne.

In the almost-great category are; Adam Gilchirst, Jacques Kallis, Rahul Dravid and Andy Flower.-PPI

http://www.dawn.com/2002/08/30/spt2.htm

andha_qanoon · August 30, 2002, 4:05pm

I think this is about current players.
If they are talking about current players then Wasim atleast should be there.

If past one then atleast Javed and Imran should be there.

If they are talking about Current IN-FORM players then they might be right.

s_H_e_I_k_H · August 30, 2002, 4:22pm

If it is about current players then Waugh shouldn't be there. It says all time greats.
If it is all time greats then i think whoever compiled it hasn't seen crikcet before. To leave out Imran, Wasim, Waqar and Javed. There must be something wrong.
Do you have the actual list?

Xpress · August 30, 2002, 4:31pm

Wisden is just another media made joke!

armughal · August 31, 2002, 2:28am

who cares....
un ke kehne se koyee player to nahin ban jata na....

fantastic1 · August 31, 2002, 2:47am

** Steve Waugh, Sachin Tendulkar, Brian Lara, Muttiah Muralitharan, Shaun Pollock, Glenn McGrath and Shane Warne. **

Its amazing how Mcgrath and Pollock are iin the list but not the best left-armer ever

Pur sanoun ki

dewana_tera · August 31, 2002, 4:37am

just biased goras that's all.

samb · August 31, 2002, 12:21pm

Re: No Pakistani among all-time greats

*Originally posted by Asif_k: *
No Pakistani among all-time greats

KARACHI, Aug 29: The renowned Pakistani cricketers who excelled with their superiority over the years in international level matches have been ‘ignored’ by Wisden in its latest bookThe Best which includes 40 leading players in the world.

Surprisingly, no Pakistani player is in list of “All-time greats” and “The Almost-greats”. However, star batsman Inzamam-ul-Haq finds place in “The Merely Excellent” category, alongwith Graham Thorpe, Chris Cairns, Anil Kumble, Darren Gough, Damien Martyn and Ricky Ponting.

Other star performers Waqar Younis, Wasim Akrum, Saeed Anwar are in the list of “The Elder Statesman” alongside Allan Donald, Alec Stewart, Gary Kirsten and Mark Waugh.

Saqlain Mushtaf is included in “The One-day Specialists” with Michael Bevan, Jonty Rhodes, Lance Klusener, and Sanath Jayasuriya.

Other prolific players Abdul Razzaq, Yousuf Youhana and Shoaib Akhtar have not been recognised by Wisden - The Best.

Others in all time greats are Steve Waugh, Sachin Tendulkar, Brian Lara, Muttiah Muralitharan, Shaun Pollock, Glenn McGrath and Shane Warne.

In the almost-great category are; Adam Gilchirst, Jacques Kallis, Rahul Dravid and Andy Flower.-PPI

http://www.dawn.com/2002/08/30/spt2.htm

It is absolutely beyond me how Kallis and Dravid can be almost-great whereas Inzi lurks in only the excellent catregory.

Pollock, McGrath and Waugh make it ahead of Imran, Waqar, Wasim and Miandad???

This is ****ing stupid. Whoever came up with these awards deserved to be hung by his balls in the nearest chowk. Idiot! What a piece of ****e ICC and Wisden is.

ammarr · August 31, 2002, 1:00pm

You know something. We should complain against this load of bull crap. A reasonging/rating system/whatever should be demaned of the judges to see what criteria was used.

Pakistani_Tiger · August 31, 2002, 1:16pm

Pakistani_Tiger · August 31, 2002, 1:30pm

:kaboom: Inzi Is The Best :kaboom:

dewana_tera · August 31, 2002, 2:18pm

kya jhoot kaha mayn nay??

Pakistani_Tiger · August 31, 2002, 2:38pm

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*Originally posted by dewana tera: *

kya jhoot kaha mayn nay??
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Nahin Yaar :D

Nakhrey_Wali · September 4, 2002, 1:36am

Ehsan uncle plese move this post to jokes forum or how about starting a new sub forum “sports jokes”

Moonstar201 · September 4, 2002, 2:40am

Cud any one post the complte list

BAYWAQOOF · September 4, 2002, 12:27pm

No Imran , No Javed, No Wasim, No Waqar, No Inzamam, No Saeed, No Salim Malik, No nothing and wisden is compiling All Times Greats
wisden lacking wisdom

Question · September 4, 2002, 12:36pm

Re: Re: No Pakistani among all-time greats

Lets nuke wisden web site

Asif_k · September 4, 2002, 12:39pm

BW ji is it the same Wisden you were praising so much after they didn’t include any of Sachin’s Innings in TOP 100 ??

Apni baari aayee to It lacks WISDOM ??

UMAIR316 · September 4, 2002, 7:15pm

Speaking of Wisden, I'm still shocked to see Azhar Mahmood's century against South Africa is ranked no 7 in the list of all time great individual performance.
Along with VVS Laxmans 281 and Lara's 153.
Those innings were the match winning performance but where did Azhar Mahmood come from.
I will pay anybody anything to see that match.

I don't think they are biased since they have bunch of Indians and Srilankans in the list.

They are just plain dumb.

andha_qanoon · September 4, 2002, 7:38pm

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*Originally posted by UMAIR316: *
Speaking of Wisden, I'm still shocked to see Azhar Mahmood's century against South Africa is ranked no 7 in the list of all time great individual performance.
Along with VVS Laxmans 281 and Lara's 153.
Those innings were the match winning performance but where did Azhar Mahmood come from.
I will pay anybody anything to see that match.

I don't think they are biased since they have bunch of Indians and Srilankans in the list.

They are just plain dumb.
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And who are those Indian and Sri Lankans????
Phir hawa me baat karne lage?any proof?