Need Advice, Rishta and Compromises

I have been visiting paklinks for long time, probably since, Pakistan was using those dial tone modems.

I would like to ask for advice for from experienced sisters, please respond to the best of faith, and intellect.
I am 27, 1st of three sisters , a doctor from punjab. My sister, whos one year younger to me, got married last year.
While I was 23-24 I was getting couple for rishtas, which were rejected from our side, by joint consent of my parents and me.

My tayas pressurized my parents to get me married in family, which is typical Pakistani zimindar family, where women only eat and sleep and kids are brought up by masi’s while their husbands run parallel affairs on farm houses. (sad but true).my father never agreed.

My parents were well educated and specially my father has supported me alot, to make alot of choices easier. I have grown to be very independent and have made myself mentally prepared to lead single life, I am currently preparing for step exams and planning to move to US.

Now a friend of my mother has setup a rishta last month, which seemed little odd to us because of the way guy approached us. That aunt know their family well.

before i proceed further, I am little above average in looks, height (rest..) honestly speaking.

Now Guy’s parents talked to my parents on phone, turns out he works in qatar and will be seeing us while switching flights, with some of his conditions imposed for meet up.
-He did not want his parents to come, and he insisted to meet my parents outside in restaurant over dinner, (for which he paid).

During the meet up, he also took aside my father for a walk where he clearly stated alot of things, included how financially different both families are, and he conveyed clear message that he will not be taking any financial help from us, in any way. he is the oldest one, with responsibility to three sisters and parents, who will be relying on him for long time. he did mention some of his struggles as well which my father didnt disclosed to us.

He told them he hasnt seen any rishtas yet, he agreed to come as my aunt had laid out some honest grounds on my positives/ negatives. He was looking for house wife, he cleared.

My parents came back home with positive image, and thought to do some of their own investigation.

Investigation revealed, he’s earned himself a degree from a very reputed university of Pakistan and has worked himself a very decent career so far.

In summary Some red flags:

  • He appears very westernized in his looks, very different from his family
  • He does not mind the age, being only 6-7 days older to me, (my last rishtas were 30+ guys)
  • Guys like him usually end up with very pretty girls, i am different
  • for the first time my father has asked me to take this in deep consideration, (i hope this is not because of 2 year rishta gap)
    -these days rishtas are usually coming for my youngest sister.

my concern:
i will end up giving up on my profession, with typical housewife life, in country like qatar. financial part is not a concern.

He has seen my pictures on facebook and as agreed in first meet up he is coming to see along with his family next month.

Please asses this scenario sisters, and advise if i should make a compromise.

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Compromise as in giving up on your career?
If you are preparing for the USMLE and plan on pursuing a residency in USA,I am assuming you are serious about your career and that it is not something to be compromised.
Secondly,you are just 27 as you said.Why do you think you will be living your life as a single?

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No one here can tell you whether or not you should make this compromise. This rishta changes your entire future so this is something only YOU can decide. You are a doctor and had already planned on moving to the U.S. You wrote you are “very independent”. Do you think you’ll be happy living in Qatar as a housewife? You have worked very hard for you career so far…are YOU ok with giving it up completely?

This guy is financially responsible for his parents and his THREE sisters. Does his salary allow him to do this AND give you the type of lifestyle you want in the future? As a housewife, all your needs/wants/luxuries will need to be paid from his salary.

I’m confused about this. What struggles? Why did your dad not share EVERYTHING the guy told him? If you’re considering this guy as a future husband…then you have every right to know ANYTHING that your dad has found out b/c at the end of the day, you are the who will spend the rest of your life with the guy.

Also, you need to find out more about his family’s lifestyles and their expectations from this guy’s wife. You said the guy appeared very westernized which is “very different from his family”. Does that mean his family is conservative? Will his parents/3 sisters expect the same level of conservativeness form the new wife?

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You are still in checking each other out stage, meet up and see how it goes.

Check out his reasons for wanting a house wife, his attitude and yours towards marriage. Most men who want only a housewife, is because they would like to be in control and some women are fine with it. On the other hand, some women want control and for them this might become an issue later.

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So guys who want housewives are controlling, good, never heard of that before. :rolleyes:

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I’m not a female so you can choose to ignore my advice since you are looking for female advice which is perfectly fine:

27 years old unmarried female unfortunately in our backward thinking society is pushing the outer boundaries of what’s considered to be old for a single woman in Pakistan. I’m sorry that this is the case but that’s the mindset most of our people take. You and your parents are aware of this, hence your dad is asking you to consider the ristha seriously because he is thinking it’s high time for you to get married. It will be much more difficult to consider risthas while you’re in residency in the US (which will be the hardest you have ever worked in your life) while they’re in Pakistan. So timing is ideal.

Now a few things about the guy. I’m assuming he is a good looking guy so you’re feeling a bit self conscious. Good looking guys do tend to be more full of themselves and think they can get any girl and sometimes even put down girls, but there are decent shareef good looking guys also so just make sure his personality and mindset and values match yours. You seem more traditional so make sure his westernized outlook doesn’t impact you in any way after marriage–ie him drinking, partying and socializing with other women or asking you to become modernized in ways you may not be comfortable with. All these things should be discussed before marriage. However, because he is eldest and seems to have been through some life struggles already and is committed to taking care of his sisters he might be more mature, family oriented and very decent. We can’t accurately judge any of this, this will be up to you to make that judgement by getting to know him.

And figure out his motivations for why he wants to get married now. Even though he said he wants a traditional house wife, you should still ask him if he would consider you being a doctor. Tell him the benefits of you being a doctor with the context of marriage (how it’ll be extra income to help support both families, can take maternity leave for kids and always go back into the field) but emphasize that your marriage and him will still be first prioirty. Would you be moving to US or would you consider being a doctor in Qatar? Do be upfront and honest with him though about the demands of being a doctor as a trainee (have to stay in hospital overnight, a lot of interaction with men including seeing male patients)–some Pakistani husbands aren’t okay with this hence the epidemic in Pakistan with female doctors not practicing after medical school so just see what his response is.

Tough situation for sure, but you’ll need to decide would you be content in your life knowing you gave up being a doctor. If you won’t be content then you have gotten your answer.

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Yeah agree with Paheli, your dad should be disclosing everything to you. This is not the time to hide things. You’re making a life altering decision and don’t want to make a life changing mistake. Ask your dad to be upfront and honest with you.

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You have to balance things out for yourself. Are you concerned that since your younger sister is now getting rishta’s, you won’t get any since your getting on a bit now (btw 27 IMO is far from old). Or would you rather sacrifice your rishta for your career. It’s a sad/difficult position your in but not too uncommon. As with most 21st century highly educated women, this position is not unfamiliar now. If you really like him, go for it. If not and your career is more important, go for that. Who knows, you might meet a fellow doctor (or other professional) in US and settle down with him. It’s important you follow your own instinct and make your own decisions. After all it is you living that life, not anyone else.

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if your dad is hiding things from you, it could mean that he thinks if you found out what that information is, you might not be happy with it. so, make sure you have your dad tell you everything. hiding things that will affect your life in such a delicate process such as selecting a life partner - is never a good thing.

Just talk to him and let him know that you have to know what happened when he and this guy talked and go from there. Tell him you are a bit concerned, and talking it out with each other will help. who knows? it might not be anything of major concern, and everything will be alright, but at least you will have that piece of mind

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I think you should pursue this rishta. One can change a husband’s views after marriage, but good marriage chances will be less and less as the years pass.

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I say this to everyone when considering rishtas - DO NOT settle. it will never ever bring you peace nor the people involved. do not think that cuz of your age (especially) that you should marry because you might not get any better rishtas. I say this from personal experience, and it’s the same advice I give myself. I will be with someone whom I can see myself having a life with - not with someone just for the sake of getting married cuz I may not be able to do any better later on.. that possibility is always there yes (especailly since I am getting older too) BUT - it is more important for me to be practical and think about myself first, not what society thinks.. but again, these are just my opinions, may not necessarily apply to everybody.

now, with that being said, be practical in your decision too, since love is not a factor here. if you can ignore those red flags, think about it, is it something you can live with? there is a chance he can change those things - but it’s not a guarantee, so for now at least, can you picture yourself living with him despite those red flags? if yes, then say Bismillah go for it !!

if not, then, wait for someone whom you feel 100% confident over.

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DO NOT settle. If there is a shadow of a doubt this guy won’t let you follow your career–and that’s important to you–then don’t just give that up. I know lots of girls in the family that had high hopes of finishing med school/law school/working, etc and because their parents thought they were “older” they married them to guys that moved to Dubai/Qatar and their schooling ended. Life is different in Dubai/Qatar…it’ll have implications on your studies/your life after so take that into account. I know at 26-27 it seems like the chance of a rishta is getting slim, but it’s not the case. Just do your research and if your heart is into this rishta than by all means pursue it, but not at the expense of your education, which you seem to care a lot about

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Wrong place to ask for such advice. The sad truth is those women who will tell you not to settle, most likely compromised on something when they got married.

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It’s a little embarrassing posting something like this online, but in my condition, you just want someone to tell you the right answer, they will go to all types of places, to experienced aunts, friends, psychics or possibly peer baba gs.

It’s been a week since i have been in this confused state, and close to nervous breakdown, whatsapped my friends, laid in my moms arms for hours and then went to pray. This morning not only I got a call from his sisters (first call) but my friends came over for nashta too.

had a detailed discussion, AH i feel very light now.

Medicine was not our choice, getting good marks, made it seem natural, then along the way, it got too serious and professional. My friends are sitting next to me while i am responding back. most of them said “they want to have him, if I am not having him (jokingly)”

I would like to thank you all for responding me back. I liked iconoclast’s opinion, we’ll see how things unroll and I think i’ll take my chances, disucssing with him directly. if we can work out some moderate path ~4 hours work/job that equally good.

I’ll stick to praying part until rest is cleared (i am not a religious person) but this always works.

In the end i’ll just do istakhara and jump!

I have started to have a good feeling about this.

Thank you all again.

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lol no. Not always.

I HAVE seen friends that thought the world was going to end if they weren’t married by 26 so they said yes to the first not completely lame guy that showed up for a rishta and they’re a) unhappy with their married life b) unhappy with their career/lack of career c) divorced.

I think the whole “husband’s mentality can be changed” thinking is dangerous and incorrect. You can go into a partnership (which marriage is) NOT okay with what’s been put out on the table and delude yourself into thinking you can convince someone to change their mind. Yeah, it happens, but going into a marriage and committing longterm to someone hoping that is unhealthy and will most likely lead to unhappiness and disappointment.

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Istakhara istakhara istakhara. Best antidote to forks in the path. But you must ask your father for all the details. You can’t make any judgement without them.

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I second StrangeOne!

Do Isthakhara! Allah will guide you to what would be best for you.

No one here can give you best guidance than him!.

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We got engaged this last friday, it has been/is beautiful experience. thank you community.

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Like did you decide to give up on career? or he gave up on his demand of a houswife?

Need Advice, Rishta and Compromises

^^ this!