Re: Nawab Akbar Bugti Killed (Merged)
because they are ‘asal te wade’
the only creature which could be tried is either baloch or sindhi or pathan…
punjabi?..tuba..tuba…nauz billah
Re: Nawab Akbar Bugti Killed (Merged)
saavan i've read enough of your posts to determine your Pakistaniat and love for islam (in religion forum). don't need to know any more. :)
Re: Burning of Pakistani flag and dafacing Quaid-e-Azam's portrait
Killing one of the most popular leaders of an oppressed Baloch minority by a 90% Punjabi army may have sounded good in the minds of some generals, but in reality things can be different.
The reaction would be similar if the situation were reversed and Balochis killed a Punjabi chaudri.
Well I will love to hear that some corrupt punjabi leader was killed by army.
Who ever was trying to do his own sardari rather then doing development of his people.
Please go ahead kill all the punjabi leader---- You can't do a bigger favour to pakistan.
What happened in balochistan was bad.
But it was an accident --no one was stupid enough to kill a leader who had lost all his power.
Now only thing which is going to make any difference here is
If Govt. is smart enough to provide people of balochistan with jobs-- specially ex-fighters(who used to get paid by sardars-- and were kept from education)
Burning flag etc is not an issue.. pakistan is their country too.
Re: Nawab Akbar Bugti Killed (Merged)
[quote=“Amorphous”]
saavan i’ve read enough of your posts to determine your Pakistaniat and love for islam (in religion forum). don’t need to know any more. :)/QUOTE
Bulla ki jaana main kaun
Na main moman vich maseetan
Na main vich kufar dian reetan
Na main pakan vich paleetan
sir do din main hi tang ho gaye?
bade be aabroo ho ke tere kooche se nikle
Re: Burning of Pakistani flag and dafacing Quaid-e-Azam's portrait
I patiently await baloch fighters going in and killing punjabi leaders and the joyful cheers from the punjabi people over the killing of their corrupt leaders by baloch liberators. I'm sure that will work out fine.
Re: Nawab Akbar Bugti Killed (Merged)
And now the puppet Dera Bugti jirga stands without any allies or support.
And good of the ISI to act like the terrorist organziation they are by threatening to kidnap people.
http://www.dawn.com/2006/08/31/top4.htm
Bugti’s sons rattled by ‘govt pressure’
By Bahzad Alam Khan
KARACHI, Aug 30: Government sleuths on Wednesday piled pressure on the grieving sons of Nawab Akbar Bugti and asked them to make a hasty trek to the Kohlu district apparently to give credence to the army operation mounted to recover the body of the slain tribal chief.
Two of the three living sons of Nawab Bugti, who was reportedly killed in an attack on his mountain hideout on Aug 26, said they received threatening calls from intelligence agents.
“They told us that if we did not go to Kohlu, we would be kidnapped,” said 23-year-old Shahzwar Bugti, adding that the callers had not identified themselves.
“When I asked the caller why he wanted me to go to the site of the long-drawn recovery operation, he said I must go because my brothers are not going. He then hung up,” said Mr Bugti.
Fifty-seven-year-old Jamil Bugti said the government offered to take him and his brothers to the Kohlu district in the company of a provincial legislator and a federal legislator from Balochistan.
“Our demand is that our father’s body be handed over to us in Quetta for burial,” he said.
Mr Bugti explained that Nawab Bugti’s family members would not want to go to Dera Bugti where a government-sponsored jirga currently held sway.
“And this puppet jirga had the audacity to tell us that only two members of Nawab Bugti’s family could take part in his funeral,” he said.
Military spokesman Maj-Gen Shaukat Sultan said the government had offered to take the bereaved sons of Nawab Bugti to the Kohlu district to witness the recovery operation.
“The invitation was made to them by Balochistan Chief Minister Jam Mohammad Yousuf, Pakistan Muslim League president Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain and secretary-general Mushahid Hussain. But nobody threatened to kidnap them if they do not want to go to the Kohlu district,” he said.
Maj-Gen Sultan declined to comment on a decision of the recently constituted Dera Bugti jirga which ruled that only two members of Nawab Bugti’s family could attend his funeral.
“It is a unanimous decision of the jirga and I cannot say anything about it,” he said.
**But the jirga decision has found detractors even among those who form part of the ruling coalition in Balochistan.
The deputy speaker of the provincial assembly, Aslam Bhootani, said that if the Dera Bugti jirga could enforce such harsh decisions there was no need for dislodging Nawab Bugti from power.**
Re: Nawab Akbar Bugti Killed (Merged)
**Akbar Bugti’s body recovered: **](http://www.dawn.com/2006/08/31/welcome.htm)
Nawab Akbar Bugti’s body has been retrieved from the debris of the caved in cave, a private tv station reported quoting the military spokesman Major General Shaukat Sultan, late Thursday night. The body is in an “advanced stage of decay” Major General Shaukat Sultan said adding that has been examined by the doctors. Burial will take place tomorrow at Dera Bugti, relatives of late Nawab Akbar Bugti are being contacted, he said. (Posted @ 00:02 PST)
Re: Burning of Pakistani flag and dafacing Quaid-e-Azam’s portrait
Sure Just excluding imran khan.
He is very honest person.
Any way bugti made a right choice. I do respect him he said he won't be arrested and he never was.
Right choice because you he didn't want to be treated like nawaz sharif over the media.
For example some one telling him that he was getting royalty from Govt. for no reason.
Why he need to have private army.
etc.
Instead he died with respect.
I don't think any other leader have that courage.
May be its time for baloch “qoom parasts” to work for their own intrests rather then their sardars(like punjabis).
:desimunda:
Re: Nawab Akbar Bugti Killed (Merged)
As of ISPR (a couple of days back), it was not possible to continue searching the cave in bad light, as the cave could have collapsed and army engineers are not trained to work at night, so how Bugti's dead body was found at midnight????
Re: Burning of Pakistani flag and dafacing Quaid-e-Azam’s portrait
Yes, and this one particular organization ‘blamed’ the MMA for the death, so that says alot about their word 
Re: Burning of Pakistani flag and dafacing Quaid-e-Azam's portrait
How about you patiently wait till Altaf Bhai returns to Pakistan and gets shot in the behind... We would need those 'haathi marney walli golli' though.
Re: Burning of Pakistani flag and dafacing Quaid-e-Azam’s portrait
Nope, its very much on topic given that an Indian is jumping up and down.. Its called ** Introspect ** and charity starts at home…
Re: Burning of Pakistani flag and dafacing Quaid-e-Azam's portrait
nstar, can you post the source of the information you just provided?
Re: Burning of Pakistani flag and dafacing Quaid-e-Azam's portrait
By killing a friend of quaid-e-azam, the government had made it clear that Quaid has no worth, even to the government, so why should we expect a common man to respect him???? What those army and ML idiots were thinking when they planned to kill Bugti, a friend of Quaid.
As for Pakistan's flag, if Pakistan's constitution is of "no value" to army and its chief (as they can deny it and claim power when they want) then its not strange to find a few common men who burn a flag of Pakistan. If some court is to punish those people then army must also be punished.
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All this flag burning and procession is going on because most opposition found death of Bugti an opportunity for protest and are doing that.
So much grief on the death of Akber Bugti by so many of opposition political leaders really surprised me. I am wondering why Government is not taking the opportunity of Akber Bugti death and grief shown by opposition leaders to get some political mileage out of it.
I believe that government should start showing on TV and other media regularly (several times a day), what Bugti did to his people (bugti tribe), so that innocent Pakistanis start knowing the truth (that includes the people of Balochistan). In interview, Bugti boasted killing when he was 12. During his lifetime, he killed 100s of Bugtis, thrown many of his own tribesmen out of their home (well, out of Balochistan), put many in his private prison. Torture, confiscation of their properties, rape and murder was part of Bugti’s character.
Obviously, those party leaders who are showing support and grief for him must be in love with him and his ways, thus if opportunity would arise, these leaders would do the same to their people (supporters) what Bugti use to do to his people. (I mean, if they can do that and get away, as Bugti use to do).
Thus, government should use media to show the people of Pakistan the hidden characters of these pathetic leaders (that include Qazi, Fazal, Nawaz ganja, Mrs 20 percent, Imran etc) by comparing them with Akber Bugti whom they love as their hero and thus are arranging gayebana-namaz for Bugti all over Pakistan.
Government should invite ordinary Kalpers and others from Bugti tribes who had rough treatment in the hand of Bugti and let them tell their story on TVs (all channels) and other media. Government should open all media for them to tell their stories. These people should become tool for government to tell the people of Pakistan about Bugti.
People should know that leaders that are shedding so much tears on Bugti death do not care about ordinary people like them (Kalpers and other ordinary people of bugti tribe or for that matter, any ordinary Pakistanis).
People should also know that tribal leaders like Bugti was obstacle in the development of the province (Balochistan) and it is he that decided to go to war with the state just because government wanted to develop Balochistan. Government had choice of making these tribal leaders happy by giving them power and money and stopping all development work in Balochistan or take their challenge and keep development work in Balochistan.
People of Pakistan should know (and should be made to believe) that true inner character and beliefs of these opposition leaders are similar to Akber Bugti and that if they (these political leaders) get the opportunity, they would love to do exactly what Bugti use to do to his people.
Government should keep stressing to people by pointing out that the reason these opposition leaders are so grieved and saddened on Bugti death is because these political leaders consider Bugti their hero and on whose footstep they would love to walk (if they get opportunity). People should know where sympathy of these opposition leaders lies. People should know that these political leaders care for a tyrant tribal chief and have no sympathy for innocent people that Bugti made to suffer.
Government should tell the Pakistanis that supporting these pathetic leaders mean wanting to be treated similar to Kalpers and other bugtis (in the hand of Bugti) and if people do not want treatment like Kalpers and other bugtis (in the hand of Bugti), they should start thinking of avoiding that situation by using their vote wisely.
Re: Nawab Akbar Bugti Killed (Merged)
Mine and Missile attack in Mosque in Dera Bugti
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5049303409155605656
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8582077608872662039
Any comments???
Re: Nawab Akbar Bugti Killed (Merged)
To hell with your conspiracy theories, what are you trying to prove, hes not dead? Then who does the dead body they found belong to, Bugti Jr?
I know youre anti-mush, but you dont have to start praising a traitor to prove your rant against the government
Re: Burning of Pakistani flag and dafacing Quaid-e-Azam's portrait
Spock, did I touch a nerve there? I guess you're not willing to see the same fate for your punjabi chaudris that happened to balochis? You don't like the idea of punjabis being liberated from their corrupt leaders by outside forces or having punjabi villages bombed from the air, do you? Guess what, balochis feel the same way about their own.
Saleem, not only opposition, but ruling party leaders have condemned this latest debacle. And for sure all Balochi leaders are against this action since they know tomorrow they could meet the same fate if they oppose the exploitation of their people. Why don't you mention the number of innocent people killed by army or is that too embarrassing to mention? Or lets talk about the plunder of Balohcistan since gas was discovered there. Or who paid royalties that allowed Bugti, Marri, and Mengal to remain in power? Or how Jamali rules his own people?
The army government is not anti-sardar, it is anti-anyone who opposes them and their cronies, be it sardar, mullah, or secular.
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If Bugti is traitor for killing fellow Pakistanis, what is Army for killing fellow Pakistanis? So far Bugti's actions have not resulted in disintegration of Pakistan, can't say the same for army's actions.
Traitors are those who destroy a country's constitution. Please learn about this. I wonder what Jinnah would say today on Bugti's death?
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Good picture.
http://www.dawn.com/2006/09/01/top6.htm
Yousuf Haroon says Quaid’s advice on Balochistan ignored
KARACHI, Aug 31: Elder politician Yusuf A. Haroon has condoled with the family of Nawab Akbar Bugti who was reportedly killed in a military operation at the weekend. A statement issued by him on Thursday says that in 1947, just before partition, Quaid-i-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah spoke to an assembly of legislators and working committee members of the All India Muslim League, cautioning them about the road ahead and what was needed to further the needs, interests and governmental goals for Pakistan.
Balochistan, Mr Haroon said, was a sensitive province, and he reminded the assembly that even the British dealt with them with great caution. He advised the assembled leadership to always respect their traditions and to deal with them with love and affection. ‘Honour the Baloch’ and remember with what great difficulty the area has been conjoined to Pakistan.
“It is with great regret that we have witnessed the killing of my friend Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti, contrary to the sagacious advice of the Quaid. This deviation from our leader’s advice does not bode well for the security of our country and causes deep misgivings in my mind.
“I condole with the Baloch nation and with the family of the late Nawab, and urge the government not to follow Imperial rules, and to hand over the body for a public funeral. Let us not forget the Quaid: we are living in a free land and are entitled to our rights.”