^^ this because MQM loves etnic fighting...while in some previous thread ...you have proved the ethnic harmony of MQm !!!!!!
Why MQM terrorists are so much aginst pakhtuns...punjabies and internal sindhis.....
just hatred they spread and just hatred ...upon which they get vote from foolish people ....
No it was religious haromony not ethnic. But my question is why military stood aside and allowed MQM to go on killing spree on the main shahre-e-faisal which MQM can never dare to do as it is in habit of fighting in narrow streets and its stronghold areas.
What the hell milltary do....only rangers were deployed in useless areas....main ares are under MQM terrorist by internal advisor of Sindh,..Waseem Akhtar....
If army comes...then you people start weeping..as you weep from 1992-1995....
[quote] Armed activists of Islami Jamiat Talba were also shown in the footage threatening policemen at JMPC to leave the hospital. On Sharea Faisal, armed workers of the ANP were seen firing indiscriminately near Aisha Bawani College*.*
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Religious terrorists on the rampage, with secular murderers of the ANP.
The non-functional CJ's arrival triggered all this.
When both the central and provincial government itself was involved in terrorism, why blame others. Shame on the govt and its gundas. People who are suppose to protect the lives of innocent citizens become party to terrorism themselves than what do you expect from others. Any other country and the head of state would have resigned after such a shameful act. But not in Pakistan. Besharam leader is only interested in his kursi, how many innocent die in the process are immaterial to him.
I wonder when will Imran Khan file a case against the opposition?
Don't expect Imran to ask for "insaaaf" all round. MQM killed people, so did ANP, PPP, JI, PPI and other parties. But you will see him desperate to be pictured with those people in his anti-Musharraf obsession. Just like some years he was pictured with the CM of India's Gujarat state - Modi, the butcher of thousands of Musims. Imran keeps some very nasty murderous company to further his political (and international) profile.
What this video footage confirms is the total breakdown of state authority and how militants ruled the day.
Since Mqm was the sitting Govt they had the prime responsibility and authority to maintain law and order. Unfortunately, Mqm chose to become a party in this sordid affair that cud have been avoided, thus share major portion of the blame. Had Mqm shown political maturity, they cud have asked the Rangers to do their dirty work the same way BB and NS did back in the ninties, outsource to some willing lunatic, but then again Mqm has no shortage in that dept.
The opposition parties ANP, PPP and JI have always indulged in violence, this is nothing new, they too bear responsibility for their actions which has resulted in loss of lives, arson, destroying state and private property.
Bringing rangers and militray would have further detoriated the situation. Most of the people with guns were running around with party officials. Country and state police does not work for party, they do not change loyalties after an election. Their priority is same, which is to protect the people. If you let political leaders decide the security situation, things will go out of hand. Karachi is known for that type of security.
The world saw MQM shootings, 40 dead bodies of opposition workers and now MQM presents its laughable rebuttal! A car with two gun men shooting towards roof top.
What the hell milltary do....only rangers were deployed in useless areas....main ares are under MQM terrorist by internal advisor of Sindh,..Waseem Akhtar....
If army comes...then you people start weeping..as you weep from 1992-1995....
i cannot understand your logic ....
I do not weep on 1992-1995! NB did the right thing then. The menace was controlled to great extent.
well...mqm has proof that the violence was perpetrated by the opposition...
then isnt it mind boggling that mqm only suffered 2-3 casualities...and most of the casualities suffered were by opposition workers...
there's still no justification of the barricades at shahrah e faisal, and the blockades at malir bar and karachi bar...and what was mqm rally doing on the airport...firing on aaj tv...
if mqm is not guilty of anything...and the cj and the opposition is responsible for the killings then they should conduct a judicial enquiry and bring the responsible people to justice...
I do not weep on 1992-1995! NB did the right thing then. The menace was controlled to great extent.
yeah the people who weep are the ones whose loved ones were killed in extra judicial killings, or kidnapped by the 'law enforcement' nd released after a ransom was paid. Dont take my word for it, Un human rights reports document those very well. MQm was a menace, but the way the operations were handled affected scores of innocent people. Hopefully one day you would be able to personally relate to that sort of suffering.
well...mqm has proof that the violence was perpetrated by the opposition...
then isnt it mind boggling that mqm only suffered 2-3 casualities...and most of the casualities suffered were by opposition workers...
there's still no justification of the barricades at shahrah e faisal, and the blockades at malir bar and karachi bar...and what was mqm rally doing on the airport...firing on aaj tv...
if mqm is not guilty of anything...and the cj and the opposition is responsible for the killings then they should conduct a judicial enquiry and bring the responsible people to justice...
so a bunch of ghundas fought and the weak ghundas got beaten up worse. does not make tem shareef, just makes them weak ghundas, that day all sides were ghundas. only innocent party was the awaam.
yeah the people who weep are the ones whose loved ones were killed in extra judicial killings, or kidnapped by the 'law enforcement' nd released after a ransom was paid. Dont take my word for it, Un human rights reports document those very well. MQm was a menace, but the way the operations were handled affected scores of innocent people. Hopefully one day you would be able to personally relate to that sort of suffering.
NB saved 100s other families to weep like that! My point with dawa was that cj's action for the release of missing islamic terrorists was unjustified for the sake of country as it was necessary in 1992-1995.
^ so greater good over rides individual losses. I guess from a utilitarian POV that is fine, in which case FATA should be levelled.
The issue is not that there were uninetentional collateral victims as a price for that peace, but targeted harassment, extra judician killings, kidnapping for ranosms and extortions by our military and police aparatus then.
so a bunch of ghundas fought and the weak ghundas got beaten up worse. does not make tem shareef, just makes them weak ghundas, that day all sides were ghundas. only innocent party was the awaam.
thats true...but it was planned all along...by the government...they didnt want the CJ on karachi's soil...that was accomplished but in the process mqm lost the little goodwill that they earned during the past few years...in this affair the biggest loser has been mqm, and then musharraf due to his affiliation with mqm...
mqm being in power had more responsibility...and they acted the most stupid...they were controlling the city on 12 may...upon the barricades and on the bridges everywhere there was mqm's control...even they had sent their ghundas to the airport...the result is infront of every one...
an independent judicial enquiry is required if we want to avoid these things in the future...but i'm sure nothing of this sort will ever be carried out...cuz the role of the government is shady in this...although the judicial enquiry is necessary for mqm too, if it considers itself innocent...
scew MQM man, I have no sympathy for their goons, but lets not give a free pass to the other ghundas either just because we are so pissed at these morons.
I do not weep on 1992-1995! NB did the right thing then. The menace was controlled to great extent.
At the moment MQM is in ruling alliance. Suppose like Naseer ullah Baber of PPP, if someone from MQM decides that lets have a go on gundas of MMA, PPP and ANP in Karachi, and kill them all to make Karachi safe, and in process give all policeman and rangers free hand, stop any judicial process, resulting in many innocent people kidnapped, killed and money extorted from them on pretext they are supporter of these party and could be gunda, would you than weep?
[Their father was dead and thus their uncles went to collect the bodies, but police did not handed the body, asking their old mother to come and collect the body, who later became mental after seeing tortured dead body of her sons].
What happened was so barbaric that even if these two were MQM workers, I would never condone that. But for Naseer-ullah Baber, that was his barbaric ways.
I am sure Naseer-ullah Baber and those who supports him and condone his acts (as those who support such people and condone their gruesome cruel acts, becomes partners in those acts), would be answerable to Allah on judgment day and would burn in hell - InshaAllah. Naseer-ullah Baber victims may not find justice on this world but would surely going to find justice after death - surely Allah is most just and would give them justice they deserve and deserving punishment to Naseer-ullah Baber and his supporters, what they deserve.
Now you like that what Naseer-ullah Baber did, don't you? How would you feel if same happens to your brother, or any of your close family members?.
At the moment MQM is in ruling alliance. Suppose like Naseer ullah Baber of PPP, if someone from MQM decides that lets have a go on gundas of MMA, PPP and ANP in Karachi, and kill them all to make Karachi safe, and in process give all policeman and rangers free hand, stop any judicial process, resulting in many innocent people kidnapped, killed and money exhorted from them on pretext they are supporter of these party and could be gunda, would you than weep?
Yes this is really very sad and condemable but majority of the people who were caught and killed were callous killers who deserved to be killed. I also know one innocent chap who allowed to use his shop phone by some terrorist and later picked by the agencies and released after a week but succumbed to the tortures done on him the very next day.
