Nadeem F. Paracha spews more hatred for Islam

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Exactly and your IP example is a good one. Another example is shariah’s provisions on rape. Under shariah you need 4 *male *witnesses (just one of numerous examples of sexism under shariah) to prove rape. This is a ridiculous standard. Rapes don’t occur in bazaars but in isolated places. You are never going to find 4 witnesses, let alone 4 male witnesses. Moreover, DNA testing was developed in the 20th century. That provides the best evidence of whether a rape occurred. Under archaic shariah law DNA evidence is irrelevant in a rape case because shariah’s authors apparently were unaware that DNA testing would be invented. This is a joke. Every place that can afford it uses DNA testing–except the lands of 9th century shariah law.

Who says you cannot have DNA testing. There is Ijtehad that deals with these new things. Islam is not backward you who think it is backward actually are! in thinking that it does not offer solutions. It does! In fact, Quran enjoins people to think , no wonder Muslim scholars contributed to the Western renaissance. Ofcourse they did not reach renaissance directly from Dark Ages.

Most importantly, instead of looking at it negatively, in mnormal cases of sex before marriage, the wisdom of 4 witnesses is that such things should be hidden. If someone does it, it is surely hard to prove, so the point i sto hide it. Allah will decide on teh day of Judgment.

For you the only knowledgable people in Islam you saw were the Swat taliban. Try to to for once broaden your horizon. There are plenty of educated enlightened Islamists that will show what Islam really is. As an example, listen to him, maybe your ideas would change : Yusuf Estes
and this new issue of smoking:

I am sorry to say you are very ignorant about Islam!

There is self policing in secular systems. This is another Islamist myth.

This is your myth. I never saw self-policing similar to the Islamic one. I wonder what the Western people generally would do when their economic condition is as bad as the Muslim countries.

What is the shariah definition of what constitutes IP? Surely shariah, a law allegedly written for all situations and all time, would have laws regarding IP given its importance in the 21st century world.

Why can’t you understand, teh basic set of rules are always the same. They will always be the same. Since humans will always be humans. Shariah does give broad and sometimes detailed guideliens. SO every prblem that will ever come will have a solution in shariah. Secular law is still learning how to manage a society, and you do not question its validity in the current times.

We have given you two specific examples: IP and rape. How about a general issue? What is the shariah solution to the separation of powers? Most successful countries have separation of powers in government. What does shariah say about this?

You are surely not aware of this also. Educate yourslef. This thread being about Dawn’s anti-Islamism, I will not go into these details.

In contrast, the state you refer to allowed slavery and committed what would today be classified as ethnic cleansing when Umar expelled all non-Muslims from Arabia.

What kind of an argument is this? Who practiced the most slavery? The Western world or the Islamic world? Even though it was not outlawed, who became the slaves in the later ceturies with secular laws, Muslims or the Westerners.

Also, I ask you why does the Western world not outlaw adultery and fornication? You think that is ok? Why does it not outlaw single mothers? Why can’t it say that every child has a right to have both parents and that parents have a responsibility to both take care of their children.

So why are Muslims rushing to immigrate to the US, Canada, and Europe?

Because they know their never was and never will be shariah in their lands that can guarantee them an honorable life. Again it is you who is assuming sudan and iran have shariah. They don’t. I never said they did. Iran has a mullah theocracy, not Islam. It is equivalent to mideval pope system.

Plus they also know that the colonial dogs that are ruling them today, will never pursue policies for the benefit of the people. If you are aware of teh current Pakistani politics, you can easily conclude how much foreign intervention we have in our daily affairs.

Islamism has failed to deliver again and again and again…Islamism is so bankrupt it cannot even maintain the standard of living in societies it is implemented in let alone reach its prosperous utopia.

Since Islamism is so bankrupt in everything, why don’t you openly declare you have left Islam.