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Well i have an italian name... and i have a muslim name too which no one calls me by that.. it is just my middle name... I think there is nothing wrong in that. :)
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lol spaghetti
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or jewish ? 
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^ Muslim bachoN ko jewish keh rahay hein aap? buhat hi afsoos ki baat hai, waisay. :(
Anyway, Maniac baji... u probably got your answer already. The thing is there is a "must" and there is a "recommended". The "must" is that the name should have a good meaning, because that is one of the rights of the child over his/her parents. Its not necessary that the name be in Arabic or Persian or Urdu. It just be one with a good meaning.
The "recommended" part is that there are certain names that are known to be dear to our Creator. That list is commonly known. Names of prophets for one. No compulsion, ofcourse,but something to ponder.
The last is the societal attitudes. People take some time to warm up to unusual names. Depending on which society you live in or your family ties etc, you may want to name your child in a way that is more pleasing to your loved ones. Its not something desi either. Even 5th-6th generation Italian families still name their kids in Italian traditions. Irish do the same. Africans, Chinese and Indians, they all name their kids according to their traditions. Some times, they do tag on a calling name or nick name just to make life easier for their child. The idea is to carry the traditions of your society forward, and keep 'em alive. Naming a child is a beautiful experience. Enjoy!
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mujhay bhee bahut afsos hai 
but it was a great example for the identity 
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No My name is much beautiful than spaghetti 
I think Spaghetti is a chinese name 
Well in a way my sis and bro’s name is Italian too 
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I don't know about hadith but i do know that the trend with converts is that UNLESS they want to go with a more arabic/muslim sounding name...once they convert as long as their name has a "decent good meaning" they keep it..
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Faisal, I am intrigued by something you wrote. "The "recommended" part is that there are certain names that are known to be dear to our Creator. That list is commonly known"
According to muslims, god prefers certain names? Wow!! And I am assuming all those names are Arabic. Do you not find that odd, that in the sea of humanity, God (albeit Muslim God) would choose names for babies that he/she likes from a place where Islam originated not necessarily from the universal pool that it is supposedly so adaptable to?
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^^ whats odd about it. if Allah chose a specific religion as His preferred religion, then choosing specific names as preferred because of their association with that religion and it's identity isnt odd either.
all Arabic names arent preferred. only arabic names with Islamic relevance are.
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Oh I agree with you Ravage. Allah is a god for the arabs. I think most people around the world believe that. No biggie…I just thought that the universality mantra being uttered incessantly here actually might have some logical basis but it is more wishful thinking. Carry on..:k:
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heh.. sorry to burst that nice little theory you had going and reducing you to the same old lines..
you havent proven anything by pointing out that preferred names might be arabic, for since there is nothing illogical about Islam being the preferrred religion for humanity, by extension there is nothing illogical about Islamic names and identities being preferred for Muslims. if they happen to be Arabic, thats happenstance.
and Islam is a lot more universal and encompasses more people in more nations, than that other country specific religion you seem to like
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Whatever makes you happy. As I said, bombastic comments like "preffered religion for humanity" Really? numbers don't back that...numbers back me. I think all religions say that they are the preferred religion for humanity. Means nothing..logically ofcourse.
Your entire middle paragraph is based on muslim perception that islam is the preferred religion for humanity...see the circular logic-itis you are suffering from.
There is nothing wrong with having Arab names....I just found Faisal's point interesting in light of the bombast.
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^ actually untrue..christianity is a lot more universal. You keep filling up the board with untrue facts...do you ever get tired?
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what numbers back you? the fact that it is the preferred religion is a matter of faith. the preferred religion in Allah’s eyes doesnt necessarily need to be the most numerically strong.
no, the ‘bombastic’ statement you were trying to find logical inconsistency was with Islam’s universality, its adaptability NOT its preferability. you sought to find inconsistencies in our faith, but you couldnt. i give you a faith based explanation for an a supposed inconsistency in our faith. and then you hide behind that favourite refuge of yours, when any explanation of a question about faith must necessarily reference that faith.
call it ‘bombast’ or whatever pleases you, but you HAVENT been able to find a logical inconsistency here.
read my post again. I compared it with hinduism. A hindu coming and talking about Islam’s universality is ridiculous when quite frankly the greatest conversion outside of that one country for this religion was maharishi’s frolics with the beatles.
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pathetic man.. is this the way u argue in a public place?? ur arguments dont carry any weight because u have stooped to the level of personal attacks.. even if that guy is a hindu why dont u give him proof of islam’s universality?? dont understand my logic?? see if someone calls u an idiot, u dont disprove it by saying that he is the idiot.. instead u go ahead and show how smart u are… negation of an antithesis never proved a hypothesis..
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desibanda, ravage always has to go the extra mile to show his hatred for hindus to show how pakistani his UP ass is. dont take it the wrong way.
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oh thanks Matsui...err Desibanda
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desibanda, queer, perhaps you should be less selective in your criticism.
Islam certainly is more widely spread across more cultures than Hinduism, and thereby it is inconsistent for a Hindu to put down Islam on the basis of adaptability. re your idiot example, if one comes in and tries to put me down for being an idiot, if I can demonstrate greater idiocy on his part on the same issue I've killed his point.
queer if you've been monitoring me so closely, you'd also know that I never bring in other faiths unless to make a point to adherents of that faith, in answer to their points against my own. as you say, those who live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.