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jus wanted to ask when gettin a nikkah done, are the guys side suppose to bring iman?
we have already organised a iman from the local mosque but the guys side are not happy and wanted to bring there own, but my families not happy with this
any advice in what we should do?
thnks
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At my all my khala's wedding we had our own local mosque imam and ive seen this here with many of the girls that got married...im not sure wot the custom....
thats jst personal experience mayb someone else can shed some light on this topic :)
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**you don't have to have an imaam for solemnizing the marriage. any muslim who has the knowledge and the license can do it. in the west, its usuallly imaam coz he has the icense to solemnize marriages and he has the prescribed forms.
as long as u have an imaam its fine...doesn't matter who brought him...it must be pre arranged between the families :)
as far as the custom goes, in India the bridegrom's parents bring the qaazii [the one who is authorized to solemnize marriages]
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First of all congrats on your forthcoming nikkah!!
well usually since the nikkah is either at the girls house or arranged at a venue by the girls side, the imam should also be arranged by the girls side, but if the boys side want to bring their own let them ( they can pay him ).
First ask why they want to bring their own and explain that in your family the girls side arrange for the imam, they should back down, but if they dont, do not let this small thing become a big issue and try not to dwell on it much, and try to enjoy the excitment leading upto the day. :)
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^ i thought it was the opposite...i.e. that in Pakistan, they specifically use an imam because he is government sanctioned to perform the marriage ceremony thus your marriage is recognized legally and Islamically at the same time, whereas in the West, we have to go to the court in addition to the Islamic ceremony. I dont think I've ever seen a non-imam performing the marriage ceremony in Pakistan but its more common in the West.
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^^ agree....i thought the imam had to conduct the nikkah...and yes there must be a registery in the west so that ur a recognised couple.....
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i've seen tonnes of marriages in india [both in urban and village settings] where an ordinary person solemnized the marriage coz he was knowledgeable and had necessary documentation...imaam is NOT even the right word...it used to be called the Qaazii. :)
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hey thanks for all the advice will jus have to discuss it and cme to sme arrangements , but we stay in glasgow they stay in london which is nearly 400 miles difference and they want to bring a Iman from there,
jus that in scotland u do the nikah and registration in one that why we wanted to get it done by our local Iman but just have to see what happens
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i’ve seen both. in some families the brides side arrange it, in other’s it’s the grooms.
also, i’d like to add that you don’t have to have a registry office wedding for your nikkah to be recognised in the UK. it depends where and how you have it.
In many cases, mosques or halls are registered places and some Imams are authorised to register the marriage, if not you can get the attendance of a registrar to authorise it.
Easier for some cases, more complicated for others.
“In all other religions, religious marriage ceremonies can take place but the couple must first give notice to the Superintendent Registrar, or Registrar in Northern Ireland, at the local Register Office. The Superintendent Registrar, or Registrar in Northern Ireland, will know whether the building in which the ceremony is to take place has been registered. If the building has not been registered, the couple can still have a religious ceremony, but will also need to have a separate civil ceremony for the marriage to be valid under United Kingdom Law.
If the building is registered, an authorised person must be present at the ceremony to register the marriage. They will give the couple a marriage certificate on receipt of the fee. If there is no authorised person, the attendance of a Registrar is necessary and this should be arranged with the Superintendent or Registrar in Northern Ireland of the district.”
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i thought imam was the arabic word and qazi was the urdu word?...since we're not in india and pakistan its trusted upon someone from the local masjid to perform the nikah..its no big deal as long as its done accoring to sunnah.... :)
in ireland ive seen both nikkah and registry....i dunno abt the uk!
i've seen tonnes of marriages in india [both in urban and village settings] where an ordinary person solemnized the marriage coz he was knowledgeable and had necessary documentation...imaam is NOT even the right word...it used to be called the Qaazii. :)
i'm not saying you're wrong, you're absolutely right, you dont have to be an imam to conduct the marriage ceremony but people ask an imam (and I mean an imam, not a qazi) to do it because the marriage will be legally recognized then as well as religiously.
i thought imam was the arabic word and qazi was the urdu word?...since we're not in india and pakistan its trusted upon someone from the local masjid to perform the nikah..its no big deal as long as its done accoring to sunnah.... :)
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they are both arabic words. urdu is 50% farsi, 40% arabic and 10% rest of the world's languages.
yes i do know. i mentioned that in my first post. in the west its done differently. i lived half my life in india and half in the west so what i said was based on experiences. thank you and mubaarak ho shaadii aapko. :)**
hey thanks for all the advice will jus have to discuss it and cme to sme arrangements , but we stay in glasgow they stay in london which is nearly 400 miles difference and they want to bring a Iman from there,
jus that in scotland u do the nikah and registration in one that why we wanted to get it done by our local Iman but just have to see what happens
honey.. its Imaa*M*
honey.. its Imaa*M*
sorry my mistake i was unsure of hw to spell it
thanks for letting me knw x
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haha ok ive been mixin imam and qazi up 
and i jst said wot ive observed here as the norm im not arguing that ur wrong or nething so chill out mate!..
haha wots the mubarak for? im not getting married yet…
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i wasn’t arguing..i was just saying what i knew 
its ok…lots of people do that…some times with Hindi even…some words come from french even…like, annannaas [pineapple] patloon [pantalone’] paasii for posse’, roTi etc
i congratulated u coz i dunno if i’ll be talking to u coz i don’t see u on the forum often. its good to say good things coz u never know we’ll have another day to see…well****, have a nice wedding and be happy in ur life…always! aameen**
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qazi is not arabic, qadhi is arabic...we don't say it correctly in Urdu. imam is the person who leads the congregation, qadhi is a judge.
**Qaazii = Qaadhii = qaaZii in roman urdu…urdu is a mix of so many different languages but the base is Hindi [sanskrit] so, we pronounce words in a way that blends in with Hindustani zabaan. if we pronounce arabi words like arabs do, farsii words like iranians, turkish words like turkish people then its gonna sound so funny and besides, we as indo/pakistani can NOT pronounce the words like the native people do. so we have our own accent.
ji…i know…correct transliteration is QaaZii [qaaf alif Zuad, ye] like Ramadhaan [re , meem, Zuaad, alif, noon]…if u wish u could read my post…
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^what you're talking about is not an accent. if you say "z" instead of "dh," you're saying a completely different word thus you could be saying donkey in arabic instead of judge and to me, thats scary when it comes to reading Quran. its more correct to say qazi is an urdu word if we are changing the sounds completely...if we can pronounce english words with the right sounds (i.e. using an S where its an S and not a T or D), then why not arabic? its cause we dont make the effort. i'm a linguistics fiend, so lets just continue the convo in pm rather than derail the thread (i responded here first cause i dont want people to get the wrong idea about what the proper pronunciation is)
getting back to the topic...
jus wanted to ask when gettin a nikkah done, are the guys side suppose to bring iman?
we have already organised a iman from the local mosque but the guys side are not happy and wanted to bring there own, but my families not happy with this
any advice in what we should do?
each family does their own thing... in our family, the girls side brings the imam but I dont think its worth arguing with your in-laws about...after all, who cares who brings the imam, the point is you just need a Muslim with good character to officiate your nikkah. If his family is adamant about the issue, just let them bring the imam and don't make a big fuss about it.
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Well, since we r already discussing this topic maybe I should throw my question in.
I am sunni n engaged to a shia guy. Our wedding wont be happening for another 1.5-2 yrs but rozyok's situation is kinda making me think... knowing that my family's sunni n his is shia..how would that work? Would they have to bring their SHIA Imam or a SUNNI Imam can do it? Does it really matter?