Muslims ruled “Hindu India” for over 100 years. At that time, was there a single prevalence that made “Indian Hindu’s” experience such vindictive and hard-hitting proceedings (destruction of any Hindu temple/ killings of innocent Hindu’s etc) under Muslim rulers. Please someone enlighten on above asked question regarding Hindu’s being gunned down under Muslim ruled India.
Where as if we see today Hindu’s are in power and they are killing innocent Muslims, Christians, and forcing them to convert. Their religious belongings are not safe. They are being pulled down day by day.
Muslims ruled for 100 years and every one was happy. All Hindu Muslims were living together until English came in and started divide and rule which started the issues between us and hindus. They were happy under Muslim Rule before.
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Originally posted by Rehaan:
**Muslims ruled “Hindu India” for over 100 years. At that time, was there a single prevalence that made “Indian Hindu’s” experience such vindictive and hard-hitting proceedings (destruction of any Hindu temple/ killings of innocent Hindu’s etc) under Muslim rulers. Please someone enlighten on above asked question regarding Hindu’s being gunned down under Muslim ruled India.
Where as if we see today Hindu’s are in power and they are killing innocent Muslims, Christians, and forcing them to convert. Their religious belongings are not safe. They are being pulled down day by day.
Let see what “Hindians” have to say about it?**
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Where did you get 100 years? unless you meant 1000....
I meant over 100 years because I designated just Mughul emperors and they did rule India over 100 years, well to be more specific more than 1.5 hundred years and yes before Mughuls there were many muslim rulers who ruled India for about 1000 years.
Yeah Hindus were more than happy under muslim rule for 1000 years. How can someone be unhapy about 1000 years of slavery? teen char hazar sal slave rahen hon to aur bath hai. sirf 1000 years to kuch bhi nahi. abhi to maza hi anay laga tha ke gore a gaye. They should be thankful to God that they were slave for that long time. Now a days no one keeps anyone slave for more than few minutes(and that too in some hardcore sex games).
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Originally posted by Rehaan:
*I meant over 100 years because I designated just Mughul emperors and they did rule India over 100 years, well to be more specific more than 1.5 hundred years and yes before Mughuls there were many muslim rulers who ruled India for about 1000 years. *
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Mughal rule was more thn 100 year... When did Babur wrestled Delhi???
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Originally posted by Najoomi: Yeah Hindus were more than happy under muslim rule for 1000 years. How can someone be unhapy about 1000 years of slavery? teen char hazar sal slave rahen hon to aur bath hai. sirf 1000 years to kuch bhi nahi. abhi to maza hi anay laga tha ke gore a gaye. They should be thankful to God that they were slave for that long time. Now a days no one keeps anyone slave for more than few minutes(and that too in some hardcore sex games).
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no book I have read about history says that Muslims kept all Hindus as slaves. where did you get this slavery stuff from? only 'defeated armymen' were usually kept as slaves, and it was long tradition before (last version of ) Islam came in. (Last version of) Islam urged people to free as many slaves and treat them as kind of family member.
Rewriting Indian History,the author prefaces, "might well be called an
antithesis" for it questions many of the assumptions in the "standard"
treatises by Euro-centered colonialist historians and their imitations by
Indian Marxist writers.
Gautier focuses mainly on the Muslim period of India's history. "Let it be
said right away: the massacres perpetrated by Muslims in India are
unparalleled in history, bigger than the holocaust of the Jews by the Nazis;
or the massacre of the Armenians by the Turks; more extensive even than the
slaughter of the South American native populations by the invading Spanish
and Portuguese."
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Originally posted by rvikz:
**Rewriting Indian History,the author prefaces, "might well be called an
antithesis" for it questions many of the assumptions in the "standard"
treatises by Euro-centered colonialist historians and their imitations by
Indian Marxist writers.
Gautier focuses mainly on the Muslim period of India's history. "Let it be
said right away: the massacres perpetrated by Muslims in India are
unparalleled in history, bigger than the holocaust of the Jews by the Nazis;
or the massacre of the Armenians by the Turks; more extensive even than the
slaughter of the South American native populations by the invading Spanish
and Portuguese."**
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If you are refering to Francois Gautier then please have mercy on the history we all know how credible this person is.
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abdali i dont know weather it is true
compared to other historians. who knows how much native population suffered when
aryans invaded india.any invasion thousands
years ago must be devastating there is no cameras or televisions or world public opinion.
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Originally posted by rvikz:
**Rewriting Indian History,the author prefaces, "might well be called an
antithesis" for it questions many of the assumptions in the "standard"
treatises by Euro-centered colonialist historians and their imitations by
Indian Marxist writers.
Gautier focuses mainly on the Muslim period of India's history. "Let it be
said right away: the massacres perpetrated by Muslims in India are
unparalleled in history, bigger than the holocaust of the Jews by the Nazis;
or the massacre of the Armenians by the Turks; more extensive even than the
slaughter of the South American native populations by the invading Spanish
and Portuguese."**
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Gautier is right and massacres were perpetrated by Mongols mostly.
The Mongol invasion completly devestated the Muslim world.
Because Ghengis and company destroyed much of the irragation
quanats(under ground canals). And then Ghengis and company killed the
people who maintained these canals, and vast areas of Central Asia, Iran,
Iraq,and Syria became desert again, after centuries of work of building
up canals to make the desert bloom.
The population of Central Asia and the Middle East still isn't up to
the same level it was prior to the Mongol conquests.
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Originally posted by rvikz: abdali i dont know weather it is true
compared to other historians. who knows how much native population suffered when
aryans invaded india.any invasion thousands
years ago must be devastating there is no cameras or televisions or world public opinion.
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No cameras and Tvs so how can you claim what you claim? For every theory put out by the kinds of nutty Francois I can provide 10 by famous historians that will contardict him.
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Originally posted by Najoomi: Yeah Hindus were more than happy under muslim rule for 1000 years. How can someone be unhapy about 1000 years of slavery? teen char hazar sal slave rahen hon to aur bath hai. sirf 1000 years to kuch bhi nahi. abhi to maza hi anay laga tha ke gore a gaye. They should be thankful to God that they were slave for that long time. Now a days no one keeps anyone slave for more than few minutes(and that too in some hardcore sex games).
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Well..because of that slavery lots of Hindus like yourself became muslims. People didn't become muslims because a group of Mullahs with lots of money travelled from middle east to convert and lured them. .
Millions of people don't convert unless they are faced with death or dire consequences.
Yeah and the conversion in Europe (read Moorish civilization) was also because of slavery. And millions of converts in US were all slaves, all of Persia and Central Asia were all slaves so were the Chinese in the western China. And Africans were born slaves.. And thats why they converted
anyway, Rvikz himself contradicted his own statements so no point in defending.
Ms Rani, if Muslim rulers really wanted to ‘convert by sword’ they wouldn’t have left any Hindu/Christian/Jew on the land which was once under control of Muslim ruler. They never ‘forced’ Islam on anyone, even on the captives of wars.
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Originally posted by Rani:
** Well..because of that slavery lots of Hindus like yourself became muslims. People didn't become muslims because a group of Mullahs with lots of money travelled from middle east to convert and lured them. .
Millions of people don't convert unless they are faced with death or dire consequences.**
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Or maybe because they realized the flaws in their own religion/culture? If not, can you answer me why many Hindu/Indian prefer to be called or "converts" to Atheism after living in the west or getting a tid bit of education? I'm not lying, it’s a well known fact!
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You make no sense…there are no millions of converts in US and Europe to reach the level of conversion in India they will have to keep going for at least million years . A few black convert going back to their roots or spouces of muslims force to convert for love will not do the job.