Next generation Pakistan uncover new talent to replace Waqar and Wasim

Any side losing the likes of Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis would be bound to be weaker for their absence.

The pair led Pakistan’s attack for more than a decade, amassing 1,705 wickets between them in Tests and one-day internationals.

But the performances of Shabbir Ahmed and Umar Gul in their first Test series suggests the country’s fast bowling reserves are ready for the challenge of filling the gap.

Wasim called time on his international career after the World Cup, and Waqar found himself sidelined by the selectors in a move intended to accelerate the development of younger talent.

Shoaib Akhtar and rising star Mohammad Sami are seen as the spearheads of the new-look attack, although Sami missed all three Tests against Bangladesh because of an ankle problem and Shoaib only played in the first two.

But in taking 32 wickets between them in the three matches, Shabbir and Gul showed why they are seen as the ideal back-up.

Shabbir’s height, 6ft 4ins, makes him a real handful and the 27-year-old comes from Khanewal, a town close to Burewala, where Waqar started his cricket.

“I remember I watched Waqar’s first match on television and having heard a lot about him, I longed to be like him,” said Shabbir.

His international career, though, came to an abrupt halt when his bowling action was questioned after he made his one-day debut in 1999.

“Waqar told me to have a never-say-die approach and even after my action was questioned, I knew I would come back.”

He did so with the support of West Indian great Michael Holding who helped remodel his action.

Gul’s is a story is one of rags to riches.

Born into a poor family, his home town of Nawae-Kali is better known for producing world-class squash players like Jahangir Khan, Jansher Khan and Qamar Zaman.

“Gul is a hard worker.His father couldn’t afford a kit yet he fulfilled his childhood dreams of making a name in cricket,” said Zaman.

Gul made an impact at junior level, when he finished as top wicket-taker in the ICC Youth World Cup in New Zealand last year.

Spotted by former Test bowler Rashid Khan, Gul’s most cherished moment came when he practised along side Wasim for Pakistan International Airlines team.

“I was watching Wasim bowl more than bowling myself and the coach had to remind me that I was not there as a fan but as a player,” he recalled.

Wasim praised Gul as a quick learner, saying: “He has the talent to go places.”

The stage is set for Gul and Shabbir to stake a claim for permanent places.

“Many people believe we can replace the two Ws but its very early to say this. We are here to help the team and may be one day come close to our idols,” they said.

Source: Here.

whata bowling attack we can arrange now

Waqar
Shoaib
Sami
Gul
Shabbir
Abdul Razzaq

Re: Next generation Pakistan uncover new talent to replace Waqar and Wasim

well, i saw the matches…and i couldnt feel anything special abt shabbir’s bowling…and gul also didnt perform a feat…its too early to fit them in the 2 W’s shoes…this young “talent” will be put to test at the end of the month when they take on the might of south africa…

Remove Waqar from your list. Consider him gone. Thanks to PCB :mad2:

Now we have these great bolwers

Shoaib
Sami
Gul
Shabbir
Saqlain/ Danish/ Mushtaq
Hafeez/ Malik (part time bolwers)
Razzaq/Azhar

I dont see anything wrong in our bowling attack ..:konfused: Its great.

^^ masha'allah

Are you making fun of me cuz i have listed so many bowlers ..:konfused:

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Shoaib
Sami
Gul
Shabbir
Saqlain/ Danish/ Mushtaq
Hafeez/ Malik (part time bolwers)
Razzaq/Azhar

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Only Shoaib and to some extent Sami are world class bowlers out of the above mentioned list. Gul and Shabir are good only as a back up, I dont think we can go with Gul/Shabir attach agaisnt quality oppositions. We were lucky to get away with them agaisnt Bangladesh.

I am big supporter of Saqlain but the truth is he hasnt performed upto the standard latley. Same is the case with Raazaq. Azhar has never been a good bowler. We can count him as part timer too. Mushtaq seems to be in the bad books of the seletion commitee so lets leave him alone for now. Danish was a big dissapointment agaisnt Bangladesh. He'll have improve a lot to be able to perform agaisnt quality battiung line ups.

Hafeez can only be a part time bowler, he can be used for a few overs if the regular bowlers are going for too many runs. Shoaib Malik has improved a lot since this rebuilding process started. He not only scores useful runs down the order but also chips in with a few wickets.

Overall I think we have a decent bowling line up. Nothing extra ordinary, atleast not yet. Lets hope the youngsters step up and make this a fearsome bowling line up.

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Overall I think we have a decent bowling line up. Nothing extra ordinary, atleast not yet. Lets hope the youngsters step up and make this a fearsome bowling line up.
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I am sure as Gul and Shabbir gain experience they'll become fearsome otherwise there are more bowlers knocking on the door. Azhar is almost done, Razzaq will remain under observation otherwise other all rounders will come in.

except for sami n shoaib, all the rest leave alot 2b desired...

They can be replaced but they can never be matched, no matter what PCB thinks :-)

Shoaib, Sami, Gul and Shabbir make a pretty useful looking pace attack. I'd like to see them operating in the same team, I think they'd look pretty useful.

hey guys dont forget the debutant jinaid....
he is QUICK and maybe accurate too....
lets just wait and see how he does....
and maybe we can list him too....

without Wasim, Waqar and now Saeed Anwar our team is half as strong as it was with them and i dont see anyone with the same talent, ability, consistency and expetrtise to make Pakistan strong enough to be the team to defeat the likes of Australi, S. Africa and even India...the team during the 1999 WC was indeed a winner team!
i don;t see Pakistan performing nay better than this yr's WC in the next...there's simply no leadership like Wasim Akram , which is very important...

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i don;t see Pakistan performing nay better than this yr's WC in the next...there's simply no leadership like Wasim Akram , which is very important...
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We have 4 years, currently our team is going thru experiments and very soon we will find the winning formula ... be patient and extend ur support :)

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Shoaib, Sami, Gul and Shabbir make a pretty useful looking pace attack. I'd like to see them operating in the same team, I think they'd look pretty useful.
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Well you can't have 5 pacers in the same team assuming Razzaq will be included on regular basis.One has to sit out. I wil take Gul for ODI and Shabbir for test.

Gul and Shabbir aren't very penetrative but as backup they will do just fine.

We desperately need a world class spinner. Mushi comes close but he won't be selected..Saqlain is bogus- Both Shoaib and Hafeez can claim more wickets than him.Kaneria has a potential but was a flop against bangladesh.

We already have two quikies and three decent medium pacers(shabir,gul ,razzaq). We have two good part time spinners(shoaib,Hafeez) but no specialist spin bowler

Razzaq isn't in the same league as a bowler, he gets his place in the team on the basis of his batting. Gul and Shabbir are two guys who actually bowl pretty well with the new ball because they move it both ways off the seam and get bounce as well. They don't have the same firepower to blast through the tail like Shoaib and Sami though. Both very useful bowlers though, and better than Razzaq.

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Well you can't have 5 pacers in the same team assuming Razzaq will be included on regular basis.One has to sit out. I wil take Gul for ODI and Shabbir for test.

Gul and Shabbir aren't very penetrative but as backup they will do just fine.

We desperately need a world class spinner. Mushi comes close but he won't be selected..Saqlain is bogus- Both Shoaib and Hafeez can claim more wickets than him.Kaneria has a potential but was a flop against bangladesh.

We already have two quikies and three decent medium pacers(shabir,gul ,razzaq). We have two good part time spinners(shoaib,Hafeez) but no specialist spin bowler
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Pakistan not need to worry for a specilist full time spinner in one dayers, both Malik and Hafeez can do that job.
Pakistan @ all times should play 6 bowlers, 3 full time and 3 Part time (Hafeez, Malik, Razzq) Because you never know when Shoaib has an off day or Razzaq. I agree with Mr X, Razzaq is their only because he can bat, and having Sami, Shoaib, and Gul/Shabbir is the right combo.

In test Pakistan should have 4 specialist bowlers
Shoaib
Sami
Saqlain/Kaneria/Mushy
Gul/Shabbir

In one dayers, Pakistan should have 6 bowlers. 3 Fulltime, 3 Partime

Shoaib
Sami
Gul
Razzaq
Malik
Hafeez

Razzaq, Hafeez, Malik should bowl out 20 over between them.

I agree with LahoriMunda

what ever happened to mohammaed zahid? he was included in the squad for the sharjah cup but never played a match....if the likes of junaid zia and yasir ali are being given chances, then zahid should have the opportunity to prove himself one more time although he probably doesnt have the pace he once had before his injuries

*I think PCB should have introduced more experience bowlers then junaid Zia. I think there are more then enough bolwer in domestic cricket who deserve to be in the team, Najaf Shah, Jaffar Nazir, Abdur Rauf, Fazl-e-Akbar have been consistent in domestic cricket....hope PCB consider them.

I agree if Mohammad Zahid is healthy he should get another chance in either ODI or test match.*