Nikkah is MARRIAGE

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Nikkah is MARRIAGE. Get it straight, peeps.

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:D hehe

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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS...there is NO such thing as mangetar :)

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Second that.

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No Sahar no. Yeh kya ghazab ki baat keri tumney, lahol wala quwaata. Taubah :nahi:

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Yes there is. Mangetar might not have any special "privileges" according to some people, but it does not mean that the term and definition does not exist.

The problem with the above attitude is that people start treating the nikkah as an engagement period, and it is not one. It is not to be taken lightly. It is marriage -- not a test run.

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i do NOT agree with you and i am sorry...there is NO provision of having a Mangetar in Islam. PERIOD! u may NOT have to agree with me but as far as Islam is concerned a woman is naa maHram to a man until nikaah is done after that there must be NO restrictions as to when, how and where the couples can meet each other...it's Indo Pakistani Tradition [nothing to do with Islam] that a boy and girl [as mangetars] go about dating while those have been nikaahofied are kept apart from each other.

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As far as I know, engagement is only a promis of marriage to a man and woman. Yes, they're still non-mahram. However, they can discuss their future, marriage, etc. under supervision.

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KKF: I didn't say that "engagement" was an Islamically sanctioned state. And I specifically said that it DOES NOT give you any special privileges. Please read carefully. I am just saying that engagement exists. It does not mean that religiously you have any rights more than single people have. I am just saying that the state of being intended to marry someone exists. It is a promise.

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No, marriage *is *the situation two years after nikah.

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Really?

Isn't it a redundant statement?

Nikaah is arabic, of what marriage is in English word for same thing. :)

It's like

Neela is Blue. Get it straight, peeps.

P.S. You did not have to start a whole thread on what white light said. (I like writing like that.)

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I am not sure what you are trying to prove here. All she is saying that people who take nikkah lightly as a way to date and pretend it is an engagement, should not do so. Nikkah is a full fledge marriage and should be taken as marriage and not engagement.

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Thank you. I hate Pakistanis when it comes to marriage. It pisses me off.

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Yes. But who really does that and how many?

I think if anythng people take engagement more seriously at times when it is not supposed to be. But those who get nikahfied, do know there is a condition now attached with legal paper involved with witnesses.

Besides, the statement should have been:

Nikaah is a serious business than just engagement.

But to say Nikaah is marriage is a redundant statement.

I also outlined in terms of people considering breaking any relation, at least five different stages one can identify. (In another thread from where this idea came from)

Nikah without rukhsati and nikah with rukhsati have different levels.

Both ARE Nikaah. Both ARE marriage in English.

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We get what she means so it's all ok then.. You don't need to make things more complicated than they seem.

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Yeah Nikah is like you have got a driving licence but you don't own the car yet :p

Yes Nikah is very much marriage but in our society, it is usually not considered marriage. Like after nikah, the husband should be paying wife's expenses but I have not seen any instances like that. Although the husband and wife start meeting and talking more freely, when it comes to meeting your wife's expenses, I have not heard any instances (although there is exchange of gifts, but there should be regular monthly expenses paid by the husband).

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After nikah, wife's responsibility in on the husband, according to Islam.

But, well, each situation is different.

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Then why don't people have rukhsati after Nikah!? What's the point in delaying rukhsati!?

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I am no scholar nor do I know whether my own 'opinions' our true facts.. so the warning comes in advance : don't take my word for it - and as far as my opinion is concerned - some may agree some may disagree. thats up to them..

In recent time, the trend has become to get your nikkah done and rukhsati happens after 2 - 4 or more or less yrs.. That period when the couple have had their Nikkah but not 'rukhsati' they go out, date pretty much do everything as a couple, but their rukhsati hasn't happened. Some find this okay, others have their doubt. My only concern is that the form/event/act of 'rukhsati' is just cultural and not religious right? So when a guy has taken the girl under his nikkah and their islamically marriage why not do the full lot and be married married then and there. I assume, the responsbilites of a man and woman as husband and wife commence straight after youve had your nikkah done? Then why this break of 2 - 4 yrs? Because your not settled or your still studying? In that case, why don't you wait out that period, then get married? Because you can't date then? If that's the case, then why is Nikkah these days used as a liscence to date in the modern world?

I don't know its an interesting concept, people would have their own views and opnions and their entitled to it.. so no offence to anyone :)

Secondly, I am no scholar or anything lol, but is there a limit to how long a Nikkah remains when the husband and wife are 'separated' before it can be nullified? I mean isn't that whats happeneing, boy & girl have nikkah but their live in thier own house and not together? What's the difference between that situation and a separated one? only that verbally you guys are still talking etc?

It's all pretty interesting, in recent years, the trend for this to happen can be seen..

One more point it makes sense when you need to get the nikkah done earlier if boy or girl live in different countries for visas etc.. but yeah just my 2 cents withing every1 elses opnion.. like i

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Thats what I don't understand. Doing nikah and rukhsati separate is ok when visa needs to be applied etc. But as in Cinammonroll case, where we are suggesting her to get nikahfied, what will be the difference as compared to being nikahfied and getting completely married (with rukhsati)? The guy will have the responsibility of her wife even after the nikah and he will need to meet her expenses which he is not currently willing to do, and thats why delaying the formal commitment. Its just that they won't be living together until rukhsati is done.