Nawab Akbar Bugti Killed (MERGED)

Reza_Pahlavi · September 11, 2006, 7:14pm

Re: Bugti family feud over suucession and his Rs 670 million annual royalties

Reza Pahlavi:

It is no surprise that Bugti’s are feuding and fighting amongst themselves, but the late Nawab sahib was receiving a HUGE amount of Rs 670 million royalties from oil and gas companies EVERY year!

Now who said he was fighting this war for royalties? Not only was he was a terrorist, but he was one of the greediest terrorists!

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=2776

**Family feud over succession **

A family feud within the clan of Nawab Akbar Bugti is brewing with different claimants to his succession and his property and assets. Nawab Akbar Bugti has left behind several undeclared successors, who are now up to grab the title of Nawab and ownership of his assets. Last year Bugti himself tried to declare one of his grandsons, Brahamdagh, now a fugitive, his successor. He, however, could not muster courage enough to do so against the Baloch tribal traditions as the sub-tribal Waderas candidly opposed it for a variety of reasons. “We cannot give exact figures of the deceased Nawab’s property and assets but these are certainly beyond one’s imagination,” said a senior official of the Balochistan government. Interviews and background talks with officials and Dera Bugti residents reveal that the biggest and the most ticklish question following Akbar Bugti’s killing is as to who would succeed him. The person who will wear the mantle of Bugti clan’s chieftain and Nawab will automatically become owner of the entire property and assets. Notwithstanding, the August 24, 2006 announcement of Bugti clan elders to put an end to the Sardari system, it is an important issue for Akbar Bugti’s family to appoint one…whether the family or people accept it or not. At the outset, there are two strong contenders for the mantle — Bugti’s grandsons Brahamdagh, a 27-year-old son of Akbar Bugti’s third son Rehan, and Adu, a 22-year-old son of Akbar Bugti’s eldest late son Salim.

The slain chieftain had three wives: a Baloch and a Pushtoon, while the third is neither Baloch nor Pushtoon. Out of his first wedlock with the Baloch woman, he had four sons — Salim Bugti, Salal Bugti, Rehan Bugti (all deceased) and Talal Bugti, who had been living in Dubai since long and has now landed in Quetta. From his Pushtoon wife Akbar Bugti had one son — Jamil Akbar Bugti. According to Baloch traditions the eldest son, with the consent of all the sub-tribal Waderas, should be declared his successor, and in this case, Adu is the conclusive name that comes to mind. Being the eldest son of Akbar Bugti’s eldest son Salim, Adu is now flexing his muscles. He is also in the mountain hideouts. However, during his lifetime the late Bugti chieftain promoted Brahamdagh as his apparent successor. He allowed Brahamdagh to issue decrees and give decisions by holding courts, awarding punishment and was fast emerging as the ultimate choice of the late Bugti. In the case of Adu, Akbar Bugti sent him to Sanghar to manage his lands and all affairs. Adu is reported to have never stayed in Dera Bugti for a longer period and is no more well versed with Baloch traditions. Over and above, nobody in the family wants to see him succeeding Akbar Bugti though Baloch traditions say otherwise. According to Baloch traditions, Akbar Bugti’s real strength comes from the writ of Waderas, who hold an assembly to declare a new Nawab — even if it is only a formality. Since coming back home in Dera Bugti, these Waderas (whose family members were murdered and homes burnt), they want to avenge the alleged past misdeeds committed by the late chieftain. In this situation, no member of the Bugti family dared arrive in Dera Bugti. Rather they preferred to stay at Quetta like Jamil Bugti and Talal Bugti and others. When Bugti asked the Waderas last year about their opinion on the naming of his successor during his lifetime, almost the entire fleet opposed Brahamdagh and said it would be against the traditions. However, they dared not challenge Akbar Bugti’s authority and left the matter to him and showed their readiness to endorse his decision. Akbar Bugti, however, delayed the decision and desisted from his plan to appoint Brahamdagh as his successor in a bid not to ignite trouble within the family.

A source said the Bugti Palace is wearing a deserted look with no owner and no member of the Bugti family visiting the palace since Akbar Bugti left it in March this year. One estimate reveals that the late chieftain got Rs 670 million per annum from the so-called deal signed with certain oil and gas companies. It remains to be seen who will own Akbar Bugti’s property and assets if no one is appointed his successor given the family feud.

Lest we forget what “poor” Bugti was about.

mufakkar · September 11, 2006, 9:38pm

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TheRealDeal:

A senior miltary office condoles the murder of the Nawab, comparing it to the death of Quaid

The Bugti I met

I MET Sardar (later Nawab) Bugti in 1973 when he as governor of Balochistan and Mr Khar as governor of Punjab were asked by Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto to join him in Paris where I was the Army and Navy attaché. At the request of my ambassador Sahibzada Yaqub Khan I offered any assistance Bugti Sahib might need in Paris. He showed interest in perfumes and my wife took us to a perfume shop whose owner she knew and who had a large collection available.

Bugti Sahib was dressed the Balochi style head to foot, a dress code he maintained throughout his stay in Paris. In the shop as Bugti Sahib became busy discerning the perfumes he would buy, the owner discreetly enquired whether the gentleman: handsome, tall, lean and extremely graceful with a flowing beard: was the ‘guru’ of Mr Bhutto. She was somewhat disappointed when told that the gentleman was the chief of an important tribe in Balochistan and the current governor of the largest province in the country.

Meantime, Sardar Bugti having made a large selection turned to me and said: “I must buy some for the family also.” When we looked surprised he explained that the current selection was for his guards who he said would lay down their lives for him and his family without asking. “They must come first,” he added. I translated that into French for the owner whose eyes immediately dimmed with moisture.

Later when I asked Nawab Bugti if he would like to have a look around the city, in his usual graceful manner he thanked me first, then said that he had joined the Sorbonne University in Paris at the age of 18 and still remembered the city’s lay like the back of his hand.

Some how the circumstances of his death have touched my heart in the same manner the passing of the Quaid, Nawabzada Liaquat Ali Khan, Khwaja Nazimuddin and Z. A. Bhutto died. May his soul and that of all others rest in eternal peace.

VICE ADMIRAL (r)
IQBAL F. QUADIR
Karachi

http://www.dawn.com/2006/09/06/letted.htm#3

Here is a reply to the above quoted letter

THIS is with reference to Vice Admiral (r) Iqbal F. Quadir’s letter “The Bugti I met” (Sept 6). It was disturbing to read Mr Quadir’s analogy of Mr Bugti’s death with that of the Quaid and Nawabzada Liaqat Ali Khan. I am afraid his was an emotional letter based on just one meeting with Mr Bugti. He seems to have been carried away by the late governor’s charm.

So what if Mr Bugti considered buying a few colognes for his guards. We must not forget that he treated Balochistan as his personal domain throughout his life. He denied its people the right to even the most basic amenities enjoyed by the civilized world and used force to resist any development activity in his area while he and his family amassed great wealth and power. The only thing he did allow the Baloch was to have arms, and loads of them. Perhaps he was afraid that his people would stand up against his self-imposed rule if they were to become more prosperous.

As a result, Pakistan’s largest province and perhaps the richest in untapped natural resources is in a mess, with its people still living in the primitive age. I was also shocked to learn that August 14 was celebrated by his ‘subjects’ by hoisting black flags instead of the Pakistani flag. It is high time that the people of Balochistan enjoyed their due share of the riches of their beautiful province. This can only happen if President Musharraf is supported in his efforts to develop Balochistan on war footings.

HASAN JAFREE
Pennsylvania, USA

http://www.dawn.com/2006/09/11/letted.htm#7

Spock · September 11, 2006, 10:27pm

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mufakkar, nice to see you back on the forums buddy!

mufakkar · September 12, 2006, 1:21am

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^ Thanks Spock. Good to see you too. Its been a while.

umer.ashraf · September 12, 2006, 5:13am

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^^
And that development require the killing of minorities in Pakistan. West or the US will not invest $s otherwise. Anyways minorities are there to protect majorities and to sacrifice their lives and livings when required. They must host the refugees for majorities (to get benefits) and they can be subjected to death either by the Soviets or Americans or even by bounty killers during their hunt for “the most wanted”.

It looks like “pay per death” deal.

‘WAR ON TERROR,’ AFRICAN CONFLICTS THREATEN MINORITIES: UN-ASSISTED REPORT
The so-called “war on terror” as well as African civil conflicts have heightened the threat to minorities around the world, placing groups in Iraq and Sudan most at risk, according to a study released at United Nations Headquarters today.
…
…
“In fact, in war today, the targeting of ethnic minorities is no longer the exception but has become the norm,” Mark Lattimer, Executive Director of MRG, said at the launch of the study at UN Headquarters in New York.
http://www.unep.org/cpi/briefs/2006Jan20.doc

Except for Musharaf, his army, his ML and his supporters, every one in this country is a traitor (at the moment) and must be killed to ensure security and development. And Musharaf is a true soldier in this war-on-terror and the best friend Bush ever had.

As for the economical situation in Balochistan (assuming that Bugti was also a terrosist as he was declared by this government):

GoldenAsif · September 12, 2006, 5:24am

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Nawab Akbar Bugti’s amazing house

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3972/bugti2os9.png

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6306/bugti3kw2.png

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/668/bugti1vr7.png

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/5656/bugti4yn6.png

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7370/bugti5jn1.png
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TheRealDeal · September 12, 2006, 6:48am

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Weeks after the event, Pak media and people continue to condem the Nawab’s murder, and side with the Baloch people:

http://www.dawn.com/2006/09/12/op.htm#2

It is not only in Balochistan that the repercussions have been felt, the whole opposition is up in arms. Even members of the treasury benches have condoled his death. All political activities have been hovering around this unfortunate incident. The public figures are, as usual, divided. On the one hand, there are people like Nasim Zehra who have refused to accept an award from the government, while on the other, there are several who issue one statement after the other to justify the events.

But Nasim Zehra is a noted columnist and one who initially supported General Musharraf, so she can hardly be suspected of not being principled on this issue. This is one indicator that the Balochistan policy of the present regime is not working. If other indicators are needed, one should read newspaper columns and letters to the editor. Even the Urdu press, which is generally opposed to issues of ethnic identity, condemns this particular action. As for the letters, while a few call Akbar Bugti a rebel, most openly condemn his death and call him a hero

The point, however, is that we must differentiate between Akbar Bugti and Balochistan. While Bugti has become an icon of the Baloch at present, he has not always been so. At the same time, while the charge that he did several things in his personal interest may be true, this does not mean that he never did things for the Baloch people.

In any case, no matter what one may say about Akbar Bugti, one cannot argue that there is no problem in Balochistan and that it has not been created by government policies. The argument that foreign powers, such as India, may have a hand in the fanning of anti-Punjab hatred may be true.

However, it is only when there is a problem, when people are dissatisfied and when there is a perception of injustice, that foreign propaganda works. If everybody is satisfied, it does not work.

For now, the government must give a truthful account of the death of Akbar Bugti. If anyone of the functionaries of the state is to be blamed, this should be done.

The government should also apologise unconditionally for the human tragedy involved. To call Akbar Bugti a rebel is to reinforce the idea of ethnic conflict and create an East Pakistan-like feeling. It also amounts to the state not admitting its mistakes which creates and increases anger. Along with all this, a process of peace and reconciliation must start afresh — and this time nobody should use military force to wreck it.

Haris · September 12, 2006, 6:49am

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wow good to see some old members back here

Welcome Mufakkar! :k:
where had you been?

and P_K_C, it seems you were away a while too, welcome :k:

TheRealDeal · September 12, 2006, 6:54am

Re: Bugti Had Asked For It

What are you smoking? The NA member of JWP resigned after Bugti’s murder and JWP member of Senate resigned their seat, even before Bugti’s killing

U talking nonsense as usual :rolleyes:

http://www.dawn.com/2006/09/12/index.htm

Senator Amanullah Kanrani of the Jamhoori Watan Party (JWP) has resigned from Senate. In his letter to Senate chairman, issued here on Wednesday night, he said the attitude of the centre was hostile and discriminatory towards federating units.

Haris · September 12, 2006, 7:11am

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Wow! beautiful!
Luxurious abodes carved in rocky mountains…inevitably reminds one of the nation of Hazrat Saleh A.S., the ppl of Thamud…

Reza_Pahlavi · September 12, 2006, 7:22am

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mufakkar:

Here is a reply to the above quoted letter

THIS is with reference to Vice Admiral (r) Iqbal F. Quadir’s letter “The Bugti I met” (Sept 6). It was disturbing to read Mr Quadir’s analogy of Mr Bugti’s death with that of the Quaid and Nawabzada Liaqat Ali Khan. I am afraid his was an emotional letter based on just one meeting with Mr Bugti. He seems to have been carried away by the late governor’s charm.

So what if Mr Bugti considered buying a few colognes for his guards. We must not forget that he treated Balochistan as his personal domain throughout his life. He denied its people the right to even the most basic amenities enjoyed by the civilized world and used force to resist any development activity in his area while he and his family amassed great wealth and power. The only thing he did allow the Baloch was to have arms, and loads of them. Perhaps he was afraid that his people would stand up against his self-imposed rule if they were to become more prosperous.

As a result, Pakistan’s largest province and perhaps the richest in untapped natural resources is in a mess, with its people still living in the primitive age. I was also shocked to learn that August 14 was celebrated by his ‘subjects’ by hoisting black flags instead of the Pakistani flag. It is high time that the people of Balochistan enjoyed their due share of the riches of their beautiful province. This can only happen if President Musharraf is supported in his efforts to develop Balochistan on war footings.

HASAN JAFREE
Pennsylvania, USA

http://www.dawn.com/2006/09/11/letted.htm#7

Superb and factual counter to the trashy historical revisionism that some people are putting about.

Reza_Pahlavi · September 12, 2006, 7:30am

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[quote=“goldenAsif”]
Nawab Akbar Bugti’s amazing house

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3972/bugti2os9.png

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6306/bugti3kw2.png

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/668/bugti1vr7.png

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/5656/bugti4yn6.png

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7370/bugti5jn1.png
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Now that is what you expect of a man who received Rs 670 million per annum from oil and gas companies, and it is obvious he spent it all on himself rather than his people.](“http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7370/bugti5jn1.png”)

TheRealDeal · September 12, 2006, 8:05am

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If that is indeed his house, the Nawab had very refined taste! :lajawab:

TheRealDeal · September 12, 2006, 8:09am

Re: Bugti Had Asked For It

More proof of your falsehoods

http://www.dawn.com/2006/09/04/top2.htm

The Balochistan National Party on Sunday announced that it decided to resign from the National Assembly, Senate and the provincial assembly and all local bodies in protest against the killing of Nawab Akbar Bugti and the ‘disgraceful’ burial of his body.

The decision was announced by Sardar Akhtar Mengal, chief of his own faction of the Balochistan National Party, at a joint public meeting held at Manan Chowk here under the aegis of the ARD, PONM and the ANP.

TheRealDeal · September 12, 2006, 8:17am

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mufakkar:

Here is a reply to the above quoted letter

THIS is with reference to Vice Admiral (r) Iqbal F. Quadir’s letter “The Bugti I met” (Sept 6). It was disturbing to read Mr Quadir’s analogy of Mr Bugti’s death with that of the Quaid and Nawabzada Liaqat Ali Khan. I am afraid his was an emotional letter based on just one meeting with Mr Bugti. He seems to have been carried away by the late governor’s charm.

So what if Mr Bugti considered buying a few colognes for his guards. We must not forget that he treated Balochistan as his personal domain throughout his life. He denied its people the right to even the most basic amenities enjoyed by the civilized world and used force to resist any development activity in his area while he and his family amassed great wealth and power. The only thing he did allow the Baloch was to have arms, and loads of them. Perhaps he was afraid that his people would stand up against his self-imposed rule if they were to become more prosperous.

As a result, Pakistan’s largest province and perhaps the richest in untapped natural resources is in a mess, with its people still living in the primitive age. I was also shocked to learn that August 14 was celebrated by his ‘subjects’ by hoisting black flags instead of the Pakistani flag. It is high time that the people of Balochistan enjoyed their due share of the riches of their beautiful province. This can only happen if President Musharraf is supported in his efforts to develop Balochistan on war footings.

HASAN JAFREE
Pennsylvania, USA

http://www.dawn.com/2006/09/11/letted.htm#7

A reply from some guy who lives in America vs a senior official who lives and served in Pakistan throughout his while life.

Once again showing those ‘Pakistanis’ living abroad seem to think the murder was justified, whereas the majority of those in Pak realize how much of a blunder it was

Reza_Pahlavi · September 12, 2006, 8:25am

Re: Bugti Had Asked For It

Yup, as I said even Bugti’s **JWP ** has not resigned their seats in the assemblies after the demise of their leader. The BNP is not Bugti’s JWP in case you did not know. Thanks for proving my point.

TheRealDeal · September 12, 2006, 8:29am

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As already mentioned JWP’s single NA member resigned after Bugti’s murder, this is hardly a secret. You need to learn instead of living in your dream world

In addition you also said other opposition parties. When you make a mistake, you should just admit it.

Reza_Pahlavi · September 12, 2006, 8:42am

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In fact he defected to the government ranks months ago. This is what I said in my original post that you seemed to have misread out of your blinding bias.

***But as we can see when it comes to the crunch the MMA, PPPP, PML N, ANP, and even Bugti’s JWP have not resigned their seats in the assemblies as they promised in protest against the actions against the Nawab. ***

Here take another read.

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showpost.php?p=4403795&postcount=499

FACT - Only 2 of the 442 Federal Parliamentarians (MNA’s + Senators) have resigned their seats in protest at Bugti’s killing. As I said words have not been followed up by deeds.

TheRealDeal · September 12, 2006, 9:48am

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A link to your own post? You are ignoring reality again.

Everybody in Pakistan knows he resigned approx1-2 weeks ago, followed by a long speech, that was applauded by even those on the Treasury benchs

It seems you are too far away from Pakistan to know what is gong on.Make up stories and ignore reality if you want, you only make people laugh at you.

Reza_Pahlavi · September 12, 2006, 9:57am

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Which disproves what you claimed I had written, but here is another one for you.

http://www.paktribune.com/news/index.shtml?148888

**Nephew of Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti, the Chief Jamhoori Watan Party (JWP) and Member National Assembly Mir Haider Bugti announced rebellion against JWP and expressed his support for government`s ongoing uplift projects in Balochistan. **

Now could you please present some links to prove your claim?

FACT - Only 2 of the 442 Federal Parliamentarians (MNA’s + Senators) have resigned their seats in protest at Bugti’s killing.