New Orleans "southern Decadence"

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HURRICANE KATRINA DESTROYS NEW ORLEANS
**DAYS BEFORE “SOUTHERN DECADENCE” **

PHILADELPHIA - Just days before “Southern Decadence”, an annual homosexual celebration attracting tens of thousands of people to the French Quarters section of New Orleans, Hurricane Katrina destroys the city.

“Southern Decadence” has a history of filling the French Quarters section of the city with drunken homosexuals engaging in sex acts in the public streets and bars. Last year, a local pastor sent video footage of sex acts being performed in front of police to the mayor, city council, and the media. City officials simply ignored the footage and continued to welcome and praise the weeklong celebration as being an “exciting event”. However, Hurricane Katrina has put an end to the annual celebration of sin.

On the official “Southern Decadence” website (www.SouthernDecadence.com), it states that the annual event brought in “125,000 revelers” to New Orleans last year, increasing by thousands each year, and up from “over 50,000 revelers” in 1997. This year?s 34th annual “Southern Decadence” was set for Wednesday, August 31, 2005 through Monday, September 5, 2005, but due to massive flooding and the damage left by the hurricane, Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco has ordered everyone to evacuate the city.

The past three mayors of New Orleans, including Sidney Barthelomew, Marc H. Morial, and C. Ray Nagin, issued official proclamations welcoming visitors to “Southern Decadence”. Additionally, New Orleans City Council made other proclamations recognizing the annual homosexual celebration.

“Although the loss of lives is deeply saddening, this act of God destroyed a wicked city,” stated Repent America director Michael Marcavage. “From ‘Girls Gone Wild’ to ‘Southern Decadence,’ New Orleans was a city that had its doors wide open to the public celebration of sin. From the devastation may a city full of righteousness emerge,” he continued.

New Orleans was also known for its Mardi Gras parties where thousands of drunken men would revel in the streets to exchange plastic jewelry for drunken women to expose their breasts and to engage in other sex acts. This annual event sparked the creation of the “Girls Gone Wild” video series. Furthermore, Louisiana had a total of ten abortion clinics with half of them operating in New Orleans, where countless numbers of children were murdered at the hands of abortionists. Additionally, New Orleans has always been known as one of the “Murder Capitals of the World” with a rate ten times the national average.

“We must help and pray for those ravaged by this disaster, but let us not forget that the citizens of New Orleans tolerated and welcomed the wickedness in their city for so long,” Marcavage said. “May this act of God cause us all to think about what we tolerate in our city limits, and bring us trembling before the throne of Almighty God,” Marcavage concluded.

“[God] sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.” (Matthew 5:45)
“…hold yourselves accountable before you are held accountable”
Umar ibn ul Khattab

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It's interesting to learn that there are many others who share the same belief that it was a punishment from Allah (SWT).

Btw, please post the source of the article.

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i dont think we should postulate as to God's intentions behind these disasters. you're human and cannot possibly claim or even imply what Allah is thinking or His plan is. Bear in mind that a lot of Muslim countries get floods where equal numbers get killed if not more. Also bear in mind that San Francisco is quite safe and sound, as is Seattle.

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It's interestng to learn that there are many retards in the world who believe that Allah is doling out punishment to fit his narrow minded agenda.

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Nothing happens but with the WILL of Allah:swt:

It could be punishment or it could be a test. In either case, patience is the virtue and repentance is the way to get salvation.

Rasoolulah:saw: mentioned one of the signs of Qayamah that Natural disasters will be in abundance. We are witnessing the prophecies already.

As for “lot of Muslim countries get floods,” it could very well be the punishment as well. Allah knows best.

As for other places safe and sound, bear in mind that a time shall come.

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^exactly. so you dont know if it is a punishment or a test. people tend to make it a test when it happens to them, consider it a punishment when it happens to others.

IF you are claiming (however snidely) to know God's purpose then you should be able to answer the reasoning behind it. California, the porn capital of the world, with SF as the homosexual capital of america, those who do recieve news from above as to why floods happen, can they explain to me why New Orleans got it before California?

Bottom line is you dont know, nor can you or should you claim to know.

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From what I've read in the past, natural disasters are a punishment from Allah (SWT). Please feel free to correct me.

Tu ...
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may be, New Orlean’s incident is a warning to california :smiley:

sadiyah: natural disasters are punishment from ALLAH if you look at the punishments described in Quran.

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I've never read anything like that, nor would it seem likely to me, given how secure certain very sinful places have been for a very long time, and how predictable natural disasters in some places have become.

bangladeshis must be very sinful people, particularly in comparison to vegas dwellers.

as for AQ's post above. Quran mentions natural disasters as a method of punishment, but doesnt mention that all natural disasters are a punishment from Allah, to my knowledge.

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So I’ve got it right (so far)?

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no. punishments are mentioned as coming in the form of natural disasters. but that doesnt imply that all natural disasters are punishments.

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That is true too:

for example:

:bism:

2: 214 "Do you think that you will enter paradise without undergoing such trials as were experienced by the believers before you? They met with adversity and affliction and were so shaken by trials that the Prophet of the time and his followers cried out “When will Allah’s help come?” Then they were comforted with the good tidings, “Yes, Allah’s help is near.”

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agreed. I'd like to add though, that just because those two (punishment/trials) are reasons mentioned in the Quran for natural disasters, doesnt mean that these are the only two reasons. it could be something never revealed to us, and we cannot state otherwise because Im not aware of any verse that lists these two as the only two reasons behind disasters. all of us have probably seen by now that fate often works in tragic ways one cannot explain through reasoning, and often Allah's will is known only to Him.

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So what was it then? Nai’ma from Allah? As Muslims it is our aqeedah that everything good or bad comes from Allah. Now when you know its from Allah and its highly potent, logic says more or less it would be a punishment.

However it is my belief that a natural disaster is all three; punishment, warning and Nai’ma. Punishment for those who had sinned and were destroyed, warning for those who escaped harm and those were not present and Nai’ma for those pious and righteous people who happened to live there in that area and were hence harmed by the disaster.

As far as the argument about why Cali and SF were not struck first…Allah o Alim. They are His people, His world…He knows best when to give and what to give.

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So what was it then? Nai'ma from Allah?

I dont know.

As Muslims it is our aqeedah that everything good or bad comes from Allah.

Yes, but that doesnt imply that we should claim to know why it came from Him.

Now when you know its from Allah and its highly potent, logic says more or less it would be a punishment.

no. as AQ posted, it could be a trial. or it could be something we can never guess.

*However it is my belief that a natural disaster is all three; punishment, warning and Nai'ma. Punishment for those who had sinned and were destroyed, warning for those who escaped harm and those were not present and Nai'ma for those pious and righteous people who happened to live there in that area and were hence harmed by the disaster. *

that is merely your belief, unless you cite for me the Islamic basis for it.

*As far as the argument about why Cali and SF were not struck first...Allah o Alim. They are His people, His world...He knows best when to give and what to give.
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exactly. if you wish to claim to know what Allah's motive is about His world in one matter, you should be prepared to defend it instead of resorting to Allah knows when questioned about it. You do not know what His motive was in New Orleans, just as you dont know what His motive is in Cali and SF.

getting so specific about Allah's iraday opens you up to such easy attacks. It makes your faith very fundamentally logically flawed, because you cannot then explain the logic behind Allah's punishing (testing/giving naima) bangladeshis annually while letting most dens of degradation around the world thrive.

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Ravage, i can post statements passed by people like Umar (rah) that clearly suggest that natural disasters come, when people transgress and are hence punishment for their sins.

But then again, people like you would start questioning the validity of Umar (rah) as a reliable source.

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Allah does not test the Kuffar. He only tests the mo’mineen.

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source

http://www.repentamerica.com/pr_hurricanekatrina.html

NAJIAH
NAJIAH
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sharaabi:not only would i do that, I would also tell you that it goes against the verse posted by AQ, where another cause is mentioned.

knowing the specific Will of Allah behind such disasters is part of Ilm ul Ghaib, and I can point out specific verses from the Quran that state that nobody knows the Will of Allah unless personally informed.

its ironic how this bit of spiritual wisdom is brought to you by the same group of people who wished the White House didnt sponsor Muslim worship..

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I did not say that Kuffar were tested. I was merely pointing out that it could be a test as well as a punishment at the same time. And for that I have a reason :snooty:

As for declaring it a punishment altogether, I gather you forgot a fairly large Muslim community of the area?