My biggest regret for being an athiest/agnostic

[burqaposhx]

@Miss_Noland

Exactly! Religious folks put it out as if they have figured out God. If their claim is that God is eternal, incomprehensible, all-knowing, then how could they claim to know what God wants by following a scripture that's written by men? There's no proof that any of the religious scriptures are from God. Seriously, there's no logic there..

Miss Noland,

Do you realize that all of our achievements today are the result of "imagination".

In other words, airplanes, spaceships, computers etc. were all "figment of human imagination" for the longest time.

If you had existed in 1920s, and you had read a research paper talking about space travel, then would you mock the author?

Similarly the concept of God/Allah/Bhagwan exists in imagination. Some of us can perhaps "feel" it, and many of us pursue the concept, and believe in it.

So why would you mock us or argue with us?

The right thing to do is, you believe in Allah if you want, or do not believe in Him. In the end, you are responsible for your beliefs and dis-beliefs.

[SargeCandy]

@USResident

Sarge your not giving Miss_Noland the right kind of Lollypop.

I aint got no lolly pop.....just jelly beans...not that hard to swallow really.

[Miss_Noland]

@burqaposhx

Miss Noland,

Do you realize that all of our achievements today are the result of "imagination".

For sure...

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In other words, airplanes, spaceships, computers etc. were all "figment of human imagination" for the longest time.
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Right..

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If you had existed in 1920s, and you had read a research paper talking about space travel, then would you mock the author?
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Nope, I wouldn't.

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Similarly the concept of God/Allah/Bhagwan exists in imagination. Some of us can perhaps "feel" it, and many of us pursue the concept, and believe in it.
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That's precisely my point!

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So why would you mock us or argue with us?
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I don't mock you, I mock the Mullahs who seem to have figured out God. You can't compare scientific inventions/discoveries with faith/religious beliefs. That's the argument! YOu cannot present something as a fact that's not proven yet. Scientific inventions/theories are meant to evolve overtime, religious faith doesn't evolve or change overtime. Theory by definition can be modified. Religious beliefs are never modified, once modified it's not really true, is it? Muslims still believe what they believed in the 7th century regardless of how many times their beliefs have been debunked. I respect your beliefs as long as you don't try to impose it on me and let me live in peace. My beef is not with God, because I DO believe in God, it's just not a religious God.

I know God exists...what is it? I don't know! But I know I am not going to assign any attributes to God because I don't understand it...but the proof is all around me that there's a creator. If I can make this world a better place in any way I could, I know I am not doing anything wrong. I don't believe in stories.

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The right thing to do is, you believe in Allah if you want, or do not believe in Him. In the end, you are responsible for your beliefs and dis-beliefs.
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Definitely

[USResident]

@SargeCandy

I aint got no lolly pop.....just jelly beans...not that hard to swallow really.

Jumping jelly beans ...

[diwana]

@Yea_Boii

I was discussing this the other day with my friend. As much as I cherish my ability to see through the farce of religion, I also can’t help feel disapointed.

To me the non existence of an after life (atleast as defined by the major religions) and as an extension the non accountability of the human actions here in this world is such a letdown. To me, the fact that people who brought so much misery to this world (hitler etc etc) will not face consequences for thier actions and the innocnts will not get their fair shake is just heart wrenching.

That’s my biggest regret for my beliefs. And for that reason, I do hope there is some sort of high power and we will have to answer for our deeds.

This was the original post. And the title is

My biggest regret for being an athiest/agnostic

Yea_Boii regretted that he is atheist/agnostic.

1- The title itself suggests he has no idea what an atheist is and what an agnostic is. A confused person to say the least.

2- Yet he wants someone to be responsible for the deeds in this world and someone superior and powerful enough to be able to perform this justice.

3- This is why he regrets believing on his atheistic/agnostic beliefs.

I must ask OP what really he is? (I think he is a male guppie)

Atheist or Agnostic?

[Miss_Noland]

Re: My biggest regret for being an athiest/agnostic

^ I think he is agnotic. There's nothing wrong with wondering what would happen once we are dead. He is wondering just as the Prophets wondered, but the only difference is, they created religion to satisfy their imagination .... we know better not to do that. I hate to sound disrespectful but that's their line of thinking. Most agnostics don't truly know whether or not they are atheist of agnostic because they keep falling in and out of belief in God. I haven't labeled myself agnostic or atheist because to be honest, I don't know...I am a doubter, that's it.

[diwana]

^ I think he is agnotic. There's nothing wrong with wondering what would happen once we are dead. He is wondering just as the Prophets wondered, but the only difference is, they created religion to satisfy their imagination .... we know better not to do that. I hate to sound disrespectful but that's their line of thinking. Most agnostics don't truly know whether or not they are atheist of agnostic because they keep falling in and out of belief in God. I haven't labeled myself agnostic or atheist because to be honest, I don't know...I am a doubter, that's it.

In this way,you are really an agnostic...and so is OP. Nothing wrong with it.

Even religious people go in to questioning very basic religious ideas time after time.

To answer the** red **bold part, they really did not create religion.

Even an agnostic or atheist, let alone a religious person could not come up with the answer how one person (the prophet) could make up verses of Quran based on the background he had.

Non-muslims say he (the prophet) had seizures (Mirgi) during which he uttered these verses...but is that really possible?

Ever heard of anyone utter these kind of words or even close to them during the attack of seizure?

[Yea_Boii]

Re: My biggest regret for being an athiest/agnostic

jeez what's wrong with you ppl? diwana - i think ur the 5th idiot in this thread pointing out the difference between agnostic and athiest. I KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS!

Jesus.

The point of the thread is that probably the ONLY thing I like about Islam/Christianity is the fact that people pay for thier deeds in this "after-world". As opposed to believeing that there will be nothing once we die.

Get that in your head people. I couldn't care less what Ic all myself, agnostic or athiest.

[diwana]

@Yea_Boii

jeez what’s wrong with you ppl? diwana - i think ur the **5th idiot **in this thread pointing out the difference between agnostic and athiest. **I KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS!
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Jesus.

The point of the thread is that probably the ONLY thing I like about Islam/Christianity is the fact that people pay for thier deeds in this “after-world”. As opposed to believeing that there will be nothing once we die.

Get that in your head people. I couldn’t care less what Ic all myself, agnostic or athiest.

5th idiot? lol

You are the first and the only idiot if you wrote the title

**My **biggest regret for being an athiest/agnostic](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/religion-scripture/390487-my-biggest-regret-being-athiest-agnostic-3.html#post7228293)

If you knew the difference then why wrote as being atheist/agnostic??

A confused person at best is an agnostic by definition.

You don’t like it or agree to it, then that is fine. Doesn’t change people’s observation of what you present yourself as.

[Miss_Noland]

In this way,you are really an agnostic...and so is OP. *Nothing wrong with it.

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Maybe. I don't like to label myself.

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Even religious people go in to questioning very basic religious ideas time after time.
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Of course, the very basic beliefs most religions require you to have are hard to understand.

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To answer the** red **bold part, they really did not create religion.

Even an agnostic or atheist, let alone a religious person could not come up with the answer how one person (the prophet) could make up verses of Quran based on the background he had.

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That's a different debate altogether. I will cut this short, Prophets, all of them, had companions who had great knowledge about other religions, people, nations around them. The information was not "revealed" to the prophets, it was brought to their attention by their companions. It's yet to be proven that Quran itself was written during the life of Muhammad (pbuh), let alone that it was "revealed" to him. Revelations happened so conveniently for prophets, what greater authority is there to convince people other than the authority of God? There are countless contradictions, historial errors in every scripture. People weren't dumb 1400 years ago but they sure were gullible. Muhammad had good intentions just as any prophet did, he wanted to bring upon a revolution..and there came an array of convenient revelations to support his ideas. It was nothing new, Moses did it, then Jesus did it, and then Muhammad did it!

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Non-muslims say he (the prophet) had seizures (Mirgi) during which he uttered these verses...but is that really possible?
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I personally don't believe he had seizures but again...there's no proof that he didn't have any kind of mental illness. I mean no disrespect. I don't wish to discuss this any further because it could easily offend other Muslims here.

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Ever heard of anyone utter these kind of words or even close to them during the attack of seizure?
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Of course not.. but some schizophenic individuals also happen to be the brightest and most conniving people on earth..

[Holy_Terror]

Blah Jeez blah

Jesus.

Blah God blah Jeez blah

Don't take God's name in vain, either. My troll radar just went off on Yea_Boii.

Okay, so. The guy loves God, takes His name in vain, believes in His existence. He's just trolling around, Jeez.

[Holy_Terror]

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I personally don't believe he had seizures but again...there's no proof that he didn't have any kind of mental illness. I mean no disrespect. I don't wish to discuss this any further because it could easily offend other Muslims here.

Of course not.. but some schizophenic individuals also happen to be the brightest and most conniving people on earth..

WTF? That's just like saying, ''I don't mean to offend you'' and going on to doing just that.

Now, some facts and figures. All agnostic/atheists are either:

1- Mongoloids.
2- Mongoloids.
3- Trendy mongoloids. (Following trends, being agnostic to be kewl. )

[Miss_Noland]

WTF? That's just like saying, ''I don't mean to offend you'' and going on to doing just that.

Now, some facts and figures. All agnostic/atheists are either:

1- Mongoloids. 2- Mongoloids. 3- Trendy mongoloids. (Following trends, being agnostic to be kewl. )

Do you even know what Mongoloid means? I seriously hope you don't mean "down syndrome". I will let you use your little brain to find out what that word means first. Come back to me when you have something substantial to add.

[Holy_Terror]

Re: My biggest regret for being an athiest/agnostic

That was the punchline, downy. Did I strike a nerve there?

'Cause I possibly couldn't. You said you're neither an atheist nor an agnostic. So calm your ass down-y.

Ouch.

[Miss_Noland]

Re: My biggest regret for being an athiest/agnostic

^ Way to prove your point. Stop it, you are making other muslims look bad here.

[Holy_Terror]

Re: My biggest regret for being an athiest/agnostic

Who said anything about anyone being Muslim?

Oh boy. Downy's these days. Hallucinating much?

[Miss_Noland]

Re: My biggest regret for being an athiest/agnostic

^ Wow, seriously?..

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