Need marriage advice

:salam:,

I have so much going through my mind and don’t know where to begin… It is time for me to get married. I have been in US since 9th grade, went to high school here, got a bachelors, got an MBA, and have been working for a few years. Even though it is getting to a point where I would have spent majority of my life in US, I am still very connected to and prefer many of the desi culture and traditions. I live with my brother and his wife; talk to my parents almost every day, who will be moving here this year and will be living with us as well.

I have been very focused on career and since I live in a relative small, mostly gora town, I haven’t had much exposure to many desi girls. This is one of the reasons why my parents are looking for girls in Pakistan. I consider myself almost a workaholic (or more of a “computeraholic”). :alhamd:, I don’t have any financial issues and :insh: the future is looking very bright as well. Since I tend to spend a lot of time working, I had requested that my parents look for a doctor. Given the number of doctors in my family and that generally come to US, I know that their career path is already figured out and there is a good chance that she will quickly adjust to the system. Plus, I think that her being so well educated would have a very positive affect on the children.

So, my first question, working or non-working wife? Many folks have said that a non-working wife is critical for raising good children. I can certainly see how that would make a difference, but I get concerned about the amount of time that I would have to spend to keep her busy. Also, how will things change when the kids start going to school (or even college)? I realize that there is a certain amount of commitment, which I am willing to make. I have also read, and experienced that working girls are generally more confident, which might actually help with the children situation as well. Also, there is less chance that a working girl would fit in our existing family structure, which is very important to me.

Everyone says that the character is important, but no one has explained what that really means. This makes things especially challenging when we are expected to tie the knot without, what I think is, enough interaction. Also, the fact that once you tie the knot going back becomes very tough makes this even more stressful. This is especially true if the girl is closely related to your family. So, what can/should I be looking for and how? Is the idea really that the parents and the rest of the family are the indirect channel?

I have debated having my parents look locally here in US, but then the whole family thing gets me worried (partly stereotype, I know :(). Plus, our little exposure to local desi communities makes this very tough.

I am very analytical and I generally try to learn as much I can before making any decision so I would appreciate any and all input that you can provide. Think of me as your chota bhai/pra (kashar ror :), younger brother) :hehe:

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Marry a girl from back home. Make sure she does not work nor does she intend to work. Working women are scum.

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So you want a wife who should have bright career with additional qualities to produce & raise child(ren)... not to mention she should be able to fit in your family... the additional qualification should be confident, lives on higher moral ground etc etc etc...

and i thought husband-wife relation is all about love, companionship and friendship and rest depends on destiny

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chootay bhai, get marry cuz you want to be with someone iSpecial. dont marry for the kids. kids in the picture only make relationship stronger.
but if you dont like that same someone iSpecial's company, same kids will look like an unfortunate mistake.

its my personal experience, no matter who you get, its not hard for ALLAH SWT to change it for you. besides, education dont define us, its use does. but our parent's focus usually stuck on girl's beauty and education.

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You want a highly qualified wife (preferably doctor) because of all the positives which you have mentioned but then you also fear that she might not adjust in your family and she might give good time to the family and raising the kids. You think you can provide for your future family sufficiently and you only want your wife to work so that there is a positive effect on children and your wife does not get bored.

Perhaps you can relax your criteria a bit and any good natured, educated girl with whom you find yourself getting along well would do. Try to have a look in your extended family in Pakistan and if you can talk to the girl, you will know whether you will be able spend the rest of your life with her or not. Your wife can work part time, or she can take off work when kids are young and then go back to work later.

There is always a middle way. First, get your thinking and criteria clear in your mind and then proceed.

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Please don't marry a doctor then expect her not to work, we need female doctors, let them marry men who have no issue with a working wife.

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@Ashy2010 Thanks. I think you summarized my situation very well. That is exactly what I am working on right now: getting my thinking and criteria clear :) Being a perfectionist (and knowing that I am far from it), I generally tend to start with an almost impossible ideal and then work towards something that's real.

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@sarab That's certainly not my intention. Part of what I am trying to figure out is whether I am going to have any issues with a working woman. If so, then I will stay away from a doctor because there is a good chance that she will want to practice.

Lol, a few years ago a buddy of mine pointed out that the women that become doctors, but never practice are not only being unfair to the community in general, but also to the next person who might have become a doctor, but couldn't/didn't because she took his/her spot (you know, the whole merit thing) :)

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You don't need a working wife to financially support you and you don't want a doctor wife just for the sake of getting one. Thus you can try to relax your criteria to include other educated non-doctor girls also based on what other things you are looking for in a girl. Prioritise your criteria and identify on which factor you are willing to compromise (e.g. will an older girl be acceptable to you if she meets all your other requirements?). I know a family whose son is now 36 and they have this strict requirement of doctor (along with other requirements) and they are not willing to compromise on this 'doctor' factor although they found many good non-doctor yet educated girls who met all their other requirements.

First clear your thinking and then discuss this with your family to make necessary revisions in the criteria according to their requirements. Often disagreements arises with the family when they start considering girls.

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Heyy, don’t cross doctors off the list completely! :pcg:I think a doctor would fit your criteria very well, as long as she mainatined a balance between work life and family life (and to all you cynical people out there it IS possible :barbie:)

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Lol. I am not against doctors. Its just that such criteria restricts the opportunities available to a person. Overall, a person should be good irrespective of his/ her education.

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my head hurts. :mudhosh:

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Balancing a career and a home is not impossible... why do men feel theyll always have to pick between a working woman or a stay-at-home wife? Working women are and can be great DIL's and mothers and so can stay-at-home wives.

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In my opinion, I will suggest you to find desi girl in US. You have spent significant time in US and bringing girl from back home will definitely give you problem.

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You've spent a significant time in the USA. You still need ESL classes like woah!

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I think you've got too many expectations.

A working woman and stay at home wife really arent all that different.

A working girl has a lot on her plate but so does a stay at home mom. I think you're wrong to assume you will have to keep a stay at home mom (SAHM) busy because she wont have enough to do. She will have her kids and that is not a job she can punch out of at 5pm. A working mom will also be just as busy trying to balance career and family. So lets get that out of the way...both will have enough going on and you will not be babysitting either.

When desies think of an educated woman...why do their brains automatically start buzzing with "daaktar"? Education comes in more forms than just medicine so broaden your horizons and start to consider other girls with mere MBAs. And MBA will have the same motherly instincts as a doctor and arent any less fertile.

Children need both mother and father so thinking that raising a child will be primarily a woman's job so she needs to be perfect is a bit..................archaic. If you're primarily looking for a mother, then you should ask for medical reports.

I think you need to stop focusing so much on finding a good future mother. You should look for a good partner for you...and thats it.

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English is not my mother tongue, but you can correct my grammar and article.

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okay dude, let me give my 2 pence here

1) working vs non working- there is no right answer, depends on both individuals.what they are like.
2) doctor- there is no guarantee that her residency will be in the city you are in, are you willing to let her career dictate yours for some time, or be okay living apart, which may also mean holding off on starting a family
3) pakistan based vs US based- are you planning on living here? if so its better if she is from here because her family will be in closer proximity.

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oh one more thing, i gathered from your note that you are living with your bro and bhabhi and your folks are moving to live with you too, so you may want to tell the ladies that they will be in a joint family system. the dynamics in such situations change.

and being in a small gora town does not mean you cant meet people in other cities that are close by, it just takes some effort..effort that you will need to make regardless as you have kids and you want them exposed to their parents culture on a broader scale.

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It goes good with Resume, saying my wife is a doctor is good in social circle... and that is why the BRAINS got stuck into DAKTAR...

You are right there are many other things, MBA, M'ed, Ms Economics, Master in (any Language), Home Economics stuff...each have its own benefit, moreover, it seems like being DAKTAR is requirement for job posted in this thread...