okay, plz feel free to post up ur favorite.
The following is a very popular one in which I have some questions:
“Yeh sab tumhara karam hai aqa
Key baat ab tak bani hui hai”
Question: How is Mohammad, the spiritually and physically deceased, supposed to help a person on EARTH? How does Mohammad, in any way, provide KARAM to living inhabitants of the world?
Waiting for answers.
oh no..not again
well, i was told to open a new thread last time i asked…
X-com, you won’t get answers from those people who told you to open another thread and ask questions there. Its typical of them to practice such things among themselves and the shew us others off when we questions their authetication and allowance in islam.
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And say: “Truth has (now) arrived, and Falsehood perished:for Falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish.”
(Quran, Al-Isra, 17:81):hehe:
Watcher, with your attitude, you'll never get any answers... if converting ppl. to the right path was so easy, then we would be living in a perfectly islamic world right now..
"*Its typical of them to practice such things among themselves and the shew us others off when we questions their authetication and allowance in islam. *"
and yeah x-com.. those words dont seem very right.. maybe someone will give us an appropriate explanation for them..
Amaar, my friend.
What is it that I said that sent a anger chain-reaction in you?
All I said is that they practice these things and they call it an Islamic thing but WHEN WE ASK THEM: WHY DO THEY DO IT? THEY say, its none of our bussiness. We are not talking about non-muslims, we are talking about muslims inventing their own ways of worship in Islam which is wrong according to QURAN and SUNNAH.
I made a simple statement, I don’t know where you brought attitude in this.
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YOU take it easy.
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----*High Priest-OF-Painful Truth*----
And say: “Truth has (now) arrived, and Falsehood perished:for Falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish.”
(Quran, Al-Isra, 17:81)
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watcher yaar.. you’re hopeless…
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and.. anger chain-reaction.. i dont think so..
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Watcher, muchacho, wuts wit that quranic ayat in ur sign? followed by a hehe-icon??
ThE MuChaChO, man with the plan..
Amaar, I’ll take your words for it. Happy? Hope that made anger go away?
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Amigo, why don’t you like it??? If you don’t I can remove it yaar.
Anyway, topic is “Naats.”
Take it easy friends.
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----*High Priest-OF-Painful Truth*----
And say: “Truth has (now) arrived, and Falsehood perished:for Falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish.”
(Quran, Al-Isra, 17:81):hehe:
remove the hehe icon
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(if you want to)
and yes,
YOU take a chill pill now!
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Laterz compadre..
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ThE MuChaChO, man with the plan..
Here you go my friend, icon removed.
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Would there be anything else?
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BACK TO THE TOPIC PEOPLE! THE TOPIC IS “NAATS”?
Where are the people who are suppose to answer the questions?
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Take it easy.
V~V~VHe came, He saw, He conqueredV~V~V**
----*High Priest-OF-Painful Truth*----
And say: “Truth has (now) arrived, and Falsehood perished:for Falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish.”
(Quran, Al-Isra, 17:81)
Watcher watchabi Munnay kaisay ho. I see you changed yr “devil’s advocate” signature too…shabash
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way to go watchabhi…
sticking to the topic paglu, would you like to contribute your thoughts on naats?
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hi comy, My thoughts are very simple about this whole WASILA issue discussed here over and over but some people dont want/seem to get it.
If i remmember correctly then "ramesha" proved it from quranic verses also brother "Ahmad" put up few useful sahih links too.
commy u said QUOTE "Question: How is Mohammad, the spiritually and physically deceased, supposed to help a person on EARTH? How does Mohammad, in any way, provide KARAM to living inhabitants of the world?"
Quran orders us to never even imagine that shohda are dead......they ARE NOT DEAD. I cant understand if an oridnary shaheed muslim could live amongst us then what about allah's mehboob khatum un nabbi hazoor muhammad sullallah o aalay wa aalahe wassalam.
I was going to take part in this argument but the sentences you said above made me change my mind.....if thats the level or grade you have in your mind for hazoor then there is no point even discussing this issue. QIyamat kay dinn dekha jae ga....
and since my grade level is so LOW, why dont you provide the circumstances of a 'shahada' and a non-shahada after death.
Yes, the shadah never dies, but has the QURAN provided you with proof that the shahadah are in CONTACT with people on earth?
plz, do enhance my neuronic activities by answering the questions above instead of referring to ahmad g's and ramesha's thoughts....thanks.
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NO Point. if you are so eager to know then go and find the old posts yourself. Anyhow i am pretty sure those posts were started by you saying some sabri bro qawwalis were shirk where sabri bro asked for sadqa from hazoor and his sons Imam hasan (as) and Imam Hussein (as)..."bhar dou jholi meri ya muhammad" i think is the one to be precise.
salamun alaikum
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sorry buddy..but those are TOO old..i don't think i was here for 'sabri' bro.
and another question for the 'shahadas':
If they are alive and INTERACTING with our world, how come their widows are allowed to RE-MARRY?
that shouldn't be allowed, since a woman can only have one husband ON EARTH at a time.
oh c'mon ppl...we had a naat's thread going ...why are we backing up now?...
thanks for bringing this up x-commi
3:33
verily allah chose Adam and nuh, and the descendants of Ibraheem and the descendants of Imran above all(of his)creatures.
First tell me this and we can move on.....
1)Was the Prophet one of these descendants?
2)does he have the right to be chosen above all others?
3)What do you think Allah chose him above all others?
4)now what about these descendants was better than other men?(not Prophethood as Ahle-bayt come into this catogary and so does Bibi mariam)
I am not twisting it but a Q&A is always good for getting the point accross.
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Shah Jahan the verse is:
3:33 Allah did choose Adam and Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of 'Imran above all people,-
NO WORD OF DEsCENDANTS IN THE VERSE - you changed it from family to descendants.
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What does your point have to do with the question that X-commi asked? The logic you are using (or I think you are using logic) was applied before and can be applied again to ask you questions regarding Sahabah which you people bash and defame without any solid proofs. I would like to give you an example but I am afraid the thread will take its course to a wrong direction, so I’ll just leave you to that.
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Take it easy.
V~V~VHe came, He saw, He conqueredV~V~V**
----*High Priest-OF-Painful Truth*----
And say: “Truth has (now) arrived, and Falsehood perished:for Falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish.”
(Quran, Al-Isra, 17:81)
kay, we all have our translations...but shah jahan, what does the superiority of the decendent have to do with the widows of the shahadas re-marrying? i mean, i might not be seeing the pt, here....care to explain?
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