new DG. ISI

Sachaydino · September 19, 2014, 9:08pm

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What sub forum? Can you explain? Dragging army in politics has always been moto of corrupt lotay who get oxygen from army/ISI. Do you think it is o.k. to discuss DGISI purely on political reasons? Then no doubt Pakistan army has never been a professional army like in India.

Sachaydino · September 19, 2014, 9:14pm

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Army involvment in politics goes back to 1950's. I don't understand what do you want to say? Read history of army's involvement in politics then enlighten your concocted wisdom here.

Sachaydino · September 19, 2014, 9:17pm

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You are supporter of tub of lard, the kalu qatil of landan sharif. Post all nonsense and blame ZAB for evils of others. Read this news also. parhta ja aor sharmata ja

The political role of the ISI – The Express Tribune

A constitutional petition has been filed in the Supreme Court, seeking the abolition of the political wing of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI). In the Asghar Khan case, the then DG-ISI General (retd) Asad Durani has admitted that funds were distributed by the organisation to manipulate the 1990 elections against the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP). Both these cases relate to the involvement of the ISI in politics and its interference in the election process in favour of those parties considered more patriotic and suitable for promoting a certain kind of ideology. An impression has been created that it was Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, who for ulterior motives established a political cell of the ISI in 1975 and involved it in politics. However, there is evidence that intelligence agencies had been involved in politics since the 1950s.

The interviews and articles of some retired officials point to the involvement of the military in political manipulations since 1957, if not earlier. Their involvement was enhanced with the imposition of martial law in 1958 and they remained involved in political activities during the Ayub Khan era. During Yahya Khan’s rule, the agencies got more deeply involved in politics. They monitored and reported the prospects of political parties taking part in the 1970 elections. Funds were placed at the disposal of General Umer, who was the head of the National Security Council. These funds were distributed to ‘Islam pasand’ right wing parties.

Let us now examine the notorious so-called ‘political cell’ of the ISI. In 1975, during the Balochistan insurgency, the Hyderabad tribunal was set up to try over 50 Pakistanis, mainly Baloch and Pashtun politicians from the National Awami Party, who were charged with various crimes including treason. The evidence against the accused was mainly based on intelligence reports compiled by the ISI. According to the late Naseerullah Babar, Attorney General Yahya Bakhtiar was of the view that since the ISI had no defined role that mandated it to monitor political activities, therefore, these reports would not be accepted by the tribunal. To make the evidence legally admissible, an administrative order was issued, mandating the ISI to monitor the activities of political parties. However, this order did not authorise it to make alliances, distribute funds or manipulate elections.

With every successive military dispensation, the ISI has gained in strength and its involvement in affairs of the state has grown. The Afghan jihad turned the ISI into the most powerful department of the country. The officers of that era were involved in political manipulations for the 1985 elections.

From 1988 onwards, the ISI was actively involved in political manipulations targeting PPP. They had plans for waging jihad and considered Benazir Bhutto a hurdle in its plans. The military was also actively involved in political activities throughout General Pervez Musharraf’s rule.

In 1989, Benazir Bhutto constituted the Zulfikar Commission to review the workings of the intelligence agencies. The Commission recommended that the ISI should not be entrusted with formulation of foreign policy and should be relieved of responsibilities related to political matters. These recommendations were never implemented.

The 1975 order should be withdrawn by the government. The ISI should realise that with a vibrant media and an active judiciary, political wheeling and dealing cannot remain hidden. The ISI is an efficient and well-organised agency. It should not undertake functions beyond its charter. There has to be a paradigm shift in its functioning that corresponds to the changing environment.

Published in The Express Tribune, March 18th, 2012.

Sachaydino · September 19, 2014, 9:23pm

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Was there any democracy in Pakistan? You keep on your rhetoric, can not change the truth. Yes your tub of lard, the taxi driver of Chicago, was brought back by Mardood Zia-ul-Haq and handed over Sindh to this criminal. Sindh abhi tak is ko bughat raha hay. 1988 main Qura’n ki qasam khata hay ke Sindh ki taqseem nahin chahita, aor ab bakwaas kar raha hay.

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Decent_6Chora · September 19, 2014, 9:32pm

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keep posting irrelevant articles. Its the facts, VERDICT and history that matters and not articles which are the representative of the opinion of writer.

Unfortunately you cant erase the history warna you would have done that by now and history is

Bhutto worked for a dictator for 9 years as his minister in different portfolios. Hence he grew up in General’s nursery even better it was Field Marshal’s nursery
Bhutto politicized ISI by starting the political wing by executive order

Rest is your writers, opinions and more opinions. AP is at least decent enough to accept the history while supporting his leader.

Your celebrity look alikes?

You are supporter of tub of lard, the kalu qatil of landan sharif. Post all nonsense and blame ZAB for evils of others. Read this news also. parhta ja aor sharmata ja apnay kaalay jhoot par.

The political role of the ISI – The Express Tribune

A constitutional petition has been filed in the Supreme Court, seeking the abolition of the political wing of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI). In the Asghar Khan case, the then DG-ISI General (retd) Asad Durani has admitted that funds were distributed by the organisation to manipulate the 1990 elections against the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP). Both these cases relate to the involvement of the ISI in politics and its interference in the election process in favour of those parties considered more patriotic and suitable for promoting a certain kind of ideology. An impression has been created that it was Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, who for ulterior motives established a political cell of the ISI in 1975 and involved it in politics. However, there is evidence that intelligence agencies had been involved in politics since the 1950s.

The interviews and articles of some retired officials point to the involvement of the military in political manipulations since 1957, if not earlier. Their involvement was enhanced with the imposition of martial law in 1958 and they remained involved in political activities during the Ayub Khan era. During Yahya Khan’s rule, the agencies got more deeply involved in politics. They monitored and reported the prospects of political parties taking part in the 1970 elections. Funds were placed at the disposal of General Umer, who was the head of the National Security Council. These funds were distributed to ‘Islam pasand’ right wing parties.

Let us now examine the notorious so-called ‘political cell’ of the ISI. In 1975, during the Balochistan insurgency, the Hyderabad tribunal was set up to try over 50 Pakistanis, mainly Baloch and Pashtun politicians from the National Awami Party, who were charged with various crimes including treason. The evidence against the accused was mainly based on intelligence reports compiled by the ISI. According to the late Naseerullah Babar, Attorney General Yahya Bakhtiar was of the view that since the ISI had no defined role that mandated it to monitor political activities, therefore, these reports would not be accepted by the tribunal. To make the evidence legally admissible, an administrative order was issued, mandating the ISI to monitor the activities of political parties. However, this order did not authorise it to make alliances, distribute funds or manipulate elections.

With every successive military dispensation, the ISI has gained in strength and its involvement in affairs of the state has grown. The Afghan jihad turned the ISI into the most powerful department of the country. The officers of that era were involved in political manipulations for the 1985 elections.

From 1988 onwards, the ISI was actively involved in political manipulations targeting PPP. They had plans for waging jihad and considered Benazir Bhutto a hurdle in its plans. The military was also actively involved in political activities throughout General Pervez Musharraf’s rule.

In 1989, Benazir Bhutto constituted the Zulfikar Commission to review the workings of the intelligence agencies. The Commission recommended that the ISI should not be entrusted with formulation of foreign policy and should be relieved of responsibilities related to political matters. These recommendations were never implemented.

The 1975 order should be withdrawn by the government. The ISI should realise that with a vibrant media and an active judiciary, political wheeling and dealing cannot remain hidden. The ISI is an efficient and well-organised agency. It should not undertake functions beyond its charter. There has to be a paradigm shift in its functioning that corresponds to the changing environment.

Published in The Express Tribune, March 18th, 2012.

Decent_6Chora · September 19, 2014, 9:41pm

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hahahaa you are funny Dino. Ghussey main tu aur cute legtey ho gai?

Yes my friend Pakistani politics taxi drivers, bambino cinema ticket collectors, jahil zamedaroon, zalim chaudhrioon, makkar industrialists, playboys aur pata nahi kis kis sai bhari parhi hai

Sachaydino · September 19, 2014, 9:56pm

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Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies..........∞

TLK · September 19, 2014, 9:59pm

Add to that ready made imported co chair persons

Decent_6Chora · September 19, 2014, 10:00pm

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I love it when something is part of history (and that too recent history) with exact dates and everything and the someone tries to deny that

Here are some pics to brighten up your weekend

http://www.rusconsulkarachi.mid.ru/photos/Tashkent.jpg

oh yeah yeah yeah that and born leaders too.

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Sachaydino · September 19, 2014, 10:14pm

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^^^^Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies..........∞

TLK · September 19, 2014, 10:28pm

Lol. Bhai sanoo ki. Na imran ne hamain kuch dena hai or na BBZ ne. Bus dua karo ke whomever the next pm would be, at least quom se sincere ho. Makkar aur lutera na ho

Decent_6Chora · September 19, 2014, 10:29pm

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acha tu tum Bilawal ko PM banana chah rahey ho :)

TLK · September 19, 2014, 10:47pm

Fatima is six years older than him, or I would have advised him to marry his cousin to bring some sanity in his family.

That poor kid is trying too hard, but his politics is confided in the bounds of rural Sindh. Outside that, he has no chance anyways.

See the dynamics of Pakistan politics is that if you can’t win a seat from Lahore, whether it’s your local constituency or not, don’t even think that you can be a real PM (disregarding all the puppet prime minister). ZAB, BB and Nawaz won seats from Lahore. Imran gave a great fight in 2013, so he is a good candidate. BBZ tou Lahore se 2000 votes le ke dikhaa dain tou main aap kee mustache kaat loon gaa.

jasos · September 20, 2014, 5:34am

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Suna hay kal barish hoi thi hey kissi ko pata

iss per bhi thread open kar dain pleaz :cobra:

lulz](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=lulz)

jasos · September 20, 2014, 5:45am

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iss piece key kaser bati thi bus :cobra:

Future PM of naya Pakistan :cb:

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Shak · September 20, 2014, 7:39am

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DC6 on a roll

Captain1 · September 20, 2014, 10:33pm

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Your celebrity look alikes?

You are supporter of tub of lard, the kalu qatil of landan sharif. Post all nonsense and blame ZAB for evils of others. Read this news also. parhta ja aor sharmata ja

The political role of the ISI – The Express Tribune

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Let us now examine the notorious so-called ‘political cell’ of the ISI. In 1975, during the Balochistan insurgency, the Hyderabad tribunal was set up to try over 50 Pakistanis, mainly Baloch and Pashtun politicians from the National Awami Party, who were charged with various crimes including treason. The evidence against the accused was mainly based on intelligence reports compiled by the ISI. According to the late Naseerullah Babar, Attorney General Yahya Bakhtiar was of the view that since the ISI had no defined role that mandated it to monitor political activities, therefore, these reports would not be accepted by the tribunal. To make the evidence legally admissible, an administrative order was issued, mandating the ISI to monitor the activities of political parties. However, this order did not authorise it to make alliances, distribute funds or manipulate elections.

kaan jaisay bhi pakro, saamnay se, peechay se ya tang utha ke… pakra to kaan hi na.

Anwer_Pasha · September 20, 2014, 10:37pm

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Aik extension ki khatir , from Liaqtat to Dharna

Anwer_Pasha · September 20, 2014, 11:17pm

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Captain1 · September 21, 2014, 12:41am

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yeah sab jhooti pics hayn, Bhutto to us waqt a’ala taleem ke liye baahir gaye howay thay :chai: