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perhaps he is referring to the stone age when they used to handwash everything in the same bucket of water ![]()
Re: Naapaki?
perhaps he is referring to the stone age when they used to handwash everything in the same bucket of water ![]()
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no no he was actually talking about washin machines ![]()
Re: Naapaki?
First of all, lets not disrespect a man of knowledge far beyond what we can ever comprehend. If a doctor told you that, you would believe it in a snap.
He is more learned than you and he has knowledge which you do not, so lets not ridicule him for standing correct in his point.
People watch these religious shows to gain religious insight, about their religion, about their creator, about the proper islamic way of living. A washing machine mechanic can't tell you that...only a mufti will.
So when he gave the reply he did, he gave it from his knowledge of islam, which is much greater than what we have, and thats a fact you have to accept.
If it doesn't make sense to you, and you won't 'buy' it...than that only shows that your religious integrity is in dire need of a sincerity check.
If you can give into innate perceptions that quickly, and into societal norms that fast, then are you really sure you want to learn more about islam?
Because in the end you'll keep riddiculing the man of knowledge even more, so why bother? You'll just end up upseting Allah.
As for the washing napaak kapre with pak kapre, To a certain degree it makes sense. In every cycle of the machine, the water is reused. What guarantee do we have that every single napaak dirt had been cleaned out ?
Another way to look at it is this, there is a famous hadith, usually Scholars put this hadith at the BEGINNING of their books, because its a hadith that is classified as a heavy hadith. It goes somethign like this, "Whoever makes hijrat for Allah and his messenger saw, he has made hijrat for them. ANd whoever makes hijrat for a Women, he has made hijrat for her."
This was said at a time, when the Prophet pbuh heard about a sahabi who made hijrat from Mecca to Medina to marry a women.
But this hadith implies more than just that, today it is a guideline for all muslims, and some scholars have made it 1/3 of Islam.
Especially in a world of pride and honour, and ostentation, you see this hadith being implied. Basically whatever your intention is, thats what counts. You can show off as much as you want, but Allah knows whats concealed in your hearts, and what your REAL intention is.
So taking this Hadith into account you see that althought it was for a specific time period, and was said in a certain situation, it still has a tendency to teach mankind about lets say...buying a car or a house. Are you buying to keep your family safe, or to show off? (so basically is ur 'hijrat' for showing off or for ur family?)
Similarily, the Mufti may have used some aspect of Islam to explain this.
If you really want to find out why, try contacting the mufti, ask your local scholar, research on your own. Read up on the effects of mixing dirty and clean laundry.
Thats called real religious integrity, resorting to name calling and 'mullahs are backwards' is just stupidity, and shows the kind of intellect and reasoning that you base your life upon.
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wrong concept of religious integrity. This concept has made Islam into kind of a highly regulated military type drill and killed the essence of Deen.
The Mufti was wrong or right is immaterial till the time he presents how he derived the verdict. If Hazoor-e-Pak told us to do it like this. Ammana-o-Sadaqan otherwise if he twisted some Hadith and came upon this argument then i think go for the easier path as Islam is an easier deen. However no one in Islam stops you from questioning. That is the difference in between islam and a cult.
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off course at the time of prophet there were no machines still i believe washing together or separately must have been addressed and if not than please avoid hair splitting and accept this new era washing system.
It reminds me the same maswak vs toothpaste debate in Rozah
Maswaak allowed but no paste. Because tooth paste gives taste. what if some company makes a taste less tooth paste. It is very much possible. also if taste of tooth paste comes in mouth is it enough to nullify rozah which is abstaining from eating and drinking.
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^ so does using toothpaste really nulify yourrozah
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First of all the thread started, the one who has watched the show, should clearly state what the question was and what the answer was word by word. I don't think he can produce that. Then there is no point in discussing this matter.
Secondly, Mufti Akmal is an intelligent man and very respectful of others. A very humble man too. Please do not ridicule our Ulema because they are the ones who are fighting for our deen. Not us by sitting on our chairs and typing. So please think before you call names to our Ulema. They are the true Muslims. Without them, you will start seeing a society of animals (jahiliya)....May Allah guide us all.
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I agree, specially with the **he **part...
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Crickerplaya you are right, I wish I remembered word to word he said (bad memory) but then I did basically ask that did anyone heard such thing as to wash napaak clothes separate than paak clothes.
If anyone has a knowledge on such matter, feel free to share ![]()
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Secondly, Mufti Akmal is an intelligent man and very respectful of others. A very humble man too. Please do not ridicule our Ulema because they are the ones who are fighting for our deen. Not us by sitting on our chairs and typing. So please think before you call names to our Ulema. They are the true Muslims. Without them, you will start seeing a society of animals (jahiliya)....May Allah guide us all.
Religion is not fought by issuing unintelligent edicts. It is fought by living it. Whether someone likes it or not 95% of our Pakistani Alims are those who were either forced into it or could not achieve anything else in life and they went into as a last resort. Once they are propelled into something that plays such an important role in our lives they use it to their fullest knowingly or unknowingly so they are no longer labeled under-achievers. This is no accusation from me but a fact of life in Pakistan.
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Fair point. Me as a Canadian born in Pakistan and moved to Canada at the age of 6 with my parents (now 19), do not know much about Pakistan. The thing is when I am here watching these shows or listening to these Ulema especially those who are involved in tablighi work, I begin to appreciate because in the west we do not have much. If the Pakistani public will do their part, then inshAllah, Islam will rise again in Pakistan.
The number one thing that irritates me is when people blame "Mullahs".... I don't know if I have the right to say that but that's my opinion.
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YA RIGHT?
Sorry sister, didn't know atleast have a warning.
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EMM ! there's little uncertianity regarding how to wash naapaak/ unclean in washing machine with other paak clothes , people have different point of views but my mom had her own way of tackling it, she used to clean naapaak part of cloth before it get dried -or- in case it get dried up than clean by handwashing ( only that particular part/area of cloth that was naapak/unclean/ stained , or treat it with stainremover or antibacterial ) before throwing it inside wasing machine , and i've always followed her .
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The number one thing that irritates me is when people blame "Mullahs".... I don't know if I have the right to say that but that's my opinion.
Understandible. Anyone can learn knowledge and dispense it but what matters is how sincere you are to the knowledge you are dispensing i.e. how much of it do you live and secondly just because it is religious knowledge does not mean it supercedes every other form of knowledge. Each one has a different part to play though religious knowledge forms the core of your character in life.
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pray tell, how many other ways of washing clothes are there?
At any rate, this is further evidence of ignorance rampant among those who propose themselves to be aalims of Islam.
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hello non muslim
tum yakeenan na paki ki surat main ghusal bi naeen kertay ho gay
sirf clean hona pasand kertay ho gay
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It reminds me the same maswak vs toothpaste debate in Rozah
Maswaak allowed but no paste. Because tooth paste gives taste. what if some company makes a taste less tooth paste. It is very much possible. also if taste of tooth paste comes in mouth is it enough to nullify rozah which is abstaining from eating and drinking.
if that the case
then it was not said that do Ghusal in case of na paki
just cleaning urself would have been sufficient
cleaning and getting Paki are different things al together
if you or your cloth are clean it doesn't mean that you or your cloth are Pak as well
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Can u plz tell me the source of this *%...
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cleaning and getting Paki are different things al together
if you or your cloth are clean it doesn't mean that you or your cloth are Pak as well
Usman
What is the difference between Ghusal and Cleaning except they belong to different language.
I am no linguist but i am sure there is no word as "cleaning: in Arabic. The arabic equivalent is Taharat and mean to acheive taharat is Ghusal.
Also there is no link between Ghusal and Washing clothres. Ghusal is for person and clothes are not Ghusaled but cleaned.
Please be mindful of these intricacies before posting & do not post incriminating posts towards people like Imran Jaffar. This is pure stupid stuff. You do not have any right to call him non muslim. Take it as a brotherly advice.