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Why not? What kind of muslim u claim to be? Someone desecrates Quran in front of you, and u will simply forgive him/her?
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@ anyone who finds a post from ak47 worthy of a pull quote, never mind earning a : rotfl:
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"Muslims skeptical over Newsweek apology"
and why shouldnt we be skeptical. Hasnt the AbuGharib incident been enough of an eye opener, who are you trying to impress with the fake trials of a few low level rednecks when the senior staff has been absolved. Its your judge, jury and defense. The poor iraqis, who should have been prosecuting, are instead still rotting in the cells.
lets say if the report were fake, we mustnt forget nor allow for this desensitization of islam and the quran. if jews and christians dont feel attached to their scriptures doesnt mean that we should do likewise. media will think twice before posting such crap next time around.
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When Muslims blow each other up in Mosques and Imambargh's, its OK to destroy the Quran along with its peripherals i.e., Sunni/Muslims human beings. I have never seen any Muslim standing up in protest of this criminal act.
So its OK for Muslims to blow up the Quran BUT not OK for the Americans or Westerners, then its sacrilege.
Churches are atatcked with impunity, blasphemy laws are put in place to discriminate and exploit the minorities, constitution restricts leadership to the majority religion and terrorists are idolized.
Political leverage is being extracted by the religious right, either we sort our house first before pointing fingers or become puppets of our new puppeteers (Mullas)....
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fatty Do you think muslims think it is ok to let other muslims destory qurans and mosques if you think that then you eating too much beef.
And if you have never seen muslims angry about that or causing a riot then you cant be going out very much!
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point to note is that most of the people killed were the protesters...i think all the ppl killed were them...the butcher afghan army under the control of hamid karzai opened fire on protesters....
and minah pa...i think you did not read the full post in the hating the west part..i said we do not hate them..but just their unislamic ways and immoral laws....whats wrong with that?
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White House forces Newsweek to retract story about desecration of Quran
Is the US Press subject to censorship?
Under intense pressure from White House and Pentagon, Newsweek has finally retracted the story about the desecration of Quran by US troops at world’s notorious torture camp at Guantanamo Bay. The retraction points out, once again, that the mainstream Press in the US is subject to censorship and newspapers are required to show their reports to Pentagon officials before they publish them.
It is hard to imagine that the Newsweek might have cooked up the story, or published it without proper professional appraisal of facts. But, instead of taking action against the actual perpetrators, the US Administration snubbed the medium and forced it to retract its story. It seems that the Administration wants to hide its evil deeds and is not willing to punish the evil doers.
White House and Pentagon’s pressure on Newsweek was not for the sentiments of the Muslims; it was for the security of US troops who are active in many Muslim nations as part of their Crusade against Islam. Newsweek was forced to retract the story to avoid events that might make it difficult for the US troops to move around in many Muslim states despite Muslim rulers like Karzai, Musharraf, Jaffari and Karimov licking their boots.
“… we regret that we got any part of our story wrong, and extend our sympathies to victims of the violence and to the U.S. soldiers caught in its midst,” is what the editor of Newsweek says. Click here to read details.
Just a few days ago the US Administration used similar pressure tactics to force the editor of Washington Times to apologize for showing Pakistan as a dog of US in a cartoon. It was not a wrong statement and there was no reason to apologize for this. If Pakistan’s leaders had any objection about it, they should mend the way they follow the US dictates. If they will act like a dog and lick like a dog, they will be called dog – at home and abroad. Since the cartoon was against a special “dog”, the editor was forced to apologize.
Suppressing reports and editorial comments or cartoons are not the indications of the free Press. These incidents are just tip of the iceberg. It seems that the mainstream US media is going through worst self-censorship, or in polite words, is subject to tough controls. Had the media been free, even a little bit, there would not have any torture cell at Guantanamo Bay or the troops would not have dared to desecrate Quran.
As far as Muslims are concerned, the retraction of the report cannot simply diffuse their anger. The US Administration should arrest the perpetrators and award them exemplary punishment to prevent such actions in the future.
By the way has anybody ever heard that any Muslim has desecrated Bible or Torah? Or Jesus (peace be upon him) or Moses (peace be upon him)? Never. It is simply impossible for any Muslim.
http://www.balochistanpost.com/item.php?id=43
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Odd one or two do not constitute public outcry, that is mostly orchestrated for newspaper and tv camera’s. Fact remains, we Muslims are guilty of same crimes with complicity of those religious leaders who have propagated hatred amongst different sects.
When was there an angry public protest against sectarian murders in the Muslim world of the same intensity witnessed over the last couple of days?..Double standards, political leverage and hypocrisy is the answer…
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I believe I did not write down what my reaction was aside from extreme anger, I did not go into details about the rest of my feelings. Kiddo dont jump to conclusions. 
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Wait a second are you blaming the muslims for destroying the qurans and absolving the terrorist yanks for occupying muslim lands i don’t even understand what is your argument.
The hatred between sects and nationalism does not come from islam because islam does not have any evidence to support sectarianism or nationalism these are alien concepts planted in muslim lands if you have proof of this is from islam bring it.
The fact remains secualrism promotes sectarianism it has concept called pluralism which promotes different groups there colour their differences and when these groups compete you have conflict. So if you have anyone to blame then blame the government and the system not islam because islam is not the ruling system in these lands secualrism is.
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^ chanda, pluralism has nothin got do with secularism. You are referring to democracy. And hte term is factionalism, factionalism works to the favor of the minorities because it allows for deliberation, which means watered down legislation to prevent the majority from running over the minority with idiotic laws, i.e. shariah for example.
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semantics are irrelevant and the fact remains secualrism is the biggest disease and disaster going responsible for 2 world wars and countless others despite the fact that extremist secualrists try to argue religion causes all wars hmmm yeah right.
As for newsweek apology it is just damage limitation stunt nothing else.
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^ No semantics are not irrelevant. Semitics are...it is the Asians turn now.
Secualrism didn;t cause war, secularists did, along with faithfuls of different faiths. Kind of like the armenian genocide was not done by Islam but by muslims.
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can’t draw a parallel here.. when was the last time there were reports of Bibles flushed down the toilet? if u have to defend egregious incidents by comparing yourself to the Saudi Monarchy, then by all means get off that high horse and roll in the dirt with the buddoos..
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PA - go to general and read the thread on Muslims wiping their butts with pages of the Bible before flushing. yawn Same old we're better than that crud.
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armenian genocide huh 
thats like saying only Brits died in world war II
If your going to bring up random examples like armenia have a balanced approach 3 times the amount of muslims died compared to armenians otherwise your agrument falls flat on its face.
Secualrism is a complete shambles problems after problems result from it, being an incorrect thought what else do you expect other than conflict and wars.
Secualrism is the problem not people they are the result of the system and government above them they are the by products so it is the system at fault.
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Incorrect and dishonest assumptions. Muslims do not practice what they preach which breeds contempt for their biased and prejuidiced principles. Islam does not teach double talk, in fact Munafiqat is one of the most hated forms of evil…
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Nobody ever said that Islam is to blame, here again you are making incorrect and blonkered assumptions. Problem is with those who preach hatred and double speak, not the religion.
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PA,
What a bunch of crap. Muslim countries in general are the most repressive when it comes to the respect and dignity of anybody elses’ religion. Somehow the prevailing attitude is that Muslims “would never do that”. Garbage. What happens every day in Muslim countries is far worse. Your crap stinks.
Read the US State Department Report on Religious Freedom in Paksitan, it is a horrible indictment of the way Muslims treat other religions when Muslims rule:
How about religious murder at the hands of prison guards!
Police torture and other forms of mistreatment of persons in custody are common. In August 2003, Samuel Masih, a 27-year-old Christian, was charged under the blasphemy laws for allegedly throwing trash on the outer wall of a mosque in Lahore. After a severe bout of tuberculosis in jail, he was moved to a hospital on May 21 under police custody. The next day, a constable assigned to guard him hit him on the head with a brick cutter, telling authorities later that he hoped “to earn a place in heaven” by killing a blasphemer. Masih died of his wounds on May 28; the constable has been charged with murder.
Rehmat Masih died at Lahore Services Hospital in April 2003, after reportedly being tortured by police. Rehmat Masih and a fellow Christian, Iqbal Masih, both sanitary workers at the civil secretariat, were taken into custody by the Sanda police on March 2, 2003. They were charged with stealing law books, while more than 10 Muslim clerks, secretaries, and other office staff, who had direct access to the books, were not accused. Rehmat did not accept the theft charges. A senior official, who reportedly wanted to protect the real culprit, pressured police to torture Rehmat Masih. The two suspects were held illegally for police interrogation for 20 days, after which Rehmat Masih was sent to the Lahore District Jail. Reportedly, police again tortured him. When his condition deteriorated, he was admitted to the hospital, where he died. After his death, protesters demanded that the Government issue murder charges against the police. One protester, Rehmat Masih’s nephew, was struck on the head by a police baton and subsequently died. In April 2003, the All Pakistan Minorities Alliance registered a complaint against the police and the senior official. As of the end of the period covered by this report, no action had been taken, but according to CLASS, Rehmat Masih’s wife was given 100,000 rupees (approximately $2,000) as compensation. In 2002 reportedly five persons were killed after being charged with blasphemy; however, these individuals never came to trial. Reportedly, they were Zahid Shah (from Chak Jhumbra), Zhim Hameed Khan (Bawalpur), Yousaf Ali (Lahore), Asghar Ali (Nosherah Wirkan), and Saeed Bhatti (Lahore).