Need advice for a friend travelling for a guy

Long story short. She was with guy 1 for a few months, then he left her, then came back for a few months then left again.
Guy 2 comes along-online- from pakistan (shes in the usa) never met, they talk for a year, then break it off cuz he wanted to get married and she kept stalling. His family put pressure on him and found another chick for him. End of that. And all of a sudden she says that she was only with him cuz she just wants to get married, whoever it may be, although prior to that she claimed how amazingly in love she was with him and was a really sweet guy to her.

Guy 1 comes back, promises hes changed etc and gets back together, only to dump her again a few weeks later. My friend pretty much gives up on life, and is terribly depressed at this point. Says how she will never trust a man, wants to stay single for some time, the whole girl-just-been-dumped-typical scene. Literally, 1 week later, Guy 2 comes back saying i need a final yes or no within a few days so i can break off the baat paki with the other chick and marry you, and you have to come to pakistan within a month or 2 max, or forget it cuz my parents want me married now, as my age is such (31). My friend takes 2 days to think about it, says okay and now is planning to leave at the end of november to pakistan to see him and then get married if all goes well.and shes going alone. She is 30 years old, and thinks she is running out of options, came to the us when she was around 15ish, didnt go to high school, speak little broken english, very fobby type. Just a background on her.

The other day i messaged her asking if she was happy etc now considering how her life was over just the past week, and now shes set to get married, happy times indeed and if this is truly what she wants cuz she might be vulnerable at this point in her life. Girl blows up, gets really rude cuz i mentioned guy 1, whom she hates, and havent talked to her since. Shes mad cuz, her words- mujhse sab yeh kyun phooch rahe hai ke mai khush hoon ya nahi? Uska naam tak mai nahi sun na chahti, im sorry ke mai bahut rudely tumse baat kar rahi hoon lelin mujhe uske naam se bhi takleef milti hai. I wanted to be like, you ass, its cuz i care about you and want to see you happy, whats the deal with getting angry over it ? Im sorry i asked how you were.

so, basically, im worried about this chick. I hope they dont kidnap her or use her or something. According to her, she knows him pretty well blah blah cuz shes talked to him for a year.
Im like, you have known guy 1 who lives about 15 min away from you for several years and couldnt pick up on the fact that he consistently lied to you and was an ass, and you claimed he was perfect, yet you trust someone over the internet thousands of miles away, and that he is telling you the truth about everything and is a good guy.
oh, and about where her family stands, she has alot of family issues at home, parents couldnt care less. And in pak, she has 1 sister who lives about 2 hours away from the guy, but she is planning on staying with the guy to see their rehn sen etc and then get nikah done if shes satisfied.
im friends with one her sisters that lives here who is more reasonable than her, but havent talked to her about this cuz i dont want her getting mad at or anything saying that i talked about her business with her.

Should i keep my mouth shut and let her go about her business and wish her well? Or, say my peace about the possible dangers that i see with some tough love?

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A story that starts with that is never one.

Yes. No.

Is this sister willing to listen and help? Does she have a good relationship with your friend? Tbh going all that way and staying with a guys family she has never met is risky imo.

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hain?

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I dont know what the sister has said about all of this. I want to talk to her, but i havent. And their relationship is a typical sisterly love-hate kind.

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What

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what

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I know, what you are thinking. She date with guy one and he lied and now she is trusting guy two who lives thousands of mile away.
She will live with his family, then they decide her future...
I can feel fear.
Bari nazuk sort e hal hai.

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I wouldn't stay quiet, just because God forbid something happens, you'd regret not speaking up when you could have. Sure, she should have the sense God gave her, but some people have the worst judgment. As a friend, I'd express my reservations about her going there alone, point out the dangers, etc. and encourage her to involve her sister in PK - tell her you're not telling her to not explore the potential rishta, rather you think she should do it in a way that protects and preserves her safety. Once you've said your piece, tell her it was job as a friend to speak up, but ultimately it's her choice and all you wish is that she be safe and happy. Done!!!

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how in the hell was she not allowed to go to HS when coming to the US? That’s abuse. :no:

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She didn't want to go to school. And anyway, that's completely beside the point. I am looking for others' thougts on what I should do, not analyze her school choices, lol

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I am not criticizing her choices but saying no to basic high school education is very strange. :hmmm:

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1) Are her parents aware that she's preparing to marry this guy? I understand they may not care, but do they know about him?

2) The sister that lives in Pakistan, does she know that your friend is traveling to Pakistan?

3) Has your friend ever spoken with anyone in the guy's family? His mother? Maybe sister? If she's planning on staying with the guy than he must have told his family about her.

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Please stop her.

she has never seen the guy and neither has any of family members or friends seen him.

Maybe she can visit Pakistan and stay at her sisters place and then go see the guy in real while being accompanied.

It is way too risky to see a guy like that in a different country with only you knowing of the whereabouts.

Tell her about the risk of the guy being a potential murderer,trafficker, rapist...who would come at her rescue? NO ONE since she hasn't involved anyone. And who would she complain to? who would believe her story in case of tragedy...not the Pakistani police i tell you!

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Whats with all the bullet points in your posts? Are you reading 'The Checklist Manifesto'? :)

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*she is planning on staying with the guy to see their rehn sen etc and then get nikah done if shes satisfied.
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*This.
She is going to Pakistan, and will stay with the guy to see their rehen sehen before deciding on marriage? or did you mean to say somethiing else?

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So she has not yet decided to marry the guy but will decide after seeing the guy and his family's rehen sehen. This means that if she is not satisfied then she will come back. in this case, i would say let her go and see if things work out or not, She has in mind clearly that things might not work out and in that case she can always return. From the safety point of view, i would say tell her to first go to her sister's place in Pakistan, try to find out about the guy and his family like if he actually does have a family there or if he's from some gang etc with evil agendas etc. if she finds the guy to be okay, only then she should move to live at his place.
Can you tell if that is the guy's suggestion that she should live at his place or is it something by the girl. Because its very rare in Pakistan that a guy living with his family can have his gf (who he has only met online) stay at his place. So my gut feel is that if the guy himself has suggested this then she should double triple check.

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Another point to take notice of: this guy came back to her asking for a yes or no after his baat pakki is done. He proposed he can break off the baat paki if she says yes to him. Honestly speaking this tells something about the guy's character. In the first place If his baat pakki was done then he shouldn't be asking another girl for marriage. Also, this guy is keeping his options open as he said that he will break off if your friend says yes. Meaning he is still engaged to another girl and would leave her for your friend. I feel sorry for the poor girl this guy has gotten engaged to.

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She's 30. You can't really tell an adult what to do no matter how alarmed you are (the not going to school is kind of showing up here purely by her actions). The best you can do is ask her sister for updates in a casual kind of a way like hey hi I heard so and so is going to visit you soon. I bet you're excited etc etc. If she shows concern you can add to it otherwise it really isn't your business.

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Going back to the guy who has dumped her over & over again, does she even have self respect?