Nigerian stoning appeal heard

Nigerian stoning appeal heard

KATSINA, Nigeria (AP) --Baby in her arms, a single mother condemned by an Islamic court to death by stoning has appeared at a courthouse in northern Nigeria for an appeal of a sentence that has drawn an international outcry.

Amina Lawal, 32, in a blue and brown dress and pink veil, seemed overwhelmed at the crush Wednesday of riot police and journalists. “All these cameras, all these policemen,” she said, tears in her eyes, as she made her way inside.

Thirty-five riot police ringed the courthouse, the heaviest security yet in what has been more than a year of off-and-on hearings.

Lawal was convicted in March 2002 after the birth of her girl, Wasila, out of wedlock. An Islamic court found her guilty of adultery even though her baby was born more than two years after her divorce.

Under Islamic laws, or Shariah, adopted in a dozen predominantly Muslim northern Nigerian states, judges ordered Lawal buried up to her neck in sand and then stoned to death.

The alleged father of the baby denied responsibility and was acquitted.

Judges have postponed carrying out Lawal’s sentence until her child is weaned.

“Amina is very worried. Sometimes she can’t eat. She wants to see the end of this case so that she can marry and have a normal life,” said her uncle, 50-year-old Magaji Liman.

Officials of Katsina state have insisted the case go through the judicial appeals process despite requests by Nigeria’s federal government that Lawal be freed.

Lawal’s lawyers were due to present defense arguments at Wednesday’s hearings. It had been unclear whether the hearing would even be held.

Past hearings have repeatedly been canceled, in what some have suspected is an attempt to deflect attention following international campaigns against the sentence by rights movements and women’s groups.

I heard that in news its all very sad. But i think if she gets the punishment here it would save her in hereafter. And as a muslim i do believe that there is no end to hereafter. Hopefully justice is done.

I have forgotten the original story. Did the woman commit adultery? I mean, obviously she has a baby, so there must be something going on there.

Letting the man in this case go scot-free is shameful. No doubt. If the law of the land says that they should not have committed adultery then they should have abided by the law.

However, what was the reason why the woman was sentenced to stoning in the first place?

from what I recall of the story she was raped and it was deemed adultery on her part while the rapist was not charged (or maybe not caught?). It's despicable, and is the perfect example of why gov't and religion should be kept separate.

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is the perfect example of why gov't and religion should be kept separate.
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Aik kaam karo naa Allah miyaaN ko masjid maiN qaid kar dau.. phir agar ALLAH kahay kay usuary haram hay tau kaho.. ALLAH miyaaN .. app ko kiya pataa. aaj kal ka zamaanaa... kaarobar aisay hee chaltaa hay... agar ALLAH ka rasool kehtaa rahay kay logouN Ad'l karo kay jub tumhaiN hukumraan banaaya jayee tau kehnaa kay aap 7th century kee baat kar rahay haiN.. aaj kull humm ye baataiN nahiN maantay.. aur qiyamat kaa concept sirf uss waqt tukk theek thaa kay jubb hum paidaa nahiN huvay thay.. uss waqt aa jaati tau hummaiN yaqeen aaa jaataa laikin ab tau ye subb ajeeb saa lagtaa hay.... humm government kay kaamouN maiN jo karaiN gey, uss par hissaab kitaab thoRRI hay....

Al aiyaaz billah!

If she was raped then why was she sentenced? Ok, that was probably a naive question... but what I am getting at is whether there is an element of he-said-she-said here. Meaning, that the couple had consensual sex and when caught the woman claimed she was raped. But the court sentenced her for the punishment of consensual sex (adultery) because of other evidence?

All they need to do is a DNA test on the alleged suspect. I mean, there is a baby here, so that shouldn't be that hard.

^ Well, that the guy in this case is let off is really a stinky part in the whole case, however, that is neither here nor there for this woman. Sure they can identify paternity of the baby, but the real issue for the woman in this case is whether it was a "rape" or a "consensual adultery".

Rape is uniformally considered a crime against the woman and, therefore, logically speaking, she (the victim), should not be punished (twice). Whereas adultery is apparently a crime in most Islamic countries, including this part of Nigeria, where they'd punish both the man and the woman.

What they let the man go just like that? Evil *******s.

If the woman says she was raped and there is no evidence to suggest otherwise then the court should make her swear in Allah’s name 4 times saying she is innocent and the fifth she should call for Allah’s wrath on herself if she is lying and after that they should let her go. And they should do DNA tests a few times and if they find that the person she accuses of raping her is the father of her child then he has no excuse as she could not have raped him and so he should be whipped a hundred times if he was unmarried and stoned to death if he was married. At least that’s what I remember reading in the Quran.

To some people it might sound barbaric but strict punishments are necessary to keep law and order.

Mr. Saif-ul-Islam:

you are utterly wrong. There is no punishment of stoning mentioned any where in Holy Quran regarding adultery whether its for married and unmarried.

It was not a rape. He was her ex husband. They were divorced. The law as they read is that man can deny that he had sex and get off, while women cannot deny because she gave birth to a child, and for a single/divorced woman to give birth is considered that it was an act of adultery. Them *******s are going to go to hell very soon. This is an absolute mockery of Islam and I think whole of the Islamic world should condemn these lowlife Nigerian Shariah idiots.

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Mr. Saif-ul-Islam:

you are utterly wrong. There is no punishment of stoning mentioned any where in Holy Quran regarding adultery whether its for married and unmarried.
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Sorry my mistake, I was getting the hadith and commentary mixed up with the actual verse as these were given in brackets.

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It was not a rape. He was her ex husband. They were divorced. The law as they read is that man can deny that he had sex and get off, while women cannot deny because she gave birth to a child, and for a single/divorced woman to give birth is considered that it was an act of adultery. Them *
*****s are going to go to hell very soon. This is an absolute mockery of Islam and I think whole of the Islamic world should condemn these lowlife Nigerian Shariah idiots.
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i dont knwo wats over come me but for the second time in my little life i agree with u i read this in the times yesterday and it made me so angry. to be honest if islam is goign to be followed then follow it properly get a dna test gor gods sake or let the poor woman go as well.

Here is another very interesting prespective:

Commentary: Sharia, the Divine Law of Islam From NPR

Listen to All Things Considered audio

Aug. 29, 2003

This week in Nigeria, a court heard an appeal in the case of Amina Lawal. Under the Muslim law that dominates her province, Lawal was sentenced to die by stoning for sleeping with a man who is not her husband. The evidence against her: a baby daughter. This case has attracted worldwide attention because of the harshness of the sentence. Commentator Asra Nomani says that it is easy to dismiss it as an aberration, but the sentiment behind it trickles down through Muslim cultures all over the world, including in the United States. Asra Nomani is the author of the book Tantrika: Traveling the Road of Divine Love.

Update:

Shariah Appeal Court aquits Amina Lawal; cites precedural errors in her previous trial in which she was found guilty.

Prosecutors have accepted the verdict and will not be carrying the case any further. She’s free to go.

Thankgod..man’s law is smarter than god’s law. :k:

She was acquitted under God’s law (it was a Shariah court that aquitted her) because she was found not to have been initially tried and sentenced correctly under God’s law.

This is no different to guilty verdicts under English Law being repealed at an English Law appeals court.

could she appeal god's verdict?

God's verdict? The guilty verdict was given by men who evidently failed to accurately follow the standards laid down by God for guilt to be established.

So wqhy is there so much confusion in god’s mandates. She should figure it out and then come correct. :hoonh: