My friends dark past...

Well thats good she turned him down, she shouldn’t be with someone who’s going to cause her discomfort. :flower1:

Don’t worry about it she knows, shes been following the thread. :flower1:

Assalaam alaykum everyone,

This is my first post so I hope I don't make any Errors.

I think ..that this whole topic is a VERy very very Sensitive one. When a WOMAN'S AURA IS VIOLATED like that there is a point from which it seems there is NO Return. What I was curious to find out was what (Hoor Bano's friend) did when he made his moves. What I think would have been Very Healthy would have been to yell and scream (at least).
My own sister was fondled by a maulana type(an uncle) and actually I suffered Hugely more than she did. However, he was never to set foot in our house again cause my sister lost it as she pouted what he did to her to everyone in the house that day. I Lot of negative things happened to Me as a result of that one incident. e.g. I was in the middle of a makeup exam for Dental School when it happened and as a result I flunked the exam and was dismissed from Dental School which led to me getting a Severe Depression and then seven hospitalizations and a shattered life. which with seven years of therapy I have been trying to reclaim. Things like this create(or can create) a Lot of Confusion in a Person's life. And the only way to sort it out is through talking about what happened, engaging them and really listening to them. Providing them with Hope which eventually leads to a sense of Certainty and Familiarity with themselves. May the Force be with your friend Hoor Bano! :-) Humoring over the past is also a Great Way to sort out the messy confusion. okay take care, and tell your friend or if she's reading that WE ALL CARE!!

Allah

With lajawabs theory in place we can all ask the murderers, assassins, rapists and serial killers to revert to Islam and become pious. That way no one would be convicted, everyones izzat would be in place and all that have been killed or molested can shut their traps n rest in peace. :rolleyes:

Ooh, so much to say so little time.

he can’t be convicted even now. unless the girl takes the law in her own hands and go on a killing rampage.

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he can't be convicted even now. unless the girl takes the law in her own hands and go on a killing rampage.
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I'm pretty sure he can be convicted. Thats not the point whether he can or cannot be convicted now. Point is, people like that dude who've made mistakes that have affected another should pay for the damages whether psychological or physical.

And if so we are going on the hear say of forgiving and forgetting, what happens to her? what becomes of her? will she be able to sit with her husband and not dig up those repressed memories? What about her?

Personally, I would like to see him paying one way or another whether it be her therapy sessions or be convicted. He can ask for repentance all he wants but she's stuck with a bad psyche thanks to him.

we are being ignorant? well missy your friend’s been an ignorant all this time. keep this secret to herself, thus letting the chance slip out of her hands to get some justice.

i’ve said before and will say again, if it were my sister i would have dealt with it the best way possible.

yeah forget and forgive maybe is not a best option for your friend, but until a decision is made on such issue, every option and possibility should be kept open.

yes your sure will bring in all the evidence and proof to being this person to justice. all the laws and rules rely on my sure, his sure, her’s sure etc. rite?

yeah he should pay for the damages if he is proven responsible.

wht about her? well she’s the one who will have to think about that. she has to deal with it. apparently she is soo busy feeling gulity and what not that so far no step is taken by her to do anything about this issue and that guy.

yes i too would like to see him pay but lets be realistic, he won’t just give her a cheque to go and have yourself treated. even known molesters and rapists don’t give up that easily. she will have to do better in reality to bring him to justice.

i’ll say tell the guy about his father [the one who is interested in him]. he’ll confront his own father and then sit and see which way the tide will turn. for better or worse, is her fate.

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Laj unless you’ve changed ur views, I’ve lost all respect for you :flower1:

ZaIN, even tho ur not on this board anymore (or maybe under another nick?) You are a disgusting person. God help you.

Is there any update on this??

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You wouldn’t be the first one, Sara…:bummer:

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I respect you lajwaab, for having Alligaters skin :k:

Itney, lit’ter khaa ke achey achey apna opinion change karletey hian :hehe:

You will become a good husband. Otherwise your wife will be a good wife. Otherwise …
Ok, no otherwise :bummer:

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Well, when u decide to be devil's advocate in such a disgusting and vile situation that has no question of "right" in the right-and-wrong debate, then yeah u lose respect

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Geez why pull up a 2 year old thread!?!

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I hope you read all my replies in the thread…You’ll get an idea of why I said what I said…

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If someone did you wrong, or hurt any one of your relatives in that way, God forbid, would you advise them to shut up and forget about it? True, the best thing one can do in this situation is forgive them. It takes a lot of courage and strength to forgive the one who did you wrong, but it's not wrong to want to bring it out to public, and that's what you and ZaIN are implying. I understand that when someone repents, their sin is erased in the eyes of Allah and they start new. HOWEVER, there are certain sins that don't cause others direct pain, like molesting or raping someone might.

Sadly, it's people like you who make sex abuse survivors really ashamed of themselves. There should be no shame in admitting that someone did YOU wrong. But of course, our screwed up culture likes to abuse and rape women over and over again, by not affording them the justice they so deserve.

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I think you didn’t read all my replies…

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Lajawab, you're a total dunce, really. Islam is something you apparently hide behind, since you obviously don't know anything about it. That uncle transgressed his rights and he committed a crime as stated in the QURAN itself. You know, that holy book you're always quoting?

Yep that one.

He has absolutely no right to her. Also, he doesn't have right to her without consent. So two crimes.

Therefore, she is a victim and she may absolutely disclose what has happened to him. Islamically, there is no reason for her to feel shame about it or feel guilty. She's done nothing wrong.

Please stop being a muslim really. Your mixing of old cultural BS with religion just makes you another muslim idiot.

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And yeah of course there will be hurt in the family, Lajawab, but maybe that horny uncle should have thought of that before he conducted his actions on this child.

And the fact that he's hiding behind religion now...PUH LEESE! He needs to be punished.