another point i’d like to make, pple are very quick to judge that this person has taken a picture and etc etc … but those same pple dont hesitate when posting their own pic somewhere…
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Originally posted by ~Mickey~:
** Your point is?
I can take a picture of a women in Burqa and keep her picture without her will, but what can she do? I have the picture right?
My point here is to know who took the picture and who kept it and who published it? Taliban?**
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mickey, taliban are not children...
given how much headstrong they are,
they can easily object to the presence
of cameras when the meet world leaders.
but they choose not to do so.
they are now routinely filmed during
these meetings...which was not so,
say, a couple of years ago
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Originally posted by ammarr:
**In addition to what Mickey said, who the hell are we to question their decisions? All the information we have so far, comes through our Western Media. Who do you trust more? Your Muslim brothers? or the Media which is always trying to destroy Islam's image?
And what the hell are you doing here? Instead of trying to prove your Muslim brother right.. you people are looking for proof to make them look the bad guys? huh? I ask you who the hypocrite is now? Naam musalman aur kaam musalmanoun kay khilaf?
Did you even care about looking thro some Afghani newspapers? bothered mailing/emailing their administration(or whatever) ? I'm pretty sure NOT!. And until and unless I get their side of the story too, I will not go to these limits to prove them wrong!**
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good points ammar...
that same lecturer that i was speaking about in a prior post told us that other individuals wanted to send aid to afghanistan.. but he didnt take the money to send there.. he told them to go themselves and see where the money is going. and they went. and they came back.
Its that I hear the word hypocrisy and hypocrites from the mouth of hypocrites all the time, so it gets confusing sometimes for me to know who is willing for Allah (swt) and who is not.
Some people will go far lengths in the name of Allah and his beloved Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) and are not afraid to say “ME against the WORLD” and there are some that will deny the favor of Allah just to look good in the eyes of anther.
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Originally posted by Scratch:
** mickey, taliban are not children...
given how much headstrong they are,
they can easily object to the presence
of cameras when the meet world leaders.
but they choose not to do so.
they are now routinely filmed during
these meetings...which was not so,
say, a couple of years ago
they are just a bunch of hypocrites
**
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so are u saying that someone can not modify an interpretation of a religion upon gaining more knowledge?
hmm.. wow. i wonder if most of the world's great Islamic speakers would still be up there.
pple sit here and argue about a picture. when u dont know who took it, how it was taken, where it was taken, why it was taken.
my aunt has a pic of her grandfather who is strictly against taking pics. he was looking away when that pic was taken.
another point. isnt this the digital age? that pic could have been taken very far away and zoomed in. u just dont know.
pple sit here and talk about pictures.. when a mother of a child is dying in palestine.
a father and his child are killed in bosnia...
a mother takes her dead child in her arms in kashmir..
the picture is bigger than the way pple look at it.
(and i'm not talkin about this one)
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Originally posted by Scratch:
** mickey, taliban are not children...
given how much headstrong they are,
they can easily object to the presence
of cameras when the meet world leaders.
but they choose not to do so.
they are now routinely filmed during
these meetings...which was not so,
say, a couple of years ago
they are just a bunch of hypocrites
**
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And if the do use force or take matters in their own hands to stop others from taking their pictures then people like you will call them idiots and jahil barbarians and arrogant.
You won’t let them live one way or the other.
Take example the thread in World Affairs, when the Taliban said that they respect Hindus and Sikh minority and will not destroy their temples or idols because they still have people of that faith in that country, people like you still criticized them and made a mockery out of it.
You guys can’t make up your own minds how can you expect others to believe you?
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Originally posted by Scratch:
** mickey, taliban are not children...
given how much headstrong they are,
they can easily object to the presence
of cameras when the meet world leaders.
but they choose not to do so.
they are now routinely filmed during
these meetings...which was not so,
say, a couple of years ago
they are just a bunch of hypocrites
**
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exactly!!
shia's are not safe in afghanistan..these jerks wouldnt let them live there peacefully..and i dont need no western media to know about this..jiska dard hoga takleef bhi ussay hi hogi
p.s. i am no religous scholer but i do know that my religion doesnt say to destroy others because of their religious beliefs
Oh! and one more thing.. Please try to avoid threads which serve no other purpose than show to the world how divided we all are.. that we can not even back up our own Muslim brothers! If a muslim takes a strong step, all we do is criticize, criticize, criticize!
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Originally posted by Sheraz CT:
** exactly!!
shia's are not safe in afghanistan..these jerks wouldnt let them live there peacefully..and i dont need no western media to know about this..jiska dard hoga takleef bhi ussay hi hogi
p.s. i am no religous scholer but i do know that my religion doesnt say to destroy others because of their religious beliefs
**
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Really? Shias (Majority Hazaris) are not safe? Why don’t you ask them about that money/bribes they took to take out genocide against Pathans (Majority of Talibans) from Iran and Russia?
Please first find the truth, read the UN violation report and you will know who started all this in the first place and why they keep on denying peace and Shariah and Sunnah? Then you can come and speak.
Sheraz, ... atleast he doesn't flirt with girls on msg. boards and doesn't post his pics for all to see! tumharey chehray pur barastee hai samjhay! uskay chehray pur dharee hai.. woh sunnat ko follow kur raha hai.. woh musalmanoun key liay awaz buland kur raha hai aur tumhain phitkar nazar aa rahee hai..? kia tum hoe..?
[This message has been edited by ammarr (edited March 14, 2001).]
Just a question...which one of you all are a good example to Islam? or have done something for the sack of Islam...I mean all you do is listen to the media and then critisize the talibans without seeing what actually happened.
The world should be filled with bhuths... why not bring them to our neighbourhoods or maybe our houses...so when it is namaaz time we can pray towards it.
Hindus burnt the quran...they destroyed a masjid in India a few years ago, who asked them anything???
Here we have a group who are giving their life for the sake of their people and their country...and then we have the opposission who is recognised by the united nations to be rightfull ruler of afghanistan just because he is a war criminal, all his men did was rape women burn their men and shoot their youngsters....I mean comon the talibans were hereos a few years ago weren't they, they were created by U.S initially...but because they did not wanted to be slaves, they are public enemy no1.
Don't judge who is muslim or not, their might be other reasons.
[This message has been edited by kingshah (edited March 14, 2001).]
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Originally posted by ~Mickey~:
** Really? Shias (Majority Hazaris) are not safe? Why don’t you ask them about that money/bribes they took to take out genocide against Pathans (Majority of Talibans) from Iran and Russia?
Please first find the truth, read the UN violation report and you will know who started all this in the first place and why they keep on denying peace and Shariah and Sunnah? Then you can come and speak.**
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yeah like all of this was happening right infront of ur eyes..and these shia's were denying peace, shariah and sunnah..so basically just because they are shia talibans have right to kill them..get a life kid
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Originally posted by ammarr: Sheraz, bakwas bund karo samjhay.. atleast he doesn't flirt with girls on msg. boards and doesn't post his pics for all to see! Phitkar tumharey chehray pur barastee hai samjhay! uskay chehray pur dharee hai.. woh sunnat ko follow kur raha hai.. woh musalmanoun key liay awaz buland kur raha hai aur tumhain phitkar nazar aa rahee hai..? kia tum pagal hoe..?
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atleast i dont kill the innocent ppl..just because he has a beard u cant say he is following the sunnah..quite honestly he is scary enough to give little children nightmares
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Originally posted by Sheraz CT:
** atleast i dont kill the innocent ppl..just because he has a beard u cant say he is following the sunnah..quite honestly he is scary enough to give little children nightmares
**
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