Re: Nawaz urges nation to stop treating India as ‘biggest enemy’
you are saying as if India is full of jobs and are running out of man-power? 
Re: Nawaz urges nation to stop treating India as ‘biggest enemy’
What he said is right!!! We do not have to fall in love with India nor does we have to be in war-like-situation with India... we need to create a working relationship which can solve the issue and not complicate them... NS did that in 1999, when Vajapayee visited Lahore in a bus and JI burned the Civil Secretariat while protesting... right after this visit, the great mushy started his activities and started Kargil War between the countries
Once again I am agree with you.
Thanks God ,one from Lahore is saying something which we always say.
Hope to see Pakistan little better.
Re: Nawaz urges nation to stop treating India as ‘biggest enemy’
The question is , if India is going to reciprocate in words and in her behavior ? On official level India will not spare any chance to smear Pakistan in any international forum.
Re: Nawaz urges nation to stop treating India as ‘biggest enemy’
^^ really?
real question is if he is really serious or it is just his election gimmick. if he is serious and has power to do it then why would india not want good relations. india has always reciprocated well in every friendly offer from pakistan.
Re: Nawaz urges nation to stop treating India as ‘biggest enemy’
He declared today Generals and judges traitors who imposed Martial Law and supported. Going well.
Re: Nawaz urges nation to stop treating India as ‘biggest enemy’
...and so the wheel turns almost a full circle again in Pakistan.
Re: Nawaz urges nation to stop treating India as ‘biggest enemy’
He declared today Generals and judges traitors who imposed Martial Law and supported. Going well.
says someone who enjoyed the full fruits of one such martial law.
Re: Nawaz urges nation to stop treating India as ‘biggest enemy’
1: Nawaz is unlikely to ever become Prime Minister of Pakistan. Chances for his party to even rule Punjab is not certain in future.
2: Every Pakistani head of state tried to normalise relation with India, but all efforts stopped for one reason, that is, India not willing to talk or negotiate on Kashmir (claiming Kashmir as integral part of India).
3: No doubt that open trade with India would benefit Pakistan (actually it would be mutually beneficial), but once relation would get completely normalised without any pre-arranged solution of Kashmir, line of control in Kashmir would become de-facto border of India and Pakistan.
4: Once relation would become cordial with open border and free trade, strong armed forces for Pakistan would become redundant, but not for India (due to their stance against China and their large GDP that is 6 to 7 times more than Pakistan, a big multiple, and unfortunately the difference is widening). That means over time, Pakistan would become weaker and weaker militarily to even defend any conflicting issues with India. This situation in long run would come back to haunt Pakistan if India would start claiming more water from rivers allocated to Pakistan, diverting them towards Indian main land south. Rann of Kutch (possibly oil rich area) is another area of contention between India and Pakistan, and with no military ability to defend Pakistani stance, it would be saying good bye to that too.
5: Pakistan political elites are different than most countries. They are worse kind of parasites. Most are thugs and thieves (especially Nawaz, who is leader of the pack). Weak military in Pakistan would encourage Pakistani thugs into politics to loot and plunder the country more than ever before. It means country economically deteriorating more with time.
[Till now, economical history of Pakistan is that, politicians ruin the economy and when economy becomes too bad, military comes in to stop the rot, stabilise the economy, gives economy a boost, and once job is done, they let the politicians come in, who start the rot again]
Even though many would not like to accept this fact (especially those who are self-appointed religious gurus and their followers), but we have to realise that future of Pakistan do not depend on nationality, religion, ethnicity, culture, emotion, conflicts or rhetoric, but economy compared to India. If Pakistani economy (per head) would become too weak compared to India, for instance, Indian GDP per head becomes 3 to 4 times of Pakistan, Pakistan as a Nation would implode.
Re: Nawaz urges nation to stop treating India as ‘biggest enemy’
1: Nawaz is unlikely to ever become Prime Minister of Pakistan. Chances for his party to even rule Punjab is not certain in future.
2: Every Pakistani head of state tried to normalise relation with India, but all efforts stopped for one reason, that is, India not willing to talk or negotiate on Kashmir (claiming Kashmir as integral part of India).
3: No doubt that open trade with India would benefit Pakistan (actually it would be mutually beneficial), but once relation would get completely normalised without any pre-arranged solution of Kashmir, line of control in Kashmir would become de-facto border of India and Pakistan.
4: Once relation would become cordial with open border and free trade, strong armed forces for Pakistan would become redundant, but not for India (due to their stance against China and their large GDP that is 6 to 7 times more than Pakistan, a big multiple, and unfortunately the difference is widening). That means over time, Pakistan would become weaker and weaker militarily to even defend any conflicting issues with India. This situation in long run would come back to haunt Pakistan if India would start claiming more water from rivers allocated to Pakistan, diverting them towards Indian main land south. Rann of Kutch (possibly oil rich area) is another area of contention between India and Pakistan, and with no military ability to defend Pakistani stance, it would be saying good bye to that too.
5: Pakistan political elites are different than most countries. They are worse kind of parasites. Most are thugs and thieves (especially Nawaz, who is leader of the pack). Weak military in Pakistan would encourage Pakistani thugs into politics to loot and plunder the country more than ever before. It means country economically deteriorating more with time.
So, Cordial and good relations with India is harmful for Pak Fauj? I think Pak fauj is filled with policy makers like you..no wonder there is no peace in South Asia.
For any army to be strong , it does not not need to be in a state of conflict all the time. But why does Pak Fauj need to worry, they have more than 100 "Islamic Bombs" to bomb India?
Re: Nawaz urges nation to stop treating India as ‘biggest enemy’
A stronger Pakistan will itself lead to stronger armed forces. If there are dearth of example then Pakistan can look at its closest ally China.
Re: Nawaz urges nation to stop treating India as ‘biggest enemy’
A stronger Pakistan will itself lead to stronger armed forces. If there are dearth of example then Pakistan can look at its closest ally China.
I think, People in Pakistan are not taught the correct definition of what "Stronger Pakistan" means. Pakistans strength and acheivement is always calculated in terms army, navy and air force, anything else has nothing to do with strength and can go down the river Indus into the sea as long as there is jazba of "jihad" in Pak awaam.
Re: Nawaz urges nation to stop treating India as ‘biggest enemy’
I don’t know that dude, all i know they don’t have bomb blasts every day, neither their citizens goes through the special scrutiny around the world, neither they have to beg IMF, WorldBank, or American’s in our context.. and else. You got the point.
ps. neither all the al-qaeda & Taliban losers found in there cities..
Re: Nawaz urges nation to stop treating India as ‘biggest enemy’
No country has ever prospered with a bitter enemy on the border.
Re: Nawaz urges nation to stop treating India as ‘biggest enemy’
I don't know that dude, all i know they don't have bomb blasts every day, neither their citizens goes through the special scrutiny around the world, neither they have to beg IMF, WorldBank, or American's in our context.. and else. You got the point.
ps. neither all the al-qaeda & Taliban losers found in there cities..
You have to be "brown" to be specially scrutinized, are Indians not brown? As for IMF/WB is considered that is a different problem which probably will not go away no matter how happy relations are with India. They have different separatist movements around their country which aren't loved by media thats why you don't get to see as much. You seem to be suffering from low self esteem than anything else.
Re: Nawaz urges nation to stop treating India as ‘biggest enemy’
You have to be "brown" to be specially scrutinized, are Indians not brown? As for IMF/WB is considered that is a different problem which probably will not go away no matter how happy relations are with India. They have different separatist movements around their country which aren't loved by media thats why you don't get to see as much. You seem to be suffering from low self esteem than anything else.
You need to come out of utopian world of being brown or black. The Indian multinationals companies are buying assets worth billions$ around the world, just alone Tata Communications (division of Tata group) own the world largest Tier-1 IP network connecting over 200 countries including Pakistan. ArcelorMittal the world biggest steal maker with assets over 130 billion$. Well they can buy Pakistan 10 time fold with just one of their biggest company.
As far separatists movements concerned, are you reffering to Kashmir azadi movement hahaha.. or naxalite ? Well i think you don't follow news, just listen to likes of Zaid Hamind. West Bengal's longtime communist government falls in this month elections. Their democracy will take care of movements.
It's not about low self esteem, it's all about reality check. Which American's do gave to Pakistan once in a while, drone attacks from many years our mighty the biggest airforce of Islamic world can't stop them, then came the boots on the ground - well the largest army with nukes didn't know until they left, should i laugh or cry on it?
I wonder if American takes the Islamabad one day, what will be the reaction of "fort of islam".
Chinese don't give a shyt about Pakistan, we are their proxy for India/Americans. The day we starting to show any hesitation for their goals, they will show ...well not show err.. they will give a us a middle finger.
Re: Nawaz urges nation to stop treating India as ‘biggest enemy’
I think, People in Pakistan are not taught the correct definition of what "Stronger Pakistan" means. Pakistans strength and acheivement is always calculated in terms army, navy and air force, anything else has nothing to do with strength and can go down the river Indus into the sea as long as there is jazba of "jihad" in Pak awaam.
Yeah we should learn from Indians with such great living conditions
Re: Nawaz urges nation to stop treating India as ‘biggest enemy’
Yeah we should learn from Indians with such great living conditions
Indians are waiting for Gazwa e hind to happen, so that Pak People can occupy land of Napak and paleeth people and improve their living conditions.
As long as there is Jazba -e- jihad in the heart, soul and mind of Pakistani like you, Pakistan will remain a strong nation.
Re: Nawaz urges nation to stop treating India as ‘biggest enemy’
Jaag Punjab Jaag aur is ganjey ko nikaal.
Re: Nawaz urges nation to stop treating India as ‘biggest enemy’
You need to come out of utopian world of being brown or black. The Indian multinationals companies are buying assets worth billions$ around the world, just alone Tata Communications (division of Tata group) own the world largest Tier-1 IP network connecting over 200 countries including Pakistan. ArcelorMittal the world biggest steal maker with assets over 130 billion$. Well they can buy Pakistan 10 time fold with just one of their biggest company.
errr, I am not the one who stops you or other people at airport, you are the one complaining about it, now go back and read my comments. Ask me if you still don't get it.
As far separatists movements concerned, are you reffering to Kashmir azadi movement hahaha.. or naxalite ? Well i think you don't follow news, just listen to likes of Zaid Hamind. West Bengal's longtime communist government falls in this month elections. Their democracy will take care of movements.
Kashmir? Nope, I didn't talk about that. I don't give rats' behind to what champu Zaid Hamid says.
It's not about low self esteem, it's all about reality check. Which American's do gave to Pakistan once in a while, drone attacks from many years our mighty the biggest airforce of Islamic world can't stop them, then came the boots on the ground - well the largest army with nukes didn't know until they left, should i laugh or cry on it?
Why are you mixing things up here? Friendliness with India will not change American attitude towards Pakistan, neither will India twist American arm in Pakistan's favor, these are two mutually exclusive things.
I wonder if American takes the Islamabad one day, what will be the reaction of "fort of islam".
Chinese don't give a shyt about Pakistan, we are their proxy for India/Americans. The day we starting to show any hesitation for their goals, they will show ...well not show err.. they will give a us a middle finger.
Anyone will give middle finger to anyone, there is no "friends" in the geo-politics, its all about interest.
Re: Nawaz urges nation to stop treating India as ‘biggest enemy’
No country has ever prospered with a bitter enemy on the border.
china seems to be doing pretty well with its enemy India on its border