Regardint that topic started by gudia, what does Islam say about the “JAN1st” New Year. Not the Islamic New Year. I would love to find out more.
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Its still a new year. Not in the Islamic calendar, but in the Western calendar it is.
I don’t think celebrating January 1st as New Year’s is haraam and I don’t think its pagan. But this guy does. And then check out lajawab’s thread in feedback. He has issues about Jan 1, and yet he is looking for dirty games on GS.
:rolleyes:
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showpost.php?p=3781319&postcount=5
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im not saying that..im opposing that, just saying IT IS a pagan tradition where gudia does not agree
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Celebrating New Years is a pagan tradition, but since you didn’t know.
http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/NewYearsHistory.htm
Even the christians didn’t use to celebrate the New Years. It really goes to show you what the world has come to, and our fellow muslims are also following that path.
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Um, maybe because the world grew up and realized that New Year's has nothing pagan about it.
Except beer. But you can have that even at eid.
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***In later years, Roman pagans observed the New Year by engaging in drunken orgies – ***
Ok, now whats the difference between those pagans, and the people we see outside time square getting drunk.
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People in Times Square are not engaging in orgies. If anyone did anything so silly, it would be all over the news. And desis would be the first ones clicking on those news websites.
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gudia u have been misguided. please read more about Islam rather then chatting on gs.
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cricketplaya:
Playa is not a proper English word. You are trying to immitate people who are not muslims, by using ebonics. Shame on you.
Unless you can pull me some authentic source of why me having dinner on New Year's Eve with family and friends, or me watching the ball drop at NY Times Square is haraam, then my friend, you need more education on Islam.
Islam is not "Lets just stop doing anything Western".
If it were, then the first thing you need to realize is that you are not an African American, playa.
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But you did insist why Pakistan (a muslim country) does not officially celebrate the new years?
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Thanks for reminding me, I am not an African American.. although my granpa was. 
Should I say anything about your screename? I shouldn’t because I am not that intelligent like yourself.
I never said it was Haram to eat dinner with your family on new year eve or watching the ball drop, infact I watched the ball drop on T.V 1:24 ago.
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Personally I dont think it is haram to celebrate new year(atleast not in the way mentioned) but really what is the celebration about?
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Okaaayy, well does anybody know wot Islam says about this exactly?
Personally (not religiously), i don't think it's bad to celebrate New Years'...after all we do follow this calendar everyday too...of course, the Islamic one is MORE important.
However, this year i find it hard to "celebrate" anyway...sure, we wish each other and so on...but with such an IMMENSE tragedy in Pakistan, it's difficult to do more. It definately hurts more when it hits home. Even though we cannot grieve this loss forever, i still think it's a bit insensitive and disrespectful to celebrate...it's just a matter of respect really. It's only been two months. If a tragedy happens within ur own family (say a death, God forbid), then do u think u will be celebrating anything two months later? I wud hope not...And tragedies happen all the time, but the earthquake and tsunami ones were too big to just brush off a few months later. I think in the US after 9/11, ppl were not that enthusiastic about celebrating the new year either. So i don't think we shud cold-heartedly dispose of our own ppl's pain just yet. Anyhow, that's just me and i know i went off topic, but when i think of this new year, i just can't help bringing up the earthquake tragedy...as most of us r all Pakistanis here. Let's just pray that things get better in the world, in this new year.
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Sorry no details on an Islamic perspective although Im sure there will be plenty of posters here who are well qualified to tell you.
i thought Id add my two pence worth
about a hundred and fifty years BC thr Romans started to celebrate New years day on January the first...because it suited them and their calender
previous to that for at least 2 thousand years New Years day was celebrated by on the spring equinox..
The Early Christians didnt celebrate New years as it had no religious connotations...
Sooo to summerise
I would agree with Umair ahmed
The romans and Babylonians (who were one of the first to celebrate the beginning of a new year although theirs was on the spring equinox) etc were what you'd call Pagans. They chose the day to start off the new year and created a tradition....
this was wasnt adopted by the some of the Church as it was deemed to be a Pagan tradition but the Church has over the years taken a tradition and adopted them or ammended them to celebrate something Christian for example the Midwinter festival was adopted to incorporate the birth of Christ hence Christmas day
Some denominations of Christians celebrate New years day as the circumcision of Christ.
Generally Christians have a New years sermon to give thanks for the last year and to pray for a brighter and happier coming year
but basically new years Day is a Tradition from a thousands of years ago from the Pagan religion
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islam dont have remanants of pre-islamic pagan practises? kissing of kaaba stone
circambulation 7 times and symbols of moon and color green.
i dont know the following verse is true ?
"I swear by the moon, And the night when it departs, And the daybreak when it shines; Surely it (hell) is one of the gravest (misfortunes)" (Koran 74:32)
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New Year's is just another day in my book. Not a big deal, and definitely nothing wrong in celebrating it.
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I find it really ironic that you have some muslims coming on guppshup Religion forum and sayign its ok to celebrate Xmas, NEw Years what drugs are they taking?
why don't they just worship cows and monkeys and find excuse to justify that aswell.
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I would like to know what is so pagan about kissing the Kaaba stone (which btw is from bait ul Maqdoos/heaven) and other stuff you mentioned?
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Jan 1st doesn't have any significance in Islamic calendar, however if you wish to celebrate...you can pray to god and be thankful for the time that you have been given.