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If he did wait for you and open the door for you, he would have been a chichora... right?
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^ not at all. I would have thanked him, and that would have been the end of it. It's not that I cant open the door for myself, but its common courtesy to hold the door for the person behind you. Just cause someone holds the door for me, I dont think they are trying anything with me!
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No, not the end of it. He would have said, “you are welcome dear”.
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^ lol
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Must be a few folks here and there but lemme tell you, when I was a student, [many many manyyyyy years ago] what I observed was that Pakistani guys were way more polite and well mannered then other foreign stidents at the univ. Trust me on this judgement because I am not a Pakistani so I am not biased.
well i'm not pakistani either and i have to agree here. i don't think i've come across a rude pakistani guy ever. at my uni there were pak american guys and even they never spoke rudely or did anything that wasn't respectful towards a woman. maybe i just haven't come in contact with the "slam the door in a woman's face" type of pak man, i'm talkin nonvirtual experiences here
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These Pakistani girls have no respect for their men 
Bhery bhad :no:
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Pakistani men are supposed to keep their gaze lower in presence of Pakistani women and have to keep their distance otherwise they might get beaten up by husbands , fathers or brothers of those girls/women that is why they try to be safe than sorry.
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Today when I got to work, I was walking towards the entrance just about 5 steps behind a Pakistani guy who also works here. When he got to the door, he opened it enough just for himself, and let it slam in my face! He totally saw me walking behind him! When white guys see me walking towards the door, even if I am still a distance away, they wait and hold the door.
Why do Pakistani men have no manners, or treat women as second class citizens??????
Just because this one guy didn't hold the door for you, lets not blame all Pakistani guys.
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Next time you see him… walk quickly past him (actually run), open the door, wait for him to get close and let the door shut in his face 
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some good reads here ^
mirch summoned it up quite correctly !
Not only it is an inner reaction but also based on some experiences (I’m sure) Pakistani Girls and Aunties can not be trusted as the reactions would vary from bad to worse.
Pakistan kay ley bilkul theek hai. Otherwise , kiya merna hai derwaaza khol kay ? 
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BEST RESPONSE BY FAR!!!
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^ He might be saying the same thing right this minute.
“Next time I’l hold open the door for her, and if she says ‘thank you’ means she’s not interested, and if she says noth’in then she expects me to say some’thin to break ice” Naaah baba,go to hell,she might break my head instead"
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A pakistani man’s definition of “Chivalry” is different than a western man’s. I notice too, that they don’t open doors, they don’t take you to dinner, they wont offer to hold an umbrella over your head, or anything else you see in the movies. Their definition of chivalry is more like - well, i paid your bills, so now make me my dinner, please, and then let’s have sex and go to bed.
I’m sure there are nice Pakistani guys out there, but holding doors open for ladies, letting ladies into a buffet line first, allowing ladies to be served dinner first, etc - all nonexistent with Pakistani men. They’ll do it with the women in their family, but they wont show the same courtesy to other women, and I think that THEY THINK this qualifies as giving more respect to the women of their own household. BS. You’re supposed to respect everyone.
Sorry. Dunno what to tell you. Next time as the guy point blank if he has any manners and if his mother ever taught him to hold the door open for anyone.
I think when we desis raise our boys, we give them this sense of entitlement - the world owes you beta for being born with a **** and you don’t owe anyone jack.
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A pakistani man's definition of "Chivalry" is different than a western man's. I notice too, that they don't open doors, they don't take you to dinner, they wont offer to hold an umbrella over your head, or anything else you see in the movies. Their definition of chivalry is more like - well, i paid your bills, so now make me my dinner, please, and then let's have sex and go to bed.
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:( rasam frashm stupid coffee rachsma fashma
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I am not sure what kind of men you guys socialize with. I have never seen this sort of behavior @ our home nor among the Pakistani Community my parents socialize. I think my father and my brothers spoil me more then my mom. All the pakistani men I have met are have always been respectful towards women which includes holding doors offering chairs, serving food, etc.
Maybe you girls should stop giving them attitude and act normal when they are around.
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I am not sure what kind of men you guys socialize with. I have never seen this sort of behavior @ our home nor among the Pakistani Community my parents socialize. I think my father and my brothers spoil me more then my mom. All the pakistani men I have met are have always been respectful towards women which includes holding doors offering chairs, serving food, etc.
Maybe you girls should stop giving them attitude and act normal when they are around.
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Good fun. You women want rights of a desi woman (being respected by family) AND rights of a western woman (being 'respected' outside home by strangers) but do no want to accept the responsibilities that come with either.
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***I don’t think Pakistani men lack chivalry…at least none that I’ve come across at least…
I’ve found them to be very courteous , ALWAYS had them open doors , allow me to get ahead in queue’s at airports etc. even offer to get my luggage and carry my bags for me . What more can a Girl ask for ???
We can’t generalize …in fact sometimes I do think Men react to a situation depending on what they gauge the Woman’s reaction would be…I remember I was travelling with a friend on the tube from the airport and had 2 heavy suitcases each and had to make several stops and changes…so it was difficult lugging the suitcases around and everytime we would stop and get off , I’d somehow find someone offer to carry the bags for me , up n down stairs etc but my friend kept having to lug hers…finally she realized what she was doing wrong ! …
Guys like their acts of chivalry to be noticed and acknowledged…so giving them the "this is my God given right snooty act is a surefire way of repelling any chivalrous acts "…it doesn’t hurt to smile Girls ! 
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May be it’s not them, it’s your stunning beauty.
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All this happens to pretty girls/women only I guess and only when they are not afraid of any retaliation from the girl/woman or her relatives.