Re: New Provinces : Bahawalpur, Multan and Hazarah
bhawalpur is just restoring the boundaries to pre-One Unit lines. I don't know why it was merged into Punjab when the trend is to decentralize governance aroudn the world?
Re: New Provinces : Bahawalpur, Multan and Hazarah
bhawalpur is just restoring the boundaries to pre-One Unit lines. I don't know why it was merged into Punjab when the trend is to decentralize governance aroudn the world?
Same with Baluchistan , Restore five states as regions and make the 'Walis' as governor , deputy governor for a long term , Give them the honor back , And see what the positive result comes out . Malakand divison was never a part of KPK/NWFP . There is a revoulationery propsal in this thread about regions mostly on historical and cultural reason .
But we are trapped by bureocracy of Takht e Lahore & without brain intermediate pass people who think themselves more than intellectuals . Who cares about My Pakistan .
Re: New Provinces : Bahawalpur, Multan and Hazarah
Same with Baluchistan , Restore five states as regions and make the 'Walis' as governor , deputy governor for a long term , Give them the honor back , And see what the positive result comes out . Malakand divison was never a part of KPK/NWFP . There is a revoulationery propsal in this thread about regions mostly on historical and cultural reason .
But we are trapped by bureocracy of Takht e Lahore & without brain intermediate pass people who think themselves more than intellectuals . Who cares about My Pakistan .
You say PPP is a federal party and on the side of right, so why isn't this part of their campaign slogan? They could gain votes based on that platform.
Or perhaps PPP is a hoax after all. I don't agree with the leftist socialist politics (private enterprise is the way to move Pakistan forward), but PPP's downfall began in Bhutto's time when he consolidated power and kicked out many idealogues that made PPP with him before the election. One of them I believe ended up in murtaza bhutto's party.
**India was divided into 14 provinces on 15th August 1947 and Now 29 provinces and 7 Union Teroteries , West Pakistan was 4 provinces ,1 federal terotery , Fifth province was bahawalpur but it was later merged into Punjab by the Traitor Yahya . and we still insist to not to give rights to the regions .
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WHEN TAKHT E LAHORE WILL COME DOWN TO RSPECT US
Re: New Provinces : Bahawalpur, Multan and Hazarah
^ oh bhai the maps that you keep posting have been changing throughout history. The Multan you have shown in the above map includes Upper Sindh and Rajhastan too. And there is no Balochistan. The issue is that more provinces are needed, but the question is how and when.
Re: New Provinces : Bahawalpur, Multan and Hazarah
^ oh bhai the maps that you keep posting have been changing throughout history. The Multan you have shown in the above map includes Upper Sindh and Rajhastan too. And there is no Balochistan. The issue is that more provinces are needed, but the question is how and when.
Yeah , You got power in sikha Shahi and cotinued it with the help of your army , Occupied Bahawapur in 1970 . Every party including PML N and PTI promised to restore Bahawalpur last year before election and just forget . After few years you will see them struggling for complete independence . If the maps are changing , It may change according to wishes of the people . India respecting the small wishes of their country man so becoming stronger and united . You the people of centeral Punjab think to keep others slave and they will leave you one day .
Re: New Provinces : Bahawalpur, Multan and Hazarah
Yeah , You got power in sikha Shahi and cotinued it with the help of your army , Occupied Bahawapur in 1970 . Every party including PML N and PTI promised to restore Bahawalpur last year before election and just forget . After few years you will see them struggling for complete independence . If the maps are changing , It may change according to wishes of the people .
PPP tried to use Seraiki card as an election ploy, too bad they failed. To be very frank, so far the Seraiki issue has not become a central and deciding issue for the people living there and we should thank the rulers (including your party) who have got people strangled in a vicious cycle trying to feed themselves (other issues are on the sidelines for the time being).
Creating provinces without any structural changes in the constitution and special focus on underdeveloped areas wont achieve anything. We can see disparities between developed and under developed areas in all provinces.
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India respecting the small wishes of their country man so becoming stronger and united . You the people of centeral Punjab think to keep others slave and they will leave you one day .
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By the way India did not get strong by creating more provinces. The main reason of their strength was the abolition of wadera shahi, will your party emulate that in Pakistan too? Sorry to say thats the only difference between Central/North Punjab/KPK and rest of the country.
Re: New Provinces : Bahawalpur, Multan and Hazarah
Whom you are supporting . Foolishness that has been totally failed . New provinces , sub-provinces or new states/regions under the flag of present provinces are the need of the time . It is not a PPP issue even PPP tried this after start of this thread . This is also a way to get rid of ethencity actually . Don't think only for Lahore , It can help more in other provinces . India or any other country never developes due to a single reason only . All aspects should be addressed at one time .
Re: New Provinces : Bahawalpur, Multan and Hazarah
^ create 100 provinces for all I care. But dont expect things will improve as things stand today. False hopes wont achieve anything. If you want to emulate India, do it fully and not few parts.
India has never had military interventions, and most importantly no feudals. Land reforms are needed which your party will never allow as they depends upon the waderas for power.
Re: New Provinces : Bahawalpur, Multan and Hazarah
^ create 100 provinces for all I care. But dont expect things will improve as things stand today. False hopes wont achieve anything. If you want to emulate India, do it fully and not few parts.
India has never had military interventions, and most importantly no feudals. Land reforms are needed which your party will never allow as they depends upon the waderas for power.
Ground realities are much different , Kamee Like N$ , Malik Riaz , Rahman Malik and many others are much richer than the people you call fudels , Even many Mullas are richer than fudels of area ,even more powerful . Another rich group is from army , retired or sons . Many bureocrat or their families have become new fudels with corruption money , best example is in PTI , the man with aeroplane . You have seen my pages and I am always in touch with people and try to understand them . Since long I am not in favor of creating new province at once but to make five sub-provinces or states in every province and all of them are naturely , geographically and historically divided into five except Sindh but for sake of equality we can also give him the same proposition . If you have read the new security policy , it has been admitted that old romantic theory Pakistani natioality has been failed . I found no solution of Baluchistan problems except this but it can not be imposed on Baluchistan only .
Re: New Provinces : Bahawalpur, Multan and Hazarah
^ I agree with that you that Punjab has been very cruel with south Punjab, I have never defended that. Now please answer one question what has stopped Sindh for developing all areas equitably?
Re: New Provinces : Bahawalpur, Multan and Hazarah
^ I agree with that you that Punjab has been very cruel with south Punjab, I have never defended that. Now please answer one question what has stopped Sindh for developing all areas equitably?
No perhaps
Development is not the only need , There are other social , cultural , ethenical , historical , administrative issues . You devided AJK , a vey small unit into two for your own purposes . It didn't weaken Pakistan or Kashmir cause . Same reasons were quoted for this divison which I am quoting for Bahawalpur , Multan , Hazara , D I Khan , Qalat .Lasbela , Karachi and other regions .
**میں سندھی ہوں، بلوچ ہوں،، پنجابی , ،پٹھان , مہاجر یا سرائیکی ہوں۔۔ ٹھیک ہے مگر میں سچا پاکستانی ہوں ، میں اپنا حق مانگتا ہوں ، نا انصافی کے خلاف میری آواز کو بغاوت نہ سمجھو ، مجھے میرے حقوق دو - آؤ مل کر خوش رہیں
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Re: New Provinces : Bahawalpur, Multan and Hazarah
^ I agree with that you that Punjab has been very cruel with south Punjab, I have never defended that. Now please answer one question what has stopped Sindh for developing all areas equitably?
Establishment, army, takht-e-Lahore, PTI, IK with all his money from yahoodis in England.