Need some information 4 Ahmedies

[kchughtai]

@crankthatskunk

Mr. KCChugtai,

Ok, let’s test you Mr. KCChugtai,

Tell us one simple thing please; you know when Jesus As was living in Kashmir for almost 90 years according to Mirza.

Was he As a Prophet during that period?

A. Certainly, He was a prophet as long as he was alive.

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Was he given the Wahi at that time?

I have no knowledge on this.

Ok, let’s assume if Jews didn’t know where he disappeared, but surely Allah SWT knew isn’t?
**Or you think even Allah SWT didn’t know either (nauzobillah)? **

Allah is all-knowing, omniscient

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**Can you provide any evidence of the continuation of the Wahi to ISA AS in these 90 years? **

Already answered that

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**Please also tell us, according to Mirza and you Jesus As was alive in Kashmir for 90 years after 3 AD, up until 125 AD, then why there is no mention of this period of his prophet hood in the Holy Quran? **

What should have become part of quran and what not, It is Allah to decide and nobody else. Are you questioning the act of Allah?
BTW, there is mention in quran regarding giving refuge to Jesus (as) and his mother mariam (as) on an elevated place

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YUSUFALI: And We made the son of Mary and his mother as a Sign: We gave them both shelter on high ground, affording rest and security and furnished with springs.
PICKTHAL: And We made the son of Mary and his mother a portent, and We gave them refuge on a height, a place of flocks and watersprings.
SHAKIR: And We made the son of Marium and his mother a sign, and We gave them a shelter on a lofty ground having meadows and springs

Maulvi Sher Ali [Ahmadiyya]: And We made the son of Mary and his mother a Sign, and gave them refuge on an elevated land of green valleys and springs of running water.

So there is some pointer towards his migration and refuge on a hilly land with green meadows and water springs. We think it was kashmir.

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**Did Allah SWT also forgot (nauzobillah) about his As life in Kashmir and failed to mention a single Word in the Holy Quran for this long period of life? **

Don’t you think, your tone sounds blasphemous. Again questioning the act of Allah. Do you think, in Quran, there is detailed life sketch of every prophet from birth till death? There were 124000 messengers. How many of them do we know by name?
How many of the messengers mentioned in the Quran, do we know detailed life sketch with timeline.

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**Why Allah SWT never ever decreed anything for this long life of Jesus As in Kashmir, when 3 years of his ministry from the age of 30 to 33 are mentioned in details in the Holy Quran, including his As birth and his As childhood? **

Again same question.

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**Why Prophet SAW never uttered a word about this period of life of Jesus As when according to Quranic verse 3:61 he SAW was given the full knowledge about Isa AS by Allah SWT? **

hmmm, should I quote the verses. Ok here they are:

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YUSUFALI: The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: “Be”. And he was.
PICKTHAL: Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is.
SHAKIR: Surely the likeness of Isa is with Allah as the likeness of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, Be, and he was.

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YUSUFALI: The Truth (comes) from Allah alone; so be not of those who doubt.
PICKTHAL: (This is) the truth from thy Lord (O Muhammad), so be not thou of those who waver.
SHAKIR: (This is) the truth from your Lord, so be not of the disputers.

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YUSUFALI: If any one disputes in this matter with thee, now after (full) knowledge Hath come to thee, say: “Come! let us gather together,- our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves: Then let us earnestly pray, and invoke the curse of Allah on those who lie!”
PICKTHAL: And whoso disputeth with thee concerning him, after the knowledge which hath come unto thee, say (unto him): Come! We will summon our sons and your sons, and our women and your women, and ourselves and yourselves, then we will pray humbly (to our Lord) and (solemnly) invoke the curse of Allah upon those who lie.
SHAKIR: But whoever disputes with you in this matter after what has come to you of knowledge, then say: Come let us call our sons and your sons and our women and your women and our near people and your near people, then let us be earnest in prayer, and pray for the curse of Allah on the liars.

It was a matter between the holy prophet (pbuh) and Christians of Najran. The christians believed that Jesus (as) is a son of God due to his miraculous birth.
Allah compared Jesus (as) with Adam (as) with respect to their births.
No question of death or ascension of Jesus (as).

As far as “full” knowledge is concerned, there is no word in the ayat that can be translated to “full”.

Word by word translation should be .. “After what has come to thee of knowledge”. More than that Allah knows best.

Anyways, the comparison of Jesus’ [as] birth with that Adam [as] was presented as ‘Hujjat’ to christians.

here is a list of some references on death of Jesus.