Nikah on phone?

Ok this is a serious question guys…so please!

I have known a guy for 5 years now. We want to get married but the problem is I am in the usa and he is in Saudi Arab. He can’t go to pakistan right now because of some saudi laws n ikama stuff. I can’t go to Saudi because only relatives can sponsor people, can’t go for umra because I dont have a mehram with me.
Okay so we decided that we should get nikah-fied over the phone. But I have no clue how to go about this or wheather it will help us with the paper work or not? Like if I want to sponsor him to USA and stuff.
Can any of you shed some light on this?
Thanks! :slight_smile:

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Hope it help…

Q & A: Nikah on Telephone

Have you seen this guy in actual, just out of interest?

oh boy!

seems everything is working against you - but you still have your mind set on this guy.

What makes you think once you are nikahfied - it will be an easier process for you or him to get together.

(Please note: By no means I am inputting anything negative in your head - I am happy for you and you must do what you feel is right... and you can ignore my question above if you wish too) :)

you both can meet up in dubai lets say and have the nikkah done ... from saudi , the ikama holders dont need a visa to come to dubai , and its just a few hours drive to dubai , even closer if you come to Abudhabi .... he may not even need an exit stamp .. but please do cnfirm that .. I have cousins in saudi all on work permits and they keep coming to visit us in dubai over the weekend !

you being an american passport holder will get dubai visa easily i think ...

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Thanks for the input guys! Highly appreciated!
I am more interested in finding more about nikah on the phone. I don't know if it will help with the paper work and if we have to sign something and will USA embassy accept it if I want to sponsor him as a husband..etc? If anyone can provide me with more info on this...it will be a great help!
I just want to get started with paper work and all...We will have Wedding ceremony when we are together. And yes we know each other and our parents know each other so no villans or masla on that side.
Firenze - Thanks but I have heard so many ppl got nikahfied on the phone. Wese bhi we will re-do it once together.
CB - thats a good idea too...I will discuss it with him. Thanks.

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“Nikah over the telephone is not permissible because both the boy and girl are in different places and the witnesses need to be present at the actual place of the Nikah.”

Q & A: Nikah on Telephone

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a few phone nikkahs in my in laws, dont see what the big deal is, especially if the families are oaky with it.

Nikkah's on the phone... is all good!

saves you trip money!:D

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^
rotfl

you can buy a hot suit with that money.. probably buy couple of nice dresses.

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I think the reason why some scholars (and embassies!) are wary of nikkahs done over the telephone is that there was no guarantee that the people on the phone were the bride and groom.

exactly , thats the reason its nor permissable in Islam because there is too much room left for fraud...

Therefore its important for not just the bride and the groom but also the witnesses to be present in the same place to eliminate any fears of fraud.

yes its not permissible in Islam!

:)

It's possible for a woman to go on umrah/hajj without mehram if she goes with a group of other females.

Regarding nikah on phone agree with the others who've said it isn't allowed. Good Luck tho in trying to work something out, where there's a will, there's a way :)

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No such thing as nikah on phone. Nikah by proxy *is *permissible in Islam.
Make sure you check whether that procedure is accepted for sponsorship in US, it is valid for sponsoring in Canada.

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I think that she isn't talking about doing the Nikkah for religious reasons, but more fore legal ones, i.e. to get him into the U.S. as her husband.

I'm assuming that if the "nikah over the phone" thing allows her to get her fiance to the U.S. they're planning on having an actually, islamically recognized nikkah then.

Is my assumption correct Gone?

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You can't have a nikah twice! As far as I remember, it is not recognized for sponsorship purposes in US. Unless she gets a response from someone here who has gone through similar situation, she would have to check in with the citizenship authorities for that.

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Yeah, please stay away from this nikah over the phone business. Nikaah is such a beautiful thing, you want to enjoy your blessed time and feel at peace and not hover around the phone like... you know.

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a friend of mine just got his nikah done over the WEBCAM...yes u read it right...webcam. the girl was in pakistan and my friend, the guy in the US. He gave a family member permission to sign for him and had ppl over at the masjid and everything...i wasn't able to go but did watch the video of it...very interesting process.

^ and that what i thought... that it is not recognized for sponsorship here in the US but guess what...it is, again my friend had already hired a lawyer who was also present at the nikah (also a friend)

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As a personal opinion, Nikkah should not be allowed on Phone, what's next .. Talaaq on SMS/Email ? ..

Lets have some boundaries!