My parents being attracted by Ahmadiyyah Faith

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Re: My parents being attracted by Ahmadiyyah Faith

^ his id means " their is no God" .... in arabic..

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:)
dont you know that jews dont proselytize?
whereas did you never heard of Christian missionaries, especially in third world countries?
i am not sitting here to teach u what they and other groups are proselytize their beliefs in the name of humanitarian work, or how they are buying majority of the distinguishable lands of karachi and other major cities of Pakistan.

you respect Ahmediyah, it is your personal stand. i asked the thread starter what her parents liked about Ahmediyah, and this is my personal move.
...so you should also preach what u do and dont poke in my matter then :)
(since you said "I think changing religion or believing on something is a personal matter.")

and i have no interest in what ever belief anyone is adopting, as long as they dont interfere in mines. cuz the fact is Mirza Ghulam Ahmed is not the promised Messiah, or Mehdi.

second thing is Ahmediyah is not Islam's sect, and they were declared as non-muslim in 1974's constitution (even in 2002, when the constitution was revisited).

What was there in the world 10,000 years ago?
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^^ duh thas what gr8heera is saying ..

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Oh thanks. I didn't know that.

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This thread has started to become all weird with la ilaha, gr8heera, raj-ind and firenze's posts.

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La illaha the person, is very annoying.

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I respect every religion not matter what is that wrong or right.

We all have to respect all ppl. If they are wrong then we have to teach and tell them and explain to them what is wrong and what is right and let them decide themselves the true and right path.

Allah help us all to remain in right path and to learn more about right path. Ameen.

So People, What Are You Wearing?
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i agree with you.

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1) Then same will be applied to Tablighi Jamaat & thousands of Muslim missionaries around the world. Buying land or building mosques then their is the same argument by Christans, Hindus & Jews too in their respective countries too. What make us exception then? For your kind information, any Muslim can go to Vatican but Saudi Arabia officially refuse to even have diplomatic ties with them, its called religious biased-ism.. Its us who can't tolerate other religion/thinking/beliefs

2) I don't care if he was a promised messiah, mehdi or new mickey mouse, the fact is he has millions of followers and we just can't kill them on the "murtad" laws.

3) Again its your personal opinion that they are not Islamic sect, i have the same belief. But unfortunately i don't like special treatment with them just coz of religious differences. What if state of American make a law that only Ahmedhiya are real muslims do you mind? What if Americans start behaving with us differently, same way they did with japanes in world war 2? ...

Road always go two away !

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I only see this useless post in this thread yet !

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**This was copied from a report done by Pakistani Official sent to a UN Human Rights Commision in 1988:

“I know you are well aware that the Qadiyanis have been declared a minority in Pakistan, but one thing I must emphasise is that Qadiyanis were not declared a minority by a gathering of religious leaders or scholars, but the law making assembly (A’in Saz Assembly) unanimously declared them a minority. They were declared a minority after months of research and after thoroughly examining the situation. This decision was not biased nor one sided but the leader of the Qadiyanis at that time, Mirza Nasir also participated in the meetings with his scholars. And at times great arguments took place between Mirza Nasir and the assembly. Finally, when Mirza Nasir stated the comment that “I believe Mirza Qadiyani is a prophet of Allah (the glorified) and he who does not have this belief I consider him a disbeliever.” It was then that all the assembly unanimously declared the Qadiyanis a minority. It also must be noted that when an agreement is made not by the majority but by the entire assembly then that agreement is considered a part of the law. The major reason this agreement was reached was due to the comment of **Mirza Nasir himself who said that he who does not believe in Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as a prophet is amongst the non-believers.

“At present the population of Muslims in the entire world is around one billion (1,000,000,000) out of which 125,000 are Qadiyanis. According to the leader of the Qadiyanis it is only they who are Muslims and the rest of the population of real Muslims, 999 million 875 thousand (999,875,000), are now no longer Muslims because of his above mentioned statement. None can dare write, announce or think of such a comment but Mirza did not hesitate to do so.”
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responsibility for ones Akhira is their own...............

May Allah Guide us all!
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125000 that's it ? you got be kidding me !

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As a muslim it's our responsibility to guide ppl who are on right path. As quran says.

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^^ Same Ayats are used by talibans/extremists to chop off people head & Same ayats are used to promote violence in Muslim societies.

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Quran doesn't say to chop off.

Whoever is doing a single thing against Islam no matter he/her is very religious its no a muslim. I mean if you are doing something wrong that belongs to you and Allah.

When you harm anyone even to kuffar aur munafiq if they are not doing any harm to you then you will be punished on judgement day. That's what quran say.

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going back to the topic…

Shahid kamal, an ex ahmadi, he has many videos on youtube regarding ahmadiyat..show them to your parents, they’ll like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=(http://uk.youtube.com/user/shahidkamal)

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i respect their religion/faith/sect as much as i do others.
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so this is the respect you give to others beliefs? :)
if you cant carry a serene discussion then you are better off not to continue instead of proving your own self wrong :)

ps. do you even know about Ahmedi/ Lohori/ Qadiani (i wont gonna use the word Mirzai cuz i am really not here to agitate) beliefs? or u just respect everyone anyone without even knowing what actually they follow?

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Put the words back in the context ... it will not take you any where.

ps. do you know what are the hindus, bahai, jain .. follow? what is your logic? you start disrespecting if you don't like someone beliefs? .. Classy :)

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i am going no where, but preach what u do and say.

ps. i dont need to and i dont respect or disrespect anyones beliefs. any dialogue can happen without making any fuss. the problem is not everyone can deals the rationality, such as ur “respecting” self :slight_smile:

and yes, i do know about Hindu (err…jain a sepecial sect of hinduism :rolleyes:) and Baha’i (lol. a monotheistic joke)…but if u dont mind and stick to Ahmedism then it will be ehsan on Religion forums mod.

so tell me what beliefs do you respect of Ahmediyah belief? and what beliefs of theirs defines them as ahmedi?

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Do i have to dig into someone personal thinking to form a relationship or friendship or living with them? Nope i don’t think so. Everyone is human first then the rules came in !
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“Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.” Jibran*