Need help regarding rishta

Hi guys, I have been lurking around GS forums for a very long time. I’m hoping to get some feedback about a recent rishta proposal and the events that have followed. I want to see what you guys think. Sorry this will be a long post!

My BIL’s friend has a sister. She is pretty and attractive. She is 20 and I’m 26. We live far away in US from each other. She is pursuing bachelor’s degree and plan to graduate in next two years. I’m doing part-time masters while working full time. My degree program is flexible. I plan to graduate next year.

My family sent them a wedding proposal on my behalf. The initial conversations between our parents started about 7 months ago. Their grandfather was having health issues at that time and he later passed away. There was a break in communication for about a month during that period. After that, conversations started again and the “screening process” finished. Me and the girl exchanged numbers and we begin talking via FaceTime. I liked her personality and think that we are compatible. At that time I and my parents did istikhara but we couldn’t see anything. We asked our local imam to do the istikhara for us. He said that he saw me in his dream in the mosque and asked where the girl is by her name? His interpretation of dream was very positive. We also have another sheikh who did the istikhara which also yielded positive results.

About four months ago, I and my parents decided to pay them a visit to take things further. We flew to their hometown and they were very welcoming. We stayed overnight in uncle’s brother house and left next morning. They mentioned that if things proceed further, they are willing to wed her daughter next year. After the visit I continued my conversation with the girl. We were talking almost twice a week (2+ hrs each time). We have had good understanding and chemistry. Her sister who lives overseas reached out to me and talked to me. Everything was going good.

We invited them to visit us before we left. They (girl and parents) visited us about a month ago. They were happy and praised me and my family. Both of our families had great time during their stay. Before leaving they said that they wanted to do istikhara and see the outcome and will let us know. We didn’t hear a response back from them for two weeks. My parents reached out and asked them and they told us that they couldn’t see any signs in the dream and will keep trying. They also told us that all family members are doing istikhara. We talked to them after a week and they still couldn’t see any signs in the istikhara. We told them about our istikhara experience, and her mom commented that maybe it’s good for only guy’s side and not for both sides. This comment seemed odd to me.

I and girl briefly talked on text during this period about random stuff. I didn’t say anything to her in regards to istikhara. I wanted the communication to follow through proper channels. I did istikhara myself and saw her in a white wedding dress during my dream. This was on the night of Shab-e-barat. I had the dream interpreted by the sheikh and he mentioned that it is a great sign and commented that “she is yours”. I had been praying that Allah grant me the spouse who will be best for me here and thereafter (not necessarily asking Allah for her to be my wife in the prayer).

Fast forward to this week, they called us few days ago and told us that they were not able to see any sign in the istikhara. They further said that this is a great proposal but they are a bit hesitant to proceed further if they can’t see a sign from Allah. We mentioned that one may not be able to see the signs during istikhara and should proceed if they have good feeling in their heart. They said that although they have good feeling and everything seems right, they just want to see a sign. They asked us for another week to see if they can do the istikhara one more time.

They called few days ago and told us that they were unable to see any signs and it is difficult for them to make a decision. They mentioned that they would like to wait for 6 months and try again. Right now they can’t proceed any further and don’t want us our time to be wasted. It has been 7 months since our first contact; I feel that we have been led on. I feel disappointed that my time was wasted and I was starting to develop feelings for her. Her dad was genuinely impressed with me, we have similar occupations. She was communicating with me even after her visit. The other thing is that they have emigrated from Pakistan few years ago. I can tell that money is tight for them when I visited their home. If I were in their shoes, I would not have flown and visited a potential rishta with my wife and daughter if I was not seriously interested. I’m not sure what is going on in their minds. In prior conversations, they said that they rejected a rishta for their elder sister but then accepted the same guy next year. We didn’t go in details.

Maybe they are worried about her education or they have another rishta and are stringing me along. Their responsiveness during communication has always been slow. I can’t tell if it is intentional or it’s just the way they are. I’m baffled and conflicted. I feel sad and really thought she was the one. She was always happy to talk to me. I saw very positive results from the istikhara and was confident that this rishta will happen. Do you guys think it is good idea to persuade them any further or should I move on? I’m back to the beginning.

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:smack: Do they not know how an istikhara works? Or they are just using it as an excuse? Just reading this scenario was making me super annoyed at them. If you really want to marry this girl then wait and see? Otherwise there isn’t really much you can do.

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:confused:

One of my pet peeves is how the Desi duniya has made a mess out of the whole istikhara process. If you read the translation of the dua…in it you are asking Allah to make a matter take place if it’s good for you …or to avert it from you if it’s not in your best interest and to compensate with you something better and to make your heart content with His will. That said, proceed with the action..in this case the rishta…and if Allah knows it to be good for you…it’ll progress with ease otherwise it will come to an end. I can understand waiting a few days or weeks, but to wait 6 months just for a sign doesn’t make sense. Seems you really like her… so is it possible for your parents to talk to hers and negotiate the 6 month time frame…to reduce it? That way you wouldn’t be stuck on her for so long should things not pan out.

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I don’t think they are interested, if they were then they should have moved things forward, its been 7 months already. Istikhara is just an excuse they used to indirectly say we are not interested as they didn’t want to be rude to you guys. You liked her this whole time hence developed feelings for her, don’t prepare yourself for a heartache by doing this please. Still having hope for this & waiting would hurt you more in my opinion. So just try to move on.

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you should send them the translation of istakhara dua. as @redvelvet mentioned, istakhara isn’t something which will give you a green or red light that what to do and what not to do. Its something that pave your way to achieve something if its in your favor. you might not see anything in the dream yet, Allah will make things easier to get it done.

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It is very very disappointing perhaps. Sorry bro..insha’Allah you will get better spouse. Ameen. As for instikhara, it annoys to maximum that..people really don’t understand how istakhara works. Istekhara is a special dua..which we commit ourselves to ask Allah for help with our decision. Not for seeing some sort “dream”. People complicate this istekhara so much so…that..it takes essence out of making supplication to Allah.

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Yes her mother is right, this is possible.spiritual and religious yieldingness does not work in same way for everyone

Yes, you are back to beginning! Forget her! Move on!

One thing that we people keep on forgetting, that we cant let it go until its really final!

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Thanks guys, these are all helpful replies. I have asked my parents to call them one more time and see if we can work something out. We plan to suggest that they consult a religious figure regarding this matter.

I don’t want to wait forever, even after 6 months there is no guarantee that they will see a sign or say yes and proceed further. I will be hurt more after 6 months; I’m trying to avoid that. My family thinks that since she has 2 years to graduate, they are delaying the whole process. Istikhara maybe an excuse. Her elder sister got married while she was in last year of school and it was not a good experience according to the girl. During our initial conversations she told me that she was hoping to have the same college experience as other students. We are willing to work with them to complete her education on time. I hinted couple of options while talking to her few months ago. We can’t layout all the details unless they accept the proposal first. I told her that I do want my future wife to have at least a bachelor’s degree. I was going to bear the cost of her education if we were to marry but I didn’t tell her that yet.

During last call with my family, they mentioned that it is a good proposal and I will have easy time finding another girl but it will be difficult for them to find a similar rishta. They also said that if it is meant to be things will happen and no one can stop it. They don’t want us to keep on waiting. I’m confused why they went this far if they were not interested. Why spend all the time and money to visit us if they are not interested. So far I have not heard any criticism or bad things about me or my family from their side directly or through our mutual contact.

As disappointing as this maybe I guess I have to start over…

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Waiting 6 more months and getting a no will be super disappointing. I say try asking them another time and then move on. Where do you reside?

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It shouldn’t be this hard to get someone to be direct and honest with you. Move on.

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I think you should just move on. It’s disappointing for sure but it wasn’t in your fate. People accommodate several rishtas at the same time and you can do the same. Check out multiple families and if it’s your luck nothing else will pan out and her parents will finally say yes.

I think the family really liked you guys but the education think is an issue. No matter how much guys say they will accommodate girls for education it just doesn’t happen. Marriage is just too big of a life disruption for a seamless education experience.

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Move. On.

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I agree with the others. You’re investing wayyy too much time into something that quite possibly has no future. Move on, im sure you’ll have better options.

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This just an indirect way to say no.

Move on man, there is no use crying over.

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^I don’t think he’s crying, but I don’t blame him for feeling hurt. He had known the girl for a considerable amount of time.

I think it’s really sad if the girl’s family is using istikhara as an excuse. Istikhara should be respected even if one doesn’t implement it. To lie about it is to misuse it; it’s disrespectful. Hopefully they didn’t do that.

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@harpyeagle I agree with other commentators. Read the meaning of the istikhara dua. Understand how istikhara works. Many of us have the wrong idea about the istikhara process.

You’ve done your istikhara (prayer & dua) and felt in your heart to move in the direction of marriage. Now you’re doing istishara (seeking advice) from your Muslim brothers and sisters. My sincere advice would be to use the month of Ramadan to seek Allah’s help and guidance for this matter. Perhaps in Ramadan Allah may show you why the process is being delayed or you may have someone better written for you. Or even Allah may be making the path easier for you in a way you don’t see it. Either way thank Allah, because our Lord knows what we don’t, and He sees what we don’t. :slight_smile:

Just give it one more month, and Allah will guide you to proced on or end it.

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My dad texted her dad yesterday evening that he will call last night. When my dad called at the particular time they didn’t pick up, he left a message. I’m not really expecting that thing will progress any further. At least we tried our best.
@enchanting Rose great advice. I guess I’m holding myself back from the fear of starting over. I have been hurt before and incidents like this make me cynical and more skeptical about people. I have started praying on regular basis and it has helped a lot when I’m feeling down.

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keep it up harpyeagle! Do a lot of ibaadat during Ramadan. Will deffo keep you in my duaa.

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I am sure there would have been no dilly-dallying had you told her this. Rare to find a husband who will finance your education.

Its clear you really like her. Even if you look for another rishta, it will take months and then there is no guarantee that you will like anyone like you like her. 6 months is a long time, why dont you guys ask them to reach a decision within, say, 3 months?

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This is weird. Maybe they are exploring other options too, and want to put you on hold meanwhile. Not good.