My Vision of the World

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Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

In this thread, I would like views and opinions of brothers as to how we can make this world a Safer Place for Ummah and most importantly how we can uproot insjustice from all patches of Earth.

I know the only answer is implementing Islam upon this world or at least Muslim Lands but

HOW?

Which way, what process, what plans?

MY VISION

I am a Pakistani, so I will tell you how I see my country appear as a foundation block in the construction of a Safe, Strong and Exemplary Muslim World.

If I were the Ruler of Pakistan, the very first step I would take was implementing Shari’ah (Islamic System) within the country (we can discuss how Islam can be implemented in a Muslim Country).
In the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Sunnis and Shias both would live peacefully and any attacks upon any sect would be considered Terrorism and the culprits were hanged in public in order to discourage such acts.
(InshaAllah, we will discuss how we can sort out shia sunni conflict in a multi religious society)

The second and the most important step I would take was solving all conflicts with neighbouring countries e.g India.
I would make my efforts to form a Strategic Partnership with India, China, Russia, Saudi Arabia and Iran (in the very first phase).

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The Strategic Partnership

The justification I got from my Beloved Nabi, Muhammadur Rasoolullah sallAllahu 'alayhe wasallam when he made agreements with Jews of Madinah against Mushrikeen of Makkah.

This strategic partnership would be somewhat on patterns of Western Union or NATO which means that these countries e.g would defend each others Interests together against any Invading forces, e.g if USA or Israel attacks China or Pakistan, it would have to face this Asian Block including Armies of Pakistan, India, China, Russia, Saudi Arabia and Iran.
And if you have a good vision of geographical locations and challenges of these nations, their Union is supposed to be a Natural Coalition.

India and Pakistan

The only issue between these nations is the issue of Kashmir which would be one of my preferences in order to enter a new era of inter countries relationships.

Otherwise both Indians and Pakistanis share almost the same culture, language and problems.

Iran will enter this Union with a condition that neither Iranians nor Sunnis or Saudis would intervene in each others' internal affairs and promote a culture of sincerity, tolerance and helping each other.

Saudi Arabia's being part of this union on reasons because this land is considered to be the Heart of Islam with Holy Cities which would be protected by Pakistani Nuclear Weapons, inshaAllah.

The State Religion

The state religion of my country would be Sunni Madhab as the overwhelming Majority of country consists of Sunni Muslims, and the same majority rule has been owned by Iran whose state relgion is Ja'fari Madhab.

This simple definition of the state religion would eradicate all LAME EXCUSES which seculars have been using against Islamisation of Pakistan as what would be the state religion while sunnis and shias are rivals in terms of religious issues, so what the religion of Pakistan should be, shi'ism or sunni'ism.
That was the excuse which first Prime Minister of Pakistan, Nawab Zadah Liaquat Ali Khan made and stabbed a knife at the back of Muslims of India who were fooled by Mr Jinnah and his Muslim League that Pakistan was being made to practise Islam therein.

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okay, and then

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then Fraudz came in to interrupt.

BRIDAL PICS.
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Wishful thinking my friend. Wishful thinking.

The reality is that these are the signs of the times. Plenty more Trials and Tribulations to come. Hopefully after I'm dead, buried and long gone!

Sickening environment we live in.

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interrupt? I asked if there was more or was that it. so is there more. I am eagerly waiting.

PS nice new nick, got bored of the old one nudgenudgewinkwink*

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And why should India agree for a strategic partnership with a country like Pakistan!!!. Would a strategic partnership mean that Pakistan would give up all claims on Kashmir until it seems strategic to break off the relationship. We have been fooled once but would never ourselves to be fooled again...

Should I or shouldn't I?
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What we need is state-of-art educational institutions and industries in our country so that we can stop the brain drain! Oh, also we need to be able to IMPLEMENT law in our country. Doesn't matter if its shariah or some other law...as long as people abide by it, our country would be a decent place to live.

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My vision of the world.

World Powers or on a rampage now. seen and unseen. Chess game is in full swing, pieces are being played, and I'll say by 2015 we'll have to pick a side to play the game with,

World is turning into blocks, ie. EU, African block etc. its slowly turning toward Cold war era mentality.

we've been overdue a War for almost 50 years. For all you peace lovers, remember this, we need war to survive, we have advance so much that nature is having hard time keeping up with us.

We have created Doctors.
We have created Machinery.
We have created Media.
And many more things. But we forgot to control the population.

Most of the problems in this world will slowly go away, if most people were. working and had a nice job and security and a happy home. ones society is happy, it tends to do less of evil things and more of good.

just few points, its my opinion. not in detail.

Funnies around the world
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Your vision sucks, that is a chapter out of mahabaharata.

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Incorrect, there is NO way you can "implement" sharia without people looking forward to it, without people actually practising Islam. "Implement sharia" has to start from the roots, it cannot be shoved from government.

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My vision of the world:

For that first go back to sub-continent when British ruled over us because, there was “oil”. Now that oil is in the Middle East, the same race cannot make us slaves like before, so they take our brains as hostage and hook us on competition on being friends. Who is America’s best friend? They will invent a nation in that region that will act like a victim to aggressor for time to time. This nation will play the role for the Boss of being involved in the region, as they are the only one who can solve this dilemma. Meanwhile they continue to suck oil from the region and will continue to do it for next 50 years. When that oil is of no use, they will pack up their bags and leave.

During these years if there is any one like Lebanon, who tries to form a secular democracy where Shia, Sunni, Muslim and Christians will live in peace and harmony. Boss will take it as a threat and try to put them down. This is because a nation like that can eventually become an example for other countries to follow. They will bomb, punish and kill civilians and make sure no body follows their league until the Boss says so. Meanwhile we will stick to watching 50 channels.

You want to uproot evil, simply WAKE UP…!

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I agree with Captain1. I believe that any system that is forced upon the people against their will is doomed. You can create awareness among people regarding the importance of Sharia and let them decide if that's what they want but you cannot impose sharia on them. Perhaps teaching people about Islam and Sharia will dispel some of the misconceptions they have regarding Sharia and in turn they will come to appreciate Sharia. Considering past elections Jama'at-e-Islami's performance has always been poor, why? Perhaps that tells us something about people's inclinations.

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Your opinion is baseless as the systems of governance in a country, whether developed or developing, are not made after examining if people are looking forward to them or not. For examle the tax collection system in the US hasn't been made because people love to pay tax.
The judiciary punishment of rapists in Pakistan hasn't been designed because all rapists wanted such law against them.

What you opine is a lame excuse of all those who want to escape from Islamic Governance system.
If people can accept state laws in the US, without loving or studying the laws, people can accept Islamic Laws or Shari'ah in any country, this is because law is superior to what people want.
And for your general knowledge, law is en*forced, therefore shari'ah is also enforced*, i.e proper use of force and power.

Do I
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Though I have explained in my previous post but I would elaborate a little more.
What happens when a person commits robbery in a country like Pakistan?
Ideally he is arrested by the police and punished by the law.
My question is why?

According to your dream-land-philosophy, the robber should be given an admission in a law college, and taught all state laws, explaining why such punishment has been designed for this crime. In fact, according to your Excellent philosophy, all Pakistanis should be taught state laws in some university and when it is made sure that not a single kid is left by this country wide educational campaign, law and order would be maintained in Pakistan.
And if it is not confirmed that each and every person in Pakistan has been educated with state laws, law and order could never be established.

What a joke!

Talk sense people..

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When I said “without people looking forward to it” I didn’t mean that only.
If you look at the society these days, they are eagerly waiting for Pakistani government to abolish any Islamic content from laws. People are switching to cables/satellite dish/internet (for entertainment) etc.

Politicians, beauracrats, army will not let sharia come into governance, they have a lot to lose that way.

:hehe: don’t you just love passing judgments? may be I shouldn’t talk to judgemental people to begin with.

How do you think they look?
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In UK, use of narcotics is spreading like virus, it doesn’t mean the government of UK would make use of drugs legal for all.
Television, satellite or internet can be Islamically and more effectively used in an Islamic Nation.

It simply means we need to get rid of their misuse of power in order to implement shari’ah.

In this world, people are judged by their actions and words, so it shouldn’t be strange.

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There is a difference desires versus what can be done after checking facts and ground reality.

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It simply means we need to get rid of their misuse of power in order to implement shari'ah.
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That is the first step to go in any direction other than current. And how do you think you will become president/prime minister with such current corrupt players in the game?

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In this world, people are judged by their actions and words, so it shouldn't be strange.
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okay now prove to me where I said that I don't want Islamic system.

Whats the going rate for a husband nowadays?
Whats the going rate for a husband nowadays?
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Most US laws "evolved", and the formation came out after a civil war, they didn't come out of nowhere.

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And for your general knowledge, law is en*forced, therefore shari'ah is also enforced*, i.e proper use of force and power.
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Who is suggesting that Shariah laws will not be enforced but it has to have good followers for successful implementation otherwise shariah will fail just like our current system in Pakistan, India, Bengladesh, Brazil, Nigeria etc.... If people are not willing to follow laws they will just stay in the book and what you will get is mockery of Shariah.

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And what are the facts, that people want to watch indian tv channels and government servants want to earn extra money in the form of bribes, rapists and paedophiles want to rape more women and kids and blah blah blah...
At least they are the facts and ground realities, you would agree with me, I guess.
We will wait for these realities to disappear before implementing shari'ah?

Isn't enforcement of shari'ah a perfect remedy to eliminate all these menice from the society?

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That is the first step to go in any direction other than current. And how do you think you will become president/prime minister with such current corrupt players in the game?
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I only have given an idea, it is not my wish and off course it is not the least probable that I can rule my nation.
The current players of the game have to be eradicated, they must be, if we want to save this nation.
In other words, everyone would be terminated who comes in to stop shari'ah.

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okay now prove to me where I said that I don't want Islamic system.
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Well, I didn't say what you are stating, I simply said that your point was the same as is brought by all anti shari'ah forces.