What’s the difference? Or what SHOULD BE the difference?
In both cases, the girl doesn’t come in the house. Then why do some people prefer Nikah over engagement? 
If the point is that with Nikah, they can go out and all that, people do that while they are engaged. I mean seriously, what’s the difference
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Mangni can be broken over the phone, nikkah would involve some legal proceedings at the very least.
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i think with nikah people feel like the other party cannot break it.
with engagement there is a commitment but its not "set in stone"
i think that people should just get an "engagement", the one w/o any big party (ie huge hall w/ everyone dressed up like its a shaadi). in islaam, it is allowed for the guy who would like to marry the girl to accompany her on her trips out ** IF ** she is with her mahiram.
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oh i would like to add, that i think that the engaged couple should still try & not to talk too much. I have found (with the experience of friends) that its much better if they dont talk until after the shaadi.
thats just my opinion though
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After nikah, they are mehram. Engagement doesn't mean anything. EOS.
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^ thank God someone mentioned that! I knew ppl would come out with every other explaination other than the fact that nikkah is the only thing that makes a relationship halal. Dont know why something so simple is so hard to understand 
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Achaa jee? I also eat non-zabiha times.
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^ i guess u can have a non-halal relationship then
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Ive only had a nikah, no rukhsati. Its proper marriage but desi's are usually really into rukhsati to the point that many dont even understand that nikah makes the marriage proper..
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You can have legal sex after nikah.
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This discussion reminds me of a story I heard many years ago, and found it pretty amusing at that time.
This was told to me back in the early 90's by a co-worker about this person who had his nikkah done and the rukhsati was planned the following year. This was in Lahore. The guy was very shareef and decent, sharmila-type banda. Unfortunately he had some very shareer friends. So the friends took it upon themselves to explain to him that nikkah is, infact, the only sharayee requirement, and the girl is now his wife in every possible way. Plus they fed him many unusual ideas. So our hero, went to the girl's place one day. Her parents were not there and only the younger brother was there. He managed to lose him by sending him on an errand to get coke from the market. I don't know how he convinced the girl about the whole thing, but long story short, the girl became pregnant.
Now the guy was, like totally distraught. He somehow convinced his parents to have the rukhsati done right away. Pulled some excuses that he is about to be transferred to a far-off place etc. Anyway, so they finally had the rukhsati. Six months after the rukhsati, the girl gave birth to the baby. The folks did try to suggest that the baby is premature, but anyone who saw the baby could tell that she was full-term. The couple was so embarassed that the guy actually resigned from his company and moved to a different city.
Not sure what the Islamic ruling would be, but this was sure as heck not a wise move in Pakistan.
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He got her pregnant while the brother went for a coke?. He sure was a minute-man.
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Yeah, funguy, the market was quite far, and the bicycle was punctured. The poor lad had to walk all the way.
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Now that is a funny story..I’m sure the guy had his coke on his way out. It would make an excellent coke commerical if you think about it 
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Nikkah is originally the marriage well if the couple wants they can start living officially as neither does shariah or law stop them from doing that but in our "culture" there has to be an extravagant wedding or should i say rukhsati so u know.......
as far as engagement is just like booking in other words engagement is like bookin a seat on an airline and nikkah is confirming as in the ticket is not in ur hand but u have paid for it already ;)
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Nikah allows you ISLAMICALLY to go out in public. And engagement you are not Islamically allowed to hang out unless you have a third person with you. And in Nikah your allowed to talk about anything, but not in engagement.
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lol Faisal Bhai was this a relative of yours
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No cat-woman.. my relatives are "usually" fairly level headed. :)
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I use to hang out with my hubby when i was engaged with him his parents was ok with it.
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ok this whole only nikah business is only what i like to term ISLAMIC DATING.
granted this rukhsati thing is not in islaam, but neither is stopping the couple from being "married" bec the rukhsati hasnt been done.
like i said before, the committed guy & committed girl are permitted to speak or go out together as long as there is a mehram present.
besides what is the need to talk & do all sorts of things unless you are married. thats those whole beauty of the relationship. Y cant people just wait till they are married?