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Few years back, I heard they were writting Bible for Children in Florida.

May be that one?

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same goes for interpretations of Quran. Holy scripts r so ambiguous and context-bound that they mean nothing, globally speaking. Everyone interprets them differently. The promise/claim of Preservation of words dont mean anything now.

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Out of answers huh? Stupidity is always hard to defend.

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:stupid:

To expect to include the Islamic view in an article about Jesus’ position in the Gospels and Church, as Christ, and the beginnings of Christianity and Christmas is perplexing to say the least.

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Having the Islamic perspective (most detailed btw) is perplexing yet including the Buddhist, Jewish, Norse, Hindu, and Druid perspectives aren't?

Take off those blinders once in a while.

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Actually not as perplexing as the fact that he was drawing on Norse, Gilgamesh, Judaic traditions and even going as far as just providing a similitude of some mythic miraculous birth in ancient pagan religions…

He was talking about Christ and the implications of his virgin birth in many different faiths and mythologies…

If you read my letter, you will see it is not one of complaint…Rather to correct an oversight by pointing out the one faith where many things are actually the same as Christianity…

But many of you are generous defending your errors, oversights and mistakes…Such is what we can claim happens throughout the rest of the world, from Afghanistan to Iraq to Palestine…

And I have no doubt, the atrocities committed in the name of freedom, liberty and democracy are far more hienous than the media would have us believe…

This is censorship, for which the claim of a free, unalderated information falls as a lie…

The point raised by my letter was simply that an oversight had occured…However, that oversight has now blown up into a full fledged question?

If you can cut out Islam from discussing the importance of Christ in different religions then just imagine how much how much censorship, erroneous information and malice must be disseminated in the hands of those controlling the flow of information…Information, which many of our likes to take as the last word…

Drape a flag around it, stamp it with the letters freedom, liberty and democracy then bury the truth alongwith millions of those who have died in your quest for greed, control and devastation…

Your half-truths are lies, more lies and damned lies…

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Is stubborn indignation even when faced with facts something your superior faith teaches you?

The Norse, Gilgamesh, Judaic and ancient paegan traditions may have influenced the story of Christ because they preceded Christianisty. That is why they are discussed. Islam was revealed hundreds of years later, that is why it is not relevant to articles discussing Jesus' position in the Gospels and Church, as Christ, and the beginnings of Christianity and Christmas.

Islasm had zero. Nada. Zilch to to with Christian's interpretation of their faith. Hence Islam has nothing to do with these Newsweek articles. If these articles were about "The Importance of Christ in Different Religions", then you'd have a point of contention.

You are right, most Christians don't even know that Islam claims Jesus as a prophet. But can you blame them? He was reduced from Saviour to second bit player and Islam ignored all his Biblical teachings and replaced them with Old Testament-like brimstone and fire.

Unless you, your religion or what you advocate are sitting high on the mountain top looking down at the rest of the ignorant masses, when you make accusatoins of half-truth, lies, more lies and damned lies... it rings hollow. Don't you think an equally fundamentalist, self righteous Christian can make the same accusations about you, your culture, your scripture and your religion?

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^^Thank you clarifying what we've known all along that Christianity is nothing but a ba$tardized version of european, particularly Roman paganism....

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Your welcome. Do I also need to clarify for you that Christians believe Islam to be a bastrdized religion of Christianity with Arabic paganism?

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Your choice of language is deplorable and an insult to all those Muslims who believe in Hazrat Eissa as a prophet and continuation of the message delivered by the prophets before him. Your knowledge of Christianity is superficial and shallow at best. Holy Quran is very clear as to how we (Muslims) are supposed to talk to others in matters of religions, it would be better if you familiarized yourself with the basics of Islam before acting like a Sultan Rahi of Modern day Islam…

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.Let’s put one fundamental concept aside that divides us for now, the fact that for Muslims, Hz. Eesa :as: was a Prophet and to you a son of God :Nauzubillah:, a concept no Muslim can ever expect to agree with…

And the second being his crucifixion…We believe Allah :swt: replaced him with someone with his mirror image…I have not studied whether the person was a man or an angel…(If someone knows, please oblige by enlightening us with that knowledge…)

That being aside, let us study the similarities (Keep in mind that both the Holy Quran and the Bible draw heavily upon analogies, similitudes and past events):

  1. The birth of Hz. Eesa :as: was miraculous…One of the signs of his Prophethood…

  2. He was Divinely inspired…

  3. He was a virgin birth…

  4. He raised Lazarus from the dead…

  5. He cured the lepers…

  6. His mother was Bibi Mariam (Mary) :as:, who had never known a man…

  7. The Elders of the Jews did conspire to kill him…

  8. He will be raised again before Judgment day…

  9. He had 12 companions…

If any Muslim doubts the accuracy of these events, then he is not a Muslim, and if he proposes to tell you otherwise, then he is lying…Similar to your accounts except we part ways on the Prophet and son and the crucifixion thing…

The Holy Quran simply says, you to your way and me to mine…

That’s one of the things I have noticed between the Quran and Bible…While the Bible according to whomever, takes about 6 pages to explain, the Quran would simply say it in one verse, to the point…Then Hadith and the Sunnah of the Holy Prophet (saw) would fill in even the minutest details…The finishing touch…

That is why we have this great bond and love for our Holy Prophet (saw)…He was as good a student as well as he was a fantastic leader…Words fail me in even beginning to describe his loyalty and his obedience to Allah (swt)…May peace be upon him…

Anyways…

Many similiraties…Muslim articles would explain the differences clearly so that ‘You to your way and me to mine’ difference is established…You worship what you will, and I will mine…

That is why I am anti this Interfaith thing…

Your constant forays of animosity against Muslim countries to change the teachers, the leaders, Madrassas or change the curriculum of schools or try to change the whole mentality of a civilization according to your standards, just reinforces the belief that you will not let us worship what we want…Americanization of Islam…

Yet, when the time came to clearly mark the difference and similarities between the two faiths, the line was blurred…Very nicely too, like a hair from melted butter…:smiley:

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It could be a ba$tardized version of another monothiest religion, such as Judaism, but certainly has nothing in commong with a mythological polytheist religion.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/newsweek_quran
Newsweek apologizes for Quran Story Error

By DINO HAZELL, Associated Press Writer

NEW YORK - In an apology to readers this week, Newsweek acknowledged errors in a story alleging U.S. interrogators at Guantanamo Bay desecrated the Quran. The accusations, which the magazine vowed to re-examine, spawned protests in Afghanistan that left 15 dead and scores injured.

Responding to harsh criticism from Muslim leaders worldwide, the Pentagon promised to investigate the charges and pinned the deadly clashes on Newsweek for what it described as “irresponsible” reporting.

“We regret that we got any part of our story wrong, and extend our sympathies to victims of the violence and to the U.S. soldiers caught in its midst,” Editor Mark Whitaker wrote in the apology.

Newsweek reported that U.S. military investigators had found evidence that interrogators placed copies of Islam’s holy book in washrooms and had flushed one down the toilet to get inmates to talk.

Whitaker wrote that the magazine’s information came from “a knowledgeable U.S. government source,” and writers Michael Isikoff and John Barry had sought comment from two Defense Department officials. One declined to respond, and the other challenged another part of the story but did not dispute the Quran charge, Whitaker said.

But on Friday, a top Pentagon spokesman told the magazine that a review of the military’s investigation concluded “it was never meant to look into charges of Quran desecration. The spokesman also said the Pentagon had investigated other desecration charges by detainees and found them ‘not credible.’”

Whitaker added that the magazine’s original source later said he could not be sure he read about the alleged Quran incident in the report Newsweek cited, and that it might have been in another document.

“Top administration officials have promised to continue looking into the charges, and so will we,” Whitaker wrote.

Newsweek Washington Bureau Chief Daniel Klaidman said the magazine believes it erred in reporting the allegation that a prison guard tried to flush the Quran down a toilet and that military investigators had confirmed the accusation.

“The issue here is to get the truth out, to acknowledge as quickly as possible what happened, and that’s what we’re trying to do,” Klaidman told the “CBS Evening News” on Sunday.

Many of the 520 inmates at Guantanamo are Muslims arrested during the U.S.-led war against the Taliban and its al-Qaida allies in Afghanistan.

In a statement, Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said the original story was “demonstrably false” and “irresponsible,” and “had significant consequences that reverberated throughout Muslim communities around the world.”

“Newsweek hid behind anonymous sources, which by their own admission do not withstand scrutiny,” Whitman said. “Unfortunately, they cannot retract the damage they have done to this nation or those that were viciously attacked by those false allegations.”

After Newsweek published the story, demonstrations spread across Afghanistan and Muslims around the world decried the alleged desecration.

In Afghanistan, Islamic scholars and tribal elders called for the punishment of anyone found to have abused the Quran, said Maulawi Abdul Wali Arshad, head of the religious affairs department in Badakhshan province.

Arshad and the provincial police chief said the scholars met in Faizabad, 310 miles northeast of the capital, Kabul, and demanded a “reaction” from U.S. authorities within three days.

Lebanon’s most senior Shiite Muslim cleric on Sunday said the reported desecration of the Quran is part of an American campaign aimed at disrespecting and smearing Islam.

In a statement faxed to The Associated Press, Grand Ayatollah Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah called the alleged desecration a “brutal” form of torture and urged Muslims and international human rights organizations “to raise their voices loudly against the American behavior.”

On Saturday, Pakistan’s President Gen. Pervez Musharraf and Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz, both allies of Washington, demanded an investigation and punishment for those behind the reported desecration of the Quran.

The story also sparked protests in Pakistan, Yemen and the Gaza Strip. The 22-nation Arab League issued a statement saying if the allegations panned out, Washington should apologize to Muslims.

National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley said in an interview for CNN’s “Late Edition” that the allegations were being investigated “vigorously.”

“If it turns out to be true, obviously we will take action against those responsible,” he said.


So after much debate, they finally decided to apologize but still holding on to their argument that much information came from “a knowledgeable U.S. government source.”