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Once someone told me that one of The Daughters of our beloved Prophet Mohammad PBUP was married to a non-Quraish. but i could not found any reference to it. as far as i know…

1- Hazrat Zainab (RA) was married to her cousin (both of them embraced Islam)
2- Hazrat Ruqaya (RA) was married to Hazrat Usman (RA)
3- Hazrat Umme Kalsum (RA) was also married to Hazrat Usman (RA) (after the death of Hazrat Ruqaya)
4- Hazrat Fatima (RA) was married to Hazrat Ali (RA)

and according to my little knowledge all of the son of laws of Prophet (PBUH) were from The Tribe of Quraish.
if you have any knowledge about the statement that is in BOLD plz share it with us.

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They all were from Quresh (all the Son in laws) but from different families within the tribe of Quresh, like from Banu Hashim, Banu Ummaya and Banu Shams

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thanks TLK :)

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Okay, this is just for the sake of Knowledge too.... did any of Prophet s.a.w's daughter married son of Abu jahal ?

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Peace safaf_0!

1- Hazrat Zainab (RA) was married to her cousin (both of them embraced Islam)
[INDENT]She was married with her (chacha-zad bhai) Hazrat Abu Al’As bin Rabih :razi: who was son of Hazrat Hala :RA:. Hazrat Hala :RA: is sister of Hazrat Khajida :razi: from Quraish.
[/INDENT]2- Hazrat Ruqaya (RA) was married to Hazrat Usman (RA)

[INDENT]She was also wedlock with ‘Utba’ s/o Abu-lahab who divorced her before ‘rukhsati’ because his father (abu-lahab). Our Prophet Muhammad :saw2: wed locked Hazrat Ruqaiya :razi: with Hazrat Usman Ghani :razi: both couples were famous by given nick ‘Sahib Al Hijrataain’ (two hijrat [migrate] walain).
[/INDENT]**3- Hazrat Umme Kalsum (RA) was also married to Hazrat Usman (RA) (after the death of Hazrat Ruqaya) **
[INDENT]She was in wedlock of Abu-lahab’s son 'Ateeba but left her beacuse of his father. After death of Hazrat Ruqayya :razi: our Prophet Muhammad :saw2: married her with Hazrat Usman :razi: Hazrat Usman is from Banu-Ummia (Quraish) and famous by nick ‘Sahib-e-kounain’.
[/INDENT]4- Hazrat Fatima (RA) was married to Hazrat Ali (RA)
[INDENT]She wedlock with Hazrat Ali :razi: in 2 hijri.
Hazrat Ali ibn-e-talib :razi: was brother (chacha-zad bhai) of our Prophet Muhammad :saw2: and He is from Quraish (Bani-Hashim).
[/INDENT]*References: *
a) Serat-e-Mustafa (Zarqani Jild 3)
b) Tareek-ul-Islam (Ahd-e-risalat wa Khilafat-e-Rashida wa ahd-e-bani Ummiya)

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Does history record any of the other daughters having any children at all? Were these all biological daughters of the Prophet (saww)? If they were then who are their descendants as all Syeds trace their lineage back to Hazrat Ali and Bibi Fatima salamullah!

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This is what I read and I could be wrong

Sunnis think that Prophet Mohammed :saw2: and Hazrat Khdida were the biological parents of all 4 girls.

Shias believe that only Fatima was their real child and rest were either the daughters of Khadija’s sister or were from her previous marriage/

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^did Zainab, Ruqaiya, and Umme Kulsoom (ra) then all die childless?

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Great question. I dont know the answer off hand.

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i tried to find answer of your question on web and found this

http://www.islameasy.org/prophet_daughters.php

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At one time there were three girls living in the household of Khadija. Their names were Zainab, Ruqayya and Umm Kulthoom. Zainab, the eldest of the three, was married to one Abul-‘As ibn er-Rabi’ of Makkah. This man fought against the Prophet in the battle of Badr, and was captured by the Muslims. To ransom his freedom, his wife sent to the Prophet, a necklace which at one time had belonged to Khadija, and she had given it to her as a present on her marriage. Abul-'As was set free; he returned to Makkah, and sent Zainab to Medina as he had promised to do. Zainab, however, died soon after her arrival in Medina. Later, Abul-'As also went to Medina, accepted Islam, and lived with the Muslims.

The other two girls, Ruqayya and Umm Kulthoom, were married to Utba and Utaiba, the sons of Abu Lahab and Umm Jameel. Umm Jameel was the sister of Abu Sufyan, the chief of the clan of Umayya. Abu Sufyan, therefore, was the maternal uncle of Utba and Utaiba.

It is not known with any degree of certainty who were these three girls. Most of the Sunni historians claim that they were the daughters of Muhammad and Khadija. According to some other historians, they were the daughters of Khadija by an earlier marriage.

The Shia Muslims disagree. They assert that Zainab, Ruqayya and Umm Kulthoom were not the daughters of Muhammad and Khadija; in fact, they were not even the daughters of Khadija by any earlier marriage; they were the daughters of a (widowed) sister of Khadija. Khadija’s sister also died, and upon her death, she brought the three girls into her own house and brought them up as her own children.

According to the Shia Muslims, Muhammad and Khadija had three and not six children.The first two of them – Qasim and Tayyeb or Tahir – were boys, and both of them died in their infancy. Their third and the last child was a girl – Fatima Zahra. She was their only child who did not die in infancy.

The girls – Zainab, Ruqayya and Umm Kulthoom – could not have been the daughters of the Prophet of Islam. If they were, he would not have given them in marriage to the idolaters which the husbands of all three of them were. It’s true that all three girls were married long before the dawn of Islam. But then he did not violate any of the imperatives of Qur’an at any time – before or after he was ordained God’s Messenger. And Qur’an is explicit on the prohibition of the marriage of a Muslim woman to a pagan.

The proscription of the marriage of a Muslim woman and a polytheist occurs in the following verses of Qur’an:

Do not marry (your girls) to unbelievers. (Chapter 2; verse 221)

They (believing women) are not lawful (wives) for the unbelievers, nor are the (unbelievers) lawful (husbands) for them. (Chapter 60; verse 10)

There are other verses in Qur’an which, without referring specifically to marriage, make it impossible for a Muslim to give his daughter or daughters to an idolater. Some of them are:

…the curse of God is on those without faith. (Chapter 2; verse 89)

…God is an enemy to those who reject faith. (Chapter 2, verse 98)

O ye who believe! Truly the pagans are unclean. (Chapyrt 9:verse 28)

Can a Muslim, even if he is a “marginal” or a “statistical” Muslim, believe that Muhammad, the Bringer and the Interpreter of Qur’an, would give his daughters to those men whom God has cursed; whose enemy He is; and who are unclean?

To a believer, the verses of Qur’an quoted above, are incontrovertible proof that Zainab, Ruqayya and Umm Kulthoom, all three married, at one time, to three idolaters in Makkah, were not the daughters of Muhammad Mustafa and Khadija.

It should also be noted that the Apostle who was very fond of children, never said anything about Zainab, Ruqayya and Umm Kulthoom. The parents give the same love to all their children, and do not make any distinction between them. But he was bestowing encomiums only upon his daughter, Fatima Zahra. Judging by the traditions, he was not even aware that three women called Zainab, Ruqayya and Umm Kulthoom existed.

Ruqayya and Umm Kulthoom were still living with their husbands when a new revelation, the Chapter 111 of Qur’an, came from Heaven. In this chapter Abu Lahab and his wife, Umm Jameel, the in-laws of Ruqayya and Umm Kulthoom, were cursed for their perversity.

The new revelation roused the anger of the old couple, and they ordered their sons to divorce their wives, and to send them back to Khadija’s home. The boys obeyed their parents, divorced their wives and they (the wives) returned to Khadija’s home. Sometime later, Ruqayya was married to Uthman bin Affan. She died in A.D. 624. After her death, her sister, Umm Kulthoom, was also married to Uthman. She died a few years later.

The years in Makkah, after the proclamation of Islam, and the early years in Medina, were fraught with peril for Muhammad. Everyday brought new challenges to him. He put his life in the line of fire as soon as he stepped out of his house. And yet, Ruqayya and Umm Kulthoom are never mentioned as giving any service to their father. On the other hand, Fatima Zahra helped her father in various emergencies, both in Makkah and Medina. Ruqayya and Umm Kulthoom both were many years older than Fatima, and they ought to have cheered and comforted their father whenever he was oppressed by the idolaters in Makkah or was wounded in battles in Medina but they never did.

The Sunni historians have bestowed upon Uthman the g*****loquent title of Dhun-Noorayn which means “the owner of two lights,” because he married, according to them, two daughters of the Prophet, an honor not attained even by Abu Bakr and Umar!

Uthman became the owner of two lights after marrying Ruqayya and Umm Kulthoom. But both of these girls were married to two idolaters, i.e., Utba and Utaiba, the sons of Abu Lahab, before they were married to Uthman. Therefore, each of the two sons of Abu Lahab ought to be called Dhun-Noor – the owner of one light. Each of them, Utba and Utaiba, was the owner of one light which he passed on to Uthman, thus making him the owner of two lights. After all, the lights remained the same; only the ownership changed!

from: http://www.al-islam.org/restatement/58.htm

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I am not too convinved of the authenticity of the information on this website. It was Umamah, cousin of Fatima binte Mohamad, whom Imam Ali married. How could she be daughter of Zainab for then she will be like a grand-daughter to Imam Ali and children born out of her will then be great-grand children as well as children at the same time!

I think Prophet’s linege went ahead purely through the children of Ali and Fatima salamullah.

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perhaps you should stop your contradicting accusations on the messenger of Allah. for all intents and purposes whether the girls were bint Muhammed SAW or not, the same rulings aplied. just give it up

if the girls RA were binte Muhammad SAW we are not asking you to commit polytheism over the issue. please take this out of your mind

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I BEG YOUR PARDON!

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Peace!

There is many differences about the children or Prophet Muhammad :saw2: According to different narrators the numbers of children reached at 12 but on mutual narrations, numbers of children are 6. two (2) boys named Qasim and Ibrahim and four (4) daughters named Zainab, Ruqaiyya, Um-Kalsoom and Fatima. In some others narrations writers added two more names of boys as Tayyab and Tahir. Hazrat Ibrahim :AS: was given birth by Hazrat Maria Qabtiyaah and rest all from Hazrat Khadija :RA:

Some other Muarakeen said the numbers of children are seven 3 boys and four girl. A boy named Hazrat Abdullah who’s nick was Tayyab and Tahir. Muarakeen said Hazrat Abullah was also given birth by Hazrat Khadija :RA:

**Narrated 'Aisha: I did not feel jealous of any of the wives of the Prophet as much as I did of Khadija though I did not see her, but the Prophet used to mention her very often, and when ever he slaughtered a sheep, he would cut its parts and send them to the women friends of Khadija. When I sometimes said to him, “(You treat Khadija in such a way) as if there is no woman on earth except Khadija,” he would say, “Khadija was such-and-such, and from her I had children.” **

The first wife of Hazrat Muhammad :saw2: was Hazrat Khadija :RA: A 40 years old rich lady Hazrat Khadija, nick name ‘Tahira’ daughter of ‘Khuwailad bin Asaad’ and mother name is ‘Fatima bin Zaida’, was from Quraish. Her first marriage was with Abu Hala bin Zararah Tamimi and had two boys (1) Hind bin Abu Hala and (2) Hala bin Abu Hala. After death of Abu Hala she married to Ateeq Ibn-e-A’aiz Fakhrawi and had two child (1) Abdull bin Ateeq and (2) daughter hend bin Ateeq. Her age was 40 years old when he died and then she married to Hazrat Muhammad :saw2: and that time our Prophet’s :saw2: age was 25 years. Hazrat Khadija died in the month of Ramadhan and buried at 'Al-hajoon graveyard (Janat Al-Ma’ala).

All children of Hazrat Muhammad :saw2: were born by Hazrat Khadija :RA: except one son.

Sons:

Qasim was first who born before 11 or 12 years before “Prophecy Announcement (ailan-e-nabuwat)” Ibn Sa’ad said his age was 2 year but Ilama Ghalabi said he lived only 17teen months. (Allah Know best). The given name Abu Qasim to our Prophet Muhammad :saw2: was because of this child. Hazrat Qasim :RA: was given birth by Hazrat Khadija :RA:

Hazrat Abdullah :RA: was given nick as Tayyab and Tahir. He born in Makkah & also died before 'Prophecy Annoucement (ailan-e-Nabuwat) in infancy.

The last child was Hazrat Ibrahim who born in 8th Hijri at a place name “Aliaa”. The second name of this place after his birth was “Mashraba Ibrahim” and passed-away after two and half months. On that day solar eclips was held and peoples thoughts the solar eclips due to the death of Hazrat Ibrahim but our Prophet Muhammad :saw2: corrected them that solar is sign of Allah and there is nothing to do with the death. Hazrat Ibrahim buried in Janat Al Baqi beside Hazrat Usman bin Madhoon’s :RA: grave.

**Narrated Abu Bakra: In the life-time of the Allah’s Apostle (p.b.u.h) the sun eclipsed and he went out dragging his clothes till he reached the Mosque. The people gathered around him and he led them and offered two Rakat. When the sun (eclipse) cleared, he said, “The sun and the moon are two signs amongst the signs of Allah; they do not eclipse because of the death of someone, and so when an eclipse occurs, pray and invoke Allah till the eclipse is over.” It happened that a son of the Prophet called Ibrahim died on that day and the people were talking about that (saying that the eclipse was caused by his death). **

Daughters:

Hazrat Zainab :RA: was elder among all daughters and she born after Hazrat Qasim. She married to Hazrat Abu Al’as. Hazrat Zainab :RA: died in the life of Hazrat Muhammad :saw2: in 8 hijri. She given two births (1) Hazrat Ali (2) Hazrat Imama. Some said Hazrat Ali :RA: was died in the life span of Hazrat Zainab but Ibn-e-Asakar said the describer of ‘Nasab & Names’ (siblings) said he martyred in Yarmook war.
Narrates said once Najashi of Habsha send a golden ring which stone was habshi. Prophet Muhammad :saw2: given to her. same as a neckless of gold also given to her.

Hazrat Ruquyyia was younger then Hazrat Zainab. like is said earlier she was in wedlock with Utaba, got divorced and than married to Hazrat Usman :RA: She also died when burder war was going on and due to her illness, Hazrat Usman didn’t participated in Bader war. Hazrat Abdullah was their son who died in 4hijri in the age of 6years.

Hazrat Um-Kalsoom was younger then Hazrat Ruyuyyia and she also was in wedlock with Uteeba but after getting divorce she married to Hazrat Usman :RA: She died in 9 hijri after marriage and buried at Janat Al Baqi. She had no children (not given birth to any child).

The last and younger then all was Hazrat Fatima :RA: Her nick name were Zahra and Batool. She married with Hazrat Ali :RA: She was most beloved daughter of Prophet Muhammad :saw2: because of two reasons (1) she was younger among all children (2) she was only child left in the life of our Prophet Muhammad :saw2: Hazrat Fatima :RA: died after 6th months from the death of Hazrat Muhammad :saw2: and she left (5) five childrens (some say six childrens) (1) Hazrat Hassan :RA: (2) Hazrat Hussain :RA: (3) Hazrat Mohsin :RA: (4) Hazrat Um-Kalsoom :RA: (5) Hazrat Zainab and (6) Hazrat Ruqaiyya :RA: .

-Hazrat Mohsin :ra: and Hazrat Ruqaiyya :ra: both died in infancy.
-Hazrat Um-e-Kalsoom married to Hazrat Umar :RA: and had two child (1) Zaid son and (2) Ruqiyya as daughter.
-Hazrat Zainab :RA: married to Hazrat Abdulla bin Jaffar :RA:

Sahih Bukhari Book Merits of the Helpers in Madinah (Ansaar)

**Hadith No. 168 **

Narrated Abu Huraira: Gabriel came to the Prophet and said, "O Allah’s Apostle! This is Khadija coming to you with a dish having meat soup (or some food or drink). When she reaches you, greet her on behalf of her Lord (i.e. Allah) and on my behalf, and give her the glad tidings of having a Qasab palace in Paradise wherein there will be neither any noise nor any fatigue (trouble) . " Narrated 'Aisha: Once Hala bint Khuwailid, Khadija’s sister, asked the permission of the Prophet to enter. On that, the Prophet remembered the way Khadija used to ask permission, and that upset him. He said, “O Allah! Hala!” So I became jealous and said, “What makes you remember an old woman amongst the old women of Quraish an old woman (with a teethless mouth) of red gums who died long ago, and in whose place Allah has given you somebody better than her?”

References:
Zarqani Jild 2 Madraj Al Nabwah
Mirdraj Al Nabwah Jild 2
*Sahih Bukhari Book Merits of the Helpers in Madinah (Ansaar) Hadith No. 166 *
Tareek Ul Islam (Ulad ul Amjaad)
*Bukhari Jild 1 Chapter Tazwij Ul Nabi *
Tareekh ul Islam (Azwaj ul Mutahrat)

*Sahih Bukhari Book Eclipses Hadith No. 170 *
Zarqani Jild 3

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I appreciate your input but i don’t understand what is the link of above verses with daughters of our Prophet Muhammad :saw2:. although the above incident is before proclaiming Nabuwat and these verses have nothing to do with current position. Our Prophet Muhammad :saw2: married to Hazrat Khadija :razi: when His :saw2: age was 25 and Nabuwat arised on Him :saw2: at age of 40. Before Nabuwat Hazrat Khadija :ra: wasn’t muslim. She embraced Islam after the Nabuwait and she was the first lady among all who embraced Islam.

Sahih Bukhari Book Revelation

Hadit No. 3

Narrated 'Aisha: (the mother of the faithful believers) The commencement of the Divine Inspiration to Allah’s Apostle was in the form of good dreams which came true like bright day light, and then the love of seclusion was bestowed upon him. He used to go in seclusion in the cave of Hira where he used to worship (Allah alone) continuously for many days before his desire to see his family. He used to take with him the journey food for the stay and then come back to (his wife) Khadija to take his food like-wise again till suddenly the Truth descended upon him while he was in the cave of Hira. The angel came to him and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, “I do not know how to read. The Prophet added, “The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read and I replied, ‘I do not know how to read.’ Thereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read but again I replied, ‘I do not know how to read (or what shall I read)?’ Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me, and then released me and said, 'Read in the name of your Lord, who has created (all that exists) has created man from a clot. Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous.” (96.1, 96.2, 96.3) Then Allah’s Apostle returned with the Inspiration and with his heart beating severely. Then he went to Khadija bint Khuwailid and said, “Cover me! Cover me!” They covered him till his fear was over and after that he told her everything that had happened and said, “I fear that something may happen to me.” Khadija replied, “Never! By Allah, Allah will never disgrace you. You keep good relations with your Kith and kin, help the poor and the destitute, serve your guests generously and assist the deserving calamity-afflicted ones.” Khadija then accompanied him to her cousin Waraqa bin Naufal bin Asad bin 'Abdul 'Uzza, who, during the PreIslamic Period became a Christian and used to write the writing with Hebrew letters. He would write from the Gospel in Hebrew as much as Allah wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight. Khadija said to Waraqa, “Listen to the story of your nephew, O my cousin!” Waraqa asked, “O my nephew! What have you seen?” Allah’s Apostle described whatever he had seen. Waraqa said, “This is the same one who keeps the secrets (angel Gabriel) whom Allah had sent to Moses. I wish I were young and could live up to the time when your people would turn you out.” Allah’s Apostle asked, “Will they drive me out?” Waraqa replied in the affirmative and said, “Anyone (man) who came with something similar to what you have brought was treated with hostility; and if I should remain alive till the day when you will be turned out then I would support you strongly.” But after a few days Waraqa died and the Divine Inspiration was also paused for a while. Narrated Jabir bin ‘Abdullah Al-Ansari while talking about the period of pause in revelation reporting the speech of the Prophet "While I was walking, all of a sudden I heard a voice from the sky. I looked up and saw the same angel who had visited me at the cave of Hira’ sitting on a chair between the sky and the earth. I got afraid of him and came back home and said, ‘Wrap me (in blankets).’ And then Allah revealed the following Holy Verses (of Quran): ‘O you (i.e. Muhammad)! wrapped up in garments!’ Arise and warn (the people against Allah’s Punishment),… up to ‘and desert the idols.’ (74.1-5) After this the revelation started coming strongly, frequently and regularly.”

Sahih Bukhari Book Prophets

Hadit No. 605

Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet returned to Khadija while his heart was beating rapidly. She took him to Waraqa bin Naufal who was a Christian convert and used to read the Gospels in Arabic Waraqa asked (the Prophet), “What do you see?” When he told him, Waraqa said, “That is the same angel whom Allah sent to the Prophet) Moses. Should I live till you receive the Divine Message, I will support you strongly.”

This is very early Makka Sura, though it referred in the first instance to a particular incident in a cruel and relentless persecution, caries the general lesson that cruelty ultimaterly ruins itself. The man who rages against holy things is burnt up in his own rage. His hands, which are the instruments of his action, perish, and be perishes himself. No boasted wealth or position will save him. The women, who are made for nobler emotions, may, if they go wrong, feed unholy rage with fiercer fule - to their own loss. For they may twist the tortuing rope round their own neck. It is a common experience that people perish by the very means by which they seek to destroy others.

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:smack: aray utba and utaiba are two different peoples from same father, both daughters of our Prophet Muhammad :saw2: were in wedlock with them but ‘rukhsati’ wasn’t done. In case of Hazrat Usman :razi: He was married to both of them (First with Hazrat Ruqaiyya :RA: and after her death with Hazrat Um-e-Kalsoom :RA: ) and thats why Hazrat Usman titled as “Dhul Norain”.

rest Allah SWT! know best.

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^Even before the islam the true believers had an Abrahamic religion, just like prophet Mohammed . None of the Abrahamic religions (Jews, Christians, ...) allows someone to marry his daughers to kufaar (idol worshippers), even before the islam. That is why I ask how Prophet could marry:

Zainab to Abu al-Aas ibn al-Rabiah who was an idol worshipper (polytheism).

Ruqaya to Utbah ibn Abu Lahab who was the son of Abu Lahab (idol worshippers), beofre marrying Uthman. (from what I have read it was a marriage and she was living with the son of Abu Lahab)

Umm Kulthum to Utaybah bin Abu Lahab, he was also a son of Abu Lahab (idol worshippers) and after that she got married to Uthman.

I thought we all agree that the prophet (saw) was a Hanif (Arabian monotheists and follower of the religion of Ibrahim) in the pre-islamic period. In the religion of Ibrahim it's not allowed to marry your daugheters to non-believers, so how could the prophet make such a big mistake? That's why we believe they were not his biological daughters.

I don't believe Khadija (sa) was a polytheist. And I don't believe Warqa Ibn Naufal knew Jibrael better than the Prophet (saww)!

Allah (swt) knows the best. Wasalam

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History speaks itself, I wont go in details except to share that although they were followers of Abrahmi religion and their religion based on 'Ilhami' but as time passed they created their own God i.e. different tribes had their own God for worship like Mannat belongs to Ous and Khazraj, Laat belongs to Takaif Aza belongs to Ghatfaan and worship of Aza was included in 'Irkan-e-Haj' too. The Different tribes had different religion i.e. Rabiya and Ghassan were Chiristian, Kaza'a were also same followers, Hamir, Kanana, Banu Haris or Kanda were jews, Bani Tamim were "Majosi" and some other tribes worshiping starts and there were no rules and rights of anything. That time there were no rules for wedlock. One person can hav many wifes and also can win/lose any females in any bet, most of them kills theirs daughter or buried them alive when they were born etc etc.

References:
availabe on request.

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I thought we all agree that the prophet (saw) was a Hanif (Arabian monotheists and follower of the religion of Ibrahim) in the pre-islamic period. In the religion of Ibrahim it's not allowed to marry your daugheters to non-believers, so how could the prophet make such a big mistake? That's why we believe they were not his biological daughters.

I don't believe Khadija (sa) was a polytheist. And I don't believe Warqa Ibn Naufal knew Jibrael better than the Prophet (saww)!

Allah (swt) knows the best. Wasalam
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because that time the wahdaniyat of one Allah SWT wasn't among them and like i wrote above they were divided in many tribes (these three are major (1) political, (2) army and (3) religious) .

I'll end up here by saying that wasn't mistake it is before the dawn of Islam and ofcourse the daughters as well as their supouses embraced Islam (some of them before Nabuwat).

rest Allah SWT! know best.

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I read your above post as well.

These questions are for you:

Are you saying that the prophet SAW knowingly married someone regardless of his relation (biological or whatever) to them to pagans and committed some kind of sin?

Do you think he SAW would approve something like that since they according to you were not his SAW biological daughters?

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My belief is that if Prophet (saww) was a father/guardian of any of these ladies then he would not have given them to polytheists at all.

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Do you think he SAW would approve something like that since they according to you were not his SAW biological daughters?
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I have researched this topic and I have many reasons to believe why Ruqqaya, Zainab, Umm Kulthoom were not the daughters of the Prophet (saww). I will put some points here:

1) In chapter 108 of Quran it is said that the Quraysh used to call Prophet (saww) "Al-Abtar" or one who has no offspring (since Fatimah was not born at the early part of his mission). Tafsir Ibn Kathri says about the last verse of Sura Kawsar;

"...Ibn Abbas, Mujahid, Said bin Jubayr and Qatadah all said, "This Ayah was revealed about Al-As bin Wa'il. Whenever the Messenger of Allah would be mentioned (in his presence) he would say,Leave him, for indeed he is a man who is cut off having no descendants. So when he dies he will not be remembered.' "

So if the Prophet (saww) had all these biological, living daughters then why was he called one with "no descendants" until the birth of Fatimah (as)?

2) Prophet (saww) was mrried at the age of 25. He did not have any children until he was 29 (some traditions say 30). This means that it is about ten years before the open declaration of baasat (Prophethood) since the Prophet was 40 years of age at time of Prophethood. And it is also known that three daughters were married to Utba, Uteba and Abu al Aa's bin Rab'ee before Prophethood. This means that Qasim plus 3 daughters, if they were real, were born within the period of 10 years from Khadija (as) and got married and already had children. Really does not add up!

3) Where is the mention of these other daughters in the 6 sahi books of Sunni hadith? Fatimah (as) and her merits are recounted under a whole separate chapter.

4) why only the descendants of Fatimah (as) were recognized as Syeds in history until today? There is enormous amount of info in details in regards to children of Fatimah (as), why not the same for the other daughters?

Wasalam,

ramesha