Nailpolish and salat

[Sa1eem]

Re: Nailpolish and salat

@psyah

Peace Sa1eem

It’s not about whether the child chooses to stick with what his parents have given him or not … it is do with the opportunities that are open to him after being raised in a certain climate … even if he wants to change it will be much harder for him … That is the level of judgement given by Allah (SWT) … Also you made no attempt to explain sadqah jariya - if you are correct then why is it that sadqah jariya is a reality? Surely why should one person be given rewards for the acts of another?

Brother Peace. I also believe that people would be judged after taking into account opportunities, background and efforts. No argument here. As for sadqah-e-Jariya, I do not know what that has to do with present discussion.

Yes a murderer deserves punishment, but do you think that punishment will be the same if the murder was done by a scholar as opposed to a lay person? Of course not … the scholars aught to know better … Likewise … all people are judged according to their circumstances. They will not always be given full blame … but it will be apportioned to all people. This is why we have a duty to society it is because our actions impact society all the time in the ways we know or do not know.

I also believe that punishments and rewards would depend on various factors (environment, background, efforts, opportunity, acquired knowledge, etc). Anyhow, I do not believe that ignorance is any excuse in front of Allah when it comes to ‘universal justice’. Thus, I believe punishment for murderer would not take into account scholarly knowledge, rather would take into account state of murderers mind, reasons (of murder) and related knowledge.

Yes and we are judged on our efforts - not our achievements … which is a blessing from Allah (SWT) … so if a person “tries” to do good as opposed to a person who merely does “good” without trying the one who tries gets more reward and the one who does not try is expected to try to do more good according to his capability.

But note this that no one will enter Jannah except by the Mercy of Allah (SWT).

I agree with you that a person would be judged on their efforts and not on achievements (as what I believe … Allah knows best). Anyhow, I completely agree that a person would enter Jannah due to Mercy of Allah and not due to his/her efforts, achievements, or whatever.

@psyah

I am amazed that you feel you are the one learning the deen for yourself and I am the one following scholars blindly … Rather you have admitted in your post that you “feel” such and such a fabrication without putting any effort in to verify it. Also, you are the one who uses translations made by scholars - using falsely translated ayat without doing your own research and learning Arabic for yourself …

From your various posts, I feel you blindly follow scholars (whom you trust), though put effort to learn so that you can justify what you follow blindly. My feeling might be wrong but what I felt I wrote. As for me, I do rely on works of past scholars, but that is only for guidance, and not blindly. I would reject from them what I feel is wrong and accept from them what I feel is right. No one is sacred cow for me other than Quran and Prophet (SAW).

I believe Allah will judge me taking into account my efforts and abilities to understand. Since, I will be answerable to what I understand, believe and follow, not what others (so-called scholars) want me to understand, believe and follow, I have to believe and follow what I understand is right, not others. To me it is ‘munafiqat’ that a person follows something saying that he believes, when he neither understands nor believe, rather he is following someone blindly just because he believe on that person who is not even Prophet of Allah.

As for hadith you wrote [Ali (RA) shaving his head], to me that hadith seems concocted, so I could not believe on it. IMO if I accept that hadith without believing it to be true, I would be guilty of ‘bohtan’ [accusing Prophet (SAW) and Ali (RA) of something I believe they never said], something I would never dare.

As for Quranic ayah I used, how can you say that I used falsely translated ayah? *.

I urge you - if you feel that your scholars cannot earn you any shield or protection by being the ones with knowledge - then I urge you to become as knowledgeable about the deen as they are otherwise you have no one to turn to except yourself. Learn Arabic, tajweed, memorisation of Qur’an, Fiqh to the level of mufti and learn your aqidah - if you are Deobandi then that is Maturidi (Imam Maturidi was a great scholar by the way) …

It is not that I feel, but I believe that no scholars can give any protection. [Note: There are scholars and there are wali-Allahs. I am not talking about wali-Allahs but scholars. As for wali-Allahs, my faith is that, they can become shield on judgment day … and I have reasons to believe that].

As for gaining knowledge about deen and Aqeedah, I believe I have acquired enough, anyhow, learning never ends. As for Tajweed, Arabic, and memorising Quran, they help but are not necessary to know and understand Islam or Quran.

As for learning Maturidi, Ashari, Mutazila, Athari and other aqeedahs, it is no harm knowing about them and learning from them but I do not think it is necessary to stick with one of them or other to know and understand Islam. I follow Hanafi Mazhab because I was born into it and also because I believe it is safer to follow rulings of an Imam unless one can prove any particular ruling wrong or have reasons to accept alternative ruling.

Learn these things if you feel you are solely responsible for your beliefs and actions … if you do not learn them then how you can come here and debate such matters is beyond me.

Chalo, if you think my present knowledge and understanding of Islam is insufficient to debate, than what can I do? I can also develop same believe for you or anyone, but would that make any difference? :)*