Re: Myth about winning 1965 War
What did Europe achieve after Two Great Wars? All powers lost their imperial supermancy, suffered from absolutely massive economic, material and human losses. Despite huge losses and depressing legacy, Europeans nation even after 100 years still honour their brave soldiers and their sacrifices. This is what dignified nations and people do.
They won both the wars and emerged as world most advanced countries and super powers.
Re: Myth about winning 1965 War
People like Sacheydino....who have migrated to USA, living there, do you guys have guts to say Amereeka should stop celebrating 4th of July, considering their glorious and well celebrated independence day means slaughter, massacre, ethnic cleansing of native Indians? Do you have the guts to condemn American independence Day and their extreme pride in their nationhood despite their Civil Wars like you spit venom on Pakistani national days out of racial bigotry?
I did not say stop celebrating Sep 6, the false sense, a greatest lie in the history by imagination of defeating India. I only said time has come to speak the truth. All that glitters is not gold.
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**They won both the wars **and emerged as world most advanced countries and super powers.
Who?
Re: Myth about winning 1965 War
kuch sharam karo kuch haya karo. Who is mocking institution in this video?
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kuch sharam karo kuch haya karo. Who is mocking institution in this video?
I'm not a blind Jiyala that just because Imran had said something about Army. I start hating Army! I know personally perfectly well that kind of tensions existed between Army and him....for a long long time.
You have some bloody shame. Use racism to attack Pakistan Army. Threatens to pull another 1971.
Imran despite all his fault would never ever make any lame racist digs at Army or threaten to pull 1971 if he doesn't get power! Maybe people like you need to learn something from him.
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India was not the aggressor then, it was Pakistan who was fighting proxy war to capture Kashmir. If you were not born in 1965, do not boast nonsense or false pride here based on biggest lies in the history of Pakistan. I was then a primary school student and what gone through in those days before my eyes, was still fresh in my memory.
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this is what you are saying. The truth is much bitter than what you think.
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India was not the aggressor then, it was Pakistan who was fighting proxy war to capture Kashmir. If you were not born in 1965, do not boast nonsense or false pride here based on biggest lies in the history of Pakistan. I was then a primary school student and what gone through in those days before my eyes, was still fresh in my memory.
Please pay attention.
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We stood up to a nation 10 times bigger then us. We stunned them.
So much so, that they never attacked us again. Only back stab
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You did not answer. You stated unrelated fact.
You might aswell tell what you ate in the break fast.... what was on tv... what weather ... or color of they sky.
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I'm not a blind Jiyala that just because Imran had said something about Army. I start hating Army! I know personally perfectly well that kind of tensions existed between Army and him....for a long long time.
You have some bloody shame. Use racism to attack Pakistan Army. Threatens to pull another 1971.
Imran despite all his fault would never ever make any lame racist digs at Army or threaten to pull 1971 if he doesn't get power! Maybe people like you need to learn something from him.
I am quoting the facts here not based on some stupid leader like yours ridiculing army whom you don't see it any wrong, but you feel so much pain when someone else points out the truth.
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Please pay attention. I said
You did not answer. You stated unrelated fact. You might aswell tell what you ate in the break fast.... what was on tv... what weather ... or color of they sky.
No we did not. Pakistan's economy went down the gutter after this meaningless war and after 6 years it broke into two. We lost every thing from this war. khaya pya kuch nahin glass torha barah aanay.
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I am quoting the facts here not based on some stupid leader like yours ridiculing army whom you don't see any wrong, but you feel so much pain when someone else points out the truth.
No I don't see anything wrong because unlike traitorous supporters and members of certain parties, he does not use racial slurs against Pakistan Army and uses 1971 to rub salt in their wounds by always reminding them how he can pull another one if they don't give him power!
The public made sure that Imran paid the price for anti operation rhetoric and opposition to Army at the most crucial time for his party.
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No we did not. Pakistan's economy went down the gutter after this meaningless war and after 6 years it broke into two. We lost every thing from this war. khaya pya kuch nahin glass torha barah aanay.
still did not answer. Let me make is simple.
It was 1 dog against 10 dogs.
Was one dog eaten ???
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No I don't see anything wrong because unlike traitorous supporters and members of certain parties, he does not use racial slurs against Pakistan Army and uses 1971 to rub salt in their wounds by always reminding them how he can pull another one if they don't give him power!
The public made sure that Imran paid the price for anti operation rhetoric and opposition to Army at the most crucial time for his party.
"20 hazar logon ko jama karo, yeh general pants main peshaab kar denge" Yes IK did not say anything wrong because how these generals behaved in actual crisis. That is the main argument of this thread.
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I'm not a blind Jiyala that just because Imran had said something about Army. I start hating Army! I know personally perfectly well that kind of tensions existed between Army and him....for a long long time.
You have some bloody shame. Use racism to attack Pakistan Army. Threatens to pull another 1971.
Imran despite all his fault would never ever make any lame racist digs at Army or threaten to pull 1971 if he doesn't get power! Maybe people like you need to learn something from him.
No, Imran will just attack the National Assembly, and tell people not to pay their taxes so the country collapses - so he can then take over.
Hypocrisy of IK and Pti is astounding!
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India was not the aggressor then, it was Pakistan who was fighting proxy war to capture Kashmir. If you were not born in 1965, do not boast nonsense or false pride here based on biggest lies in the history of Pakistan. I was then a primary school student and what gone through in those days before my eyes, was still fresh in my memory.
I want apologize for my post. I did not know you had seen war.
I always thought you were like Blawal's class mate or some thing :)
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No we did not. Pakistan's economy went down the gutter after this meaningless war and after 6 years it broke into two. We lost every thing from this war. khaya pya kuch nahin glass torha barah aanay.
What nonsense 65 war had nothing to do with the 71 war. It was a totally separate issue of not letting the ruling party take its rightful place in the assembly and the govt. Dont twist the facts.
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India was not the aggressor then, it was Pakistan who was fighting proxy war to capture Kashmir. If you were not born in 1965, do not boast nonsense or false pride here based on biggest lies in the history of Pakistan. I was then a primary school student and what gone through in those days before my eyes, was still fresh in my memory.
I was there just like you in fact much closer to the action than you were, so stop twisting facts and spreading lies. There was no internet or satellite TV in those days so the only info you got was from the national radio stations. Both India and Pakistan were doing propaganda to boost their countryman's morale. Nothing wrong in that. Talking about lies the biggest lie came on the first day of the war when India declared to the whole world that they had captured Lahore and their generals were having tea in Lahore Gymkhana. Hasratein hee reh gaye becahron kee. Bottom line an enemy ten times bigger than Pak at the end was unable to break through Pak's defenses and make any significant headway and that is the biggest sore for army hater and anti Punjabi like you. Regardless of what you say you cannot twist facts just because you were there.
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Victory depends on the set target. I believe we won 65 war by stopping india to get the target they set. I.e to capture lahore. Specially considering the size difference between both.
This is the victory written from the blood of our jawans who stopped Indian tanks on their chest and the civilians whi supported them to the core of their heart. I m proud of them . Had it not be them we may have lost big ground . The unity of that time is Un imaginable now. This loss of unity during 71 was the cause of our biggest defeat and I believe our generals n politicians of that time were responsible for that.
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"20 hazar logon ko jama karo, yeh general pants main peshaab kar denge" Yes IK did not say anything wrong because how these generals behaved in actual crisis. That is the main argument of this thread.
Good going Immy. Couple more shots like that and you will definitely become an 'alternative' you know where.
You still haven't explained how Pakistan lost the war 'terribly'. Where are your facts and evidence? Last time I checked, Lahore and Sialkot was still part of Pakistan.
Calling anything and everything you don't like 'lie' or 'biggest lie' doesn't make your spiteful retorts truth. You and others should get the message.
