New IRI Polls: 67% of Pakistanis want Mushrraf to go now.

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bhai jaan are the other 33% not Pakistani? :confused:

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What 33%? Poll doesn’t say 33% support Mushrraf. In those 33% you have undecided, and the people who really don’t care one way or the other. Mushrraf’s realistic support is probably around 15% which is pretty consistent from previous poll of 18%.

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And majority of them are in southern parts of the country!

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I did not say 33% support musharraf but 33% who dont want him to go, whether because they want him to stay, or because they are indifferent or because they are undecided. its 33% who at this pint have not said that they want him to go, and they are Pakistani too. That was the pint

it was established a number of posts ago that goign by IRI numbers (which btw are much more acceptable in Q4 2007 then they were Q2 2006 :rofl:) 23% ppl support him, and we discussed that even 23% is a large number in a fragmented political scene as Pakistans.

now fight it out with lockjaw, whether its IRI 23% which is reliable per IRI or your 15% assumption. if it is 23%, in a coalition setting that is still pretty important. now note I am not saying this as support and I am not saying that he has majority, but a simple mathematical exercise showing that in a country with such a fragmented political scene anyone with such numbers is a player. look at Israeili and Italian elections and see coaolitions there, and even in pakistan where sometimes smaller parties have a strong presence because without them in teh coalition the majority goes away…

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errrrr...actually no. its in Punjab.

Musharraf's highest percentage of support of any province is punjab and since it has the highest population thats where majority of that 23% is. Unless pujab is in south in which case I stand corrected

lemme give you the numbers, i will just list ppl who have support in double digits.

punjab

BB 23%
PM 31%
NS 35%

sind

BB 51%
PM 17%

NWFP

BB 18%
PM 10%
NS 26%
IK 20%

Baluchistan

BB 43%
PM 15%
fazl 13%

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anyways some other interesting observations regarding some players popularity rankings. interesting stuff..

Month Jun06 sep06 feb07 Jun07 Sep07 NOv07

BB 38% 45% 46% 54% 36% 38%
NS 31% 40% 40% 50% 53% 38%
PM 45% 51% 46% 35% 22% 28%
IK 16% 13% 17% 27% 21% 20%

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I agree, but 33% doesn't by default support Mushrraf either. With actions taken by Mushrraf this year 15 to 18% is a big number (thats within margin of error from previous 18% poll +- 4%). BTW, its impossible get everyone's opinion, but 67% is huge number. If PPP and PMLN get 67% of seats in next election that be good enough verdict on Mushrraf. Don you agree?

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http://dawn.com/2007/12/14/top1.htm

67pc want Musharraf to step down: survey: •57pc against emergency •Action against judges unpopular

By Masood Haider

NEW YORK, Dec 13: Majority of Pakistanis want to see President Pervez Musharraf step down, according to the first poll released since he declared a state of emergency last month.

Sixty-seven per cent of those surveyed said President Musharraf should resign immediately, according to the poll by the International Republican Institute (IRI), a conservative-leaning civic group based in Washington.

A full 70 per cent judged that his government did not deserve re-election and two-thirds “expressed anger at the current state of affairs, desired change and were anti-Musharraf,” the IRI said.

The results also appeared to show widespread discontent with the US-backed proposal of a power-sharing arrangement between Musharraf and opposition leader Benazir Bhutto, with 60 per cent opposing the idea.

A majority (58 per cent) indicated they would prefer to see in power an opposition alliance composed of key anti-Musharraf figures, including former premiers Benazir and Nawaz Sharif.

Only one-third were “supportive of President Musharraf and were positive about the condition of the country”, while 56 per cent said the army should stay out of civilian government, it said.

On the imposition of emergency on Nov 3 and the dismissal of the Supreme Court judges, the poll said that the voters overwhelmingly opposed the measure.

Musharraf’s move polarised the country, and this polarisation carries through the other attitudes and opinions of the Pakistani electorate. This line of polarisation splits the electorate into two parts, at roughly the two-third and one-third divide. Throughout the poll, 25 to 33 per cent remained supportive of President Musharraf and were positive about the condition of the country. Seventy-five to 66 per cent expressed anger at the current state of affairs, desired change and were anti-Musharraf.

• When asked if they supported or opposed the declaration of emergency, 26 per cent said they supported it while 70 per cent said they opposed; 57 per cent said that they strongly opposed the measure.

**• Pakistanis also do not accept Musharraf’s stated rationale for the state of emergency declaration. When given a choice between two options, 25 per cent said they thought Musharraf declared the emergency in order to better fight terrorists, while 66 per cent said that it was to prevent the Supreme Court from overturning his re-election for another term as president.

• Voters were also opposed to the various measures that accompanied the state of emergency declaration.

  • 71 per cent opposed the suspension of the Constitution;

  • 77 per cent opposed the detention of the former Supreme Court justices;

  • 76 per cent opposed the closure of TV news channels;

  • 73 per cent opposed the swearing-in of new Supreme Court justices;

  • 70 per cent opposed the ban on political rallies; and

  • 76 per cent opposed the crackdown on lawyers and civil society, and the house arrest of opposition leaders.

• Pakistanis also expressed support for the ongoing protests against the state of emergency, with 62 per cent saying that they supported the protests and 35 per cent saying they opposed them.

• When respondents were asked if they would consider elections held under a state of emergency to be free and fair, 24 per cent said yes and 66 per cent responded no.

The poll noted that Musharraf had already been re-elected to a second presidential term last month, but he could be prosecuted over the state of emergency if he did not secure a two-thirds majority of lawmakers.**

The IRI said it surveyed a random sample of 3,520 people across Pakistan, and the poll carried a margin of error of plus or minus 1.69 percentage points.

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In other news, 67% of Pakistanis consider Osama a hero and think Mossad was behind 9/11. Mob rule aka democracy isn't the jannat people think it is.

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Voters were also opposed to the various measures that accompanied the state of emergency declaration.

  • 71 per cent opposed the suspension of the Constitution;

  • 77 per cent opposed the detention of the former Supreme Court justices;

  • 76 per cent opposed the closure of TV news channels;

  • 73 per cent opposed the swearing-in of new Supreme Court justices;

  • 70 per cent opposed the ban on political rallies; and

  • 76 per cent opposed the crackdown on lawyers and civil society, and the house arrest of opposition leaders.

This is the reality in Pakistan....and minus Karachi/Hyderabad this figure will be much higher....the criminal dictator is in trouble>>>>

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Yeah, but thise survey was reagarding Musharaf not OBL... Although its interesting that even Osmam scored higher then Mushie...:D

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I think Musharafs support in Karachi is exagerated... Perhaps the Mohajir community has a soft spot for Mush, but its yet to be proven conclusivly how the majority of Karachiites feel...
I doubt the other communities care for him very much as the represent the rest of the country more accurately then the Urdu speaking community do.

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What you say is interesting is actually very sad and tells the true state of affairs in Pakistan. We were very close to becoming Afghanistan v2.0 before Musharraf reversed that trend somewhat.

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What do mush apologists have to say about this?

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I think it shows the gullibility of our media who will print pretty much anything for publicity without checking facts. This is why the code of conduct for them is not such a bad idea.

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lol code of conduct does not apply to them as long as they praise Mushy. Also, I have a feeling Dr. Sher Afghan was behind this press release, but then again 'Boston' as a location brings another thought into mind.

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The press has no code of conduct to begin with. That is why they printed this and other propaganda items (Shaukat Aziz's wife is jewish etc.) without checking even the most basic of facts. For all we know, this fake poll was created by anti-Mush people to discredit him.

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actually it appears the biggest base of support for Musharraf is Punjab, and not Karachi as certain people with their own prejudices would like to claim..

and he scored higher than BB, Nawaz, Imran and even ppls darling Ifti as well.

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Yeah right... for all 'you' know.

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and that its self tells us how seriously these surveys should be taken :)

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