Muslims Contribution To Science

[USResident]

@burqaposhx

Well I apologize if some of this “Inkishaf” hurt your feelings.

My question to you is! Why would you shoot the messenger. May be the messenger/commentator used sweet approach or a sarcastic one. No one is here to convert or sway the Islamists from their daddy jaan’s thinking.

USR,

Let me try to clarify some of the points you mentioned. And do remember that none of my comments are meant to hurt your feelings. Instead they are simply shown to state the reality.

#1 - Muslims cannot get a general set of directions or more precisely “medicine”. Each region and each country has a different set of ailment and different types of pathogens are making them sick.

So if you are looking for a paras puther, a touchstone that will turn every Muslim into gold, then keep looking.

#2- So tell me what was the direction of Bihari Muslims, or Punjabi Muslims or sindhi Muslims that they just lost?

What direction Saudi had that they lost. I have tabled this question in this thread but there has not been an answer.

Muslims in Punjab, Bihar, Sindh, Saudi, UAE, Somalia, Yemen have been living there for 1000s of years and yet there was no fing invention or scientific achievement. The only exception the British period when some of the Indian Muslims got educated in modern European institutions and got achievements. But those achievements could never be attributed to Islamism.

If you have european schools, raising scientists then the credit should go to European culture.

Why would Isalmists hijack the whole thing?

However Saudis and Arabs in UAE etc. never learned from Europeans either so their scientific contribution is ZILCH for the 1000s of years.

#3 – But people in the Islamic era were not on that much scientific hight that you want to project.

There were Muslims astronomers in the era of Galileo, but they could not achieve the knowledge and conduct discoveries on par with the europeans.

So it is time we quit feeding the lies and myths of Islamism.

unless you want to bring up the same old dead topic that starts like this:

----------- meray dada jaan nain donkey dart invent key thi

While the rest of group is talking about space travel and formula-1.

Thank you.

No hurt feelings here, just trying to make your sarcasm more productive because its more degenerative.

Where the heck did shoot the messenger come in here. Lets not even get on this tangent. And how about we try not to use the words Mullah, Islamist, Tribal or Jihadist for the sake of our discussion. It’ll render your posts more readible and coherent.

On to your clarifications. I wasn’t alluding to some magic potion that will turn around the fate of muslims. However if we take an unbiased and unpartial look at the muslim countries (emphasis on countries not individual muslims) today, we definitely are under-achievers. If you think so too, I am in agreement with you. For all of us to be in such a state, there has to be a common underlying thread to our problems. Even if we do realize that problem there is a lot of hinderance to addressing the issue, would you agree?

I think you went onto illuminate one of the most chronic problems which collectively all muslim countries face, lack of education and a system/infrastructure to support it. Secondly, my own addition to what you said, corruption. Its widespread top down. Islam is about salvation and following the rules set by Allah SWT. Allah SWT never guaranteed that good muslims will always be on top of the world and scientifically more advanced than other nations or cultures or societies. The scientific laws that govern the mechanism of the universe are for anyone and everyone to understand. Some body who is religious or knows Islam is not necessarily ahead in the curve of scientific research. The fundamental purpose of Islam is to secure your salvation in the next world and live by the code of Allah SWT in this world. The best muslim doesn’t have to be the greatest scientist neither does the best scientist have to be muslim.