I was discussing this the other day with my friend. As much as I cherish my ability to see through the farce of religion, I also can’t help feel disapointed.
To me the non existence of an after life (atleast as defined by the major religions) and as an extension the non accountability of the human actions here in this world is such a letdown. To me, the fact that people who brought so much misery to this world (hitler etc etc) will not face consequences for thier actions and the innocnts will not get their fair shake is just heart wrenching.
That’s my biggest regret for my beliefs. And for that reason, I do hope there is some sort of high power and we will have to answer for our deeds.
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That is exactly one of the biggest reasons of my belief in Islam, the day of Judgement. If you think about it, the promise of the Day of Judgement is a very very big thing. That one day all Hitlers, Gandis, Quaids will answer for what they did.
So those 12 so called militants who were killed today by the American drone attacks today. They will get justice that day, since nobody in this world cares to give them justice. But Allah will do justice.
and its my duty to ask you to study Islam, so that you don’t die a non believer. Tanzil : Quran Navigator has translations in many languages.
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To me, the fact that people who brought so much misery to this world (hitler etc etc) will not face consequences for thier actions and the innocnts will not get their fair shake is just heart wrenching.
That's my biggest regret for my beliefs. And for that reason, I do hope there is some sort of high power and we will have to answer for our deeds
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thats a very noble thought to have, and may I add that God's mercy is infinite and may he show it to you more than those hypocrites who claim to believe in him yet are hedonistic and selfish
a-the-ism -noun
1. the doctrine or belief that there is no god.
2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings
ag-nos-tic -noun
1. a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.
2. a person who denies or doubts the possibility of ultimate knowledge in some area of study.
So YB, if I may be so bold as to determine that you are not an atheist, may I ask why you are agnostic? :)
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We can only make sure that you got the message. It is up to you to believe in what you believe in.
I am sure you already know a million and one reasons for or against existance of Allah/God.
In case you did not get that message you know where to look.
The belief you have should be enough for you to console your feelings … LOL … before people think I am promoting atheism or something similar … please let me explain …
Is it not science that says for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction?
Is it not science that says entropy increases? The form becomes formless in time …
Is it not science that states … Any change instatus quoprompts an opposing reaction in the responding system? Le Chatelier’s Principle.
If science has the concept of ‘what comes around goes around’ how is it that you think the evil people in this world are not to face consequences?
And if you would HOPE to see that there is some higher power to make this balance by giving the punishment to where it is due then is it not natural to conclude that there must be THIS higher power to ensure that balance is maintained? For sure it seems to be maintained in nature with forces, then it is only sensible to appeal to the concept of God which helps it all to fit together.
And for sure … is there not any balance you see that as a result of Hitler there is a reaction in current society towards fascism one that might not have existed if he never came …
Use deep reason to build on your beliefs … change them where necessary … but don’t despair of them … Let’s assume there is a God … how about that? Now you will see your life change … InshaAllah …
Although I am obsessed with sharing definitions with the world (lol), my intention was not to patronise you by putting the definitions of 'atheist' and 'agnostic' - I hope it didn't come across that way.
I was just trying to understand your post (the title said you were atheist/agnostic) But you've now clarified (I think) that you're agnostic.
I'm still curious as to the reasons for your belief - not your reasons for hoping there is a God but your reasons for rejecting those who claim to be God's Messengers.
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Common sense abeera. For one thing, as the story goes, apparently God chooses it's messnengers to have it's word spread. Well why just not reveal himself? surely all people (including me) would instantly believe in him. And don't say that God wants to test our faith or what not - since that means we're just a game for God while we kill in his name. Quite sadistic in that case.
Major religions have us believe God created man (adam/eve). Science has now categorically proven that we shared a same ancestor as apes. Look up some documentenries on evolution.
There are just so many reasons..it'll take me all day to list them!
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God doesn't need us to believe in His Existence for Him to exist.
God is unlimited, beyond our comprehension. As is the reason for Him creating us. (I'm not talking about our purpose of life here - I'm referring to the cause of our creation).
We are limited, we experience evidence of this every moment of every day.
How would God, unlimited and infinite, manifest Himself in a way that is satisfactory to a limited and finite mind? It is an irrational and contradictory expectation to expect Allah swt to 'reveal himself' in entirety.
However, we do comprehend the laws of nature as they are also limited and within our capacity of understanding - and it is here that Allah swt has given us clear signs through plainly interrupting and warping the those laws of nature (ie miracles, which every Messenger of Allah (swt) has had to 'bring').
[Ps. Science has failed to prove Darwin's theory of evolution - that's why it's still called a 'theory' :) For starters, locate and read 'Evolution Deceit' by Harun Yahya and let me know what you think of that book. Islam recognises that human beings adapt to environments, but not evolve from anything other than the human form that Adam (as) was created in.]
and as an extension the non accountability of the human actions here in this world is such a letdown.
Shabash. Now you also need to acknowledge that good and bad, moral and immoral, is all our own creation. That morality is relative term, which depends on a society and environment.
And after doing this, imagine the kind of world you will end up with if your above ideas are accepted by people in general. What will we call 'good' or 'bad'?
God doesn't need us to believe in His Existence for Him to exist.
God is unlimited, beyond our comprehension. As is the reason for Him creating us. (I'm not talking about our purpose of life here - I'm referring to the cause of our creation).
We are limited, we experience evidence of this every moment of every day.
How would God, unlimited and infinite, manifest Himself in a way that is satisfactory to a limited and finite mind? It is an irrational and contradictory expectation to expect Allah swt to 'reveal himself' in entirety.
However, we do comprehend the laws of nature as they are also limited and within our capacity of understanding - and it is here that Allah swt has given us clear signs through plainly interrupting and warping the those laws of nature (ie miracles, which every Messenger of Allah (swt) has had to 'bring').
it's very simple. Just reveal himself. end of story.
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[Ps. Science has failed to prove Darwin's theory of evolution - that's why it's still called a 'theory' :) For starters, locate and read 'Evolution Deceit' by Harun Yahya and let me know what you think of that book. Islam recognises that human beings adapt to environments, but not evolve from anything other than the human form that Adam (as) was created in.]
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haha, i don't even know how to respond to this. So you don't believe in gravity either? afterall, that's also a "theory". Also; look up ina dictioanry what a theory means.