Re: Muslims are jews? basically…
which prophet do u think the muslims worship???
if u think they worship Muhammad (saw), then i guess i was wrong to assume that u know anything about Islam…
u probably r looking at something else which is not Islam but rather a hateful description of a religion which u have never understood…
Re: Muslims are jews? basically...
the prophet SAW has said that NO jew or christian who hears of me but does not believe in me will go to heaven. IT IS a part of believe of ISLAM that jews adn christans are hell bound if they do not believe in islam when the message comes to them. and in todays world the message has arrived to most ppl living on this earth. so no matter how much these kafir musilms scream on top of their lungs that jews are going to heaven, true muslims will just smile and walk away, for verily how can one debate with these ppl.
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Worship doesn’t have to be toward of a God - that’s why the definition of worship includes an idol or sacred object in addition to a deity. I didn’t say Muslims thought Muhammed was God, but rather their devotion, adoration, homage, honor, exhaltation, reverence and glorification of one particular prophet above others is something that Jews don’t do.
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and what is it that they do with Moosa (as)????
jews and christians, going by their books, too shud see the high rank Muhammad (saw) holds among the prophets, but since they choose to deny him, they dont see him in that position....
whosoever among the jews and christians regards Muhammad (saw) as a prophet, will surely regard his higher position....
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No one among Jews and Christians acknowledge his as prophet, that's what makes them Jew and Christian. As far as Jews' view of Moses, he is given the same type of glorification.
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Muslims in current days are not allowed to follow Moses (PBUH) or Essa (PBUH).
We could end this by saying Jews are Jews, Muslims are Muslims and Christians are chiristians these days. Muslims are not jews....not basically, essentially or even partially.
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on the contrary, Islam is more like the SOURCE CODE, and Judaism has become a 3rd party application. 
Re: Muslims are jews? basically...
100% true. Allah likes them and even in Quran it is written that there are righteous Jews among the MAJORITY..... Unless their Torah is not corrupted, they will accept the Last Prophet too.
Every human being is born Muslim. It is their parents who make them Hindu, Christian, Jew etc.
Sorry i contradict the bolded part, can you prove it or explain more
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I know lots of Muslims who have those traits of Jews which have been condemned by Allah in Quran. And I know lots of Jews who have those traits of Muslims which Allah likes and has declared so in Quran.
Now who is good a Muslim Jew or a Jew Muslim ?
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isn't it a sworn objective of a number of Muslim leaders in the middle east to annihilate Israel, the only Jewish state?
I have this suspicion that Jews don't like to be called Muslims
But the other way as listed in the title is partially true in that the Muslims of the middle-east came from Jewish ancestors; as islam spread to other areas and people converted, you will find a bunch of Muslims who are Hindus (India, Pakistan, Bd) and any other religion for that matter
Re: Muslims are jews? basically...
isn't it a sworn objective of a number of Muslim leaders in the middle east to annihilate Israel, the only Jewish state?
I have this suspicion that Jews don't like to be called Muslims
But the other way as listed in the title is partially true in that the Muslims of the middle-east came from Jewish ancestors; as islam spread to other areas and people converted, you will find a bunch of Muslims who are Hindus (India, Pakistan, Bd) and any other religion for that matter
What does this have to do with the discussion at hand? Israel is a political issue conected with Zionism while what is being discussed here is a religious issue.
As for the rest, it doesen't make any sense. People were Hindus in teh past but now they are Muslims. Its a belief not a caste.
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What does this have to do with the discussion at hand? Israel is a political issue conected with Zionism while what is being discussed here is a religious issue.
next time ahmedinejad talks about jews of israel you won't agree with him then?
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next time ahmedinejad talks about jews of israel you won't agree with him then?
Is Ahmedinejad a religious or political leader?
Re: Muslims are jews? basically...
^ why does it matter what he is? focus on what wants to do
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What does he want to do?
I’m no fan of Ahmadinejad (or the Iranian government for that matter), but all of the statements I’ve read are directed against the political entity of Israel itself, not Judaism the religion, or Jews as a people. Even under his rule, Iran is still home to the largest Jewish community in the Middle East outside of Israel…they are guaranteed a seat in Majles, and allowed to operate their places of worship and schools, etc. Being anti-Israel isn’t the same thing as being anti-Semitic.
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One thing i know about their concept of God, is that its very anthropomorphic. In Islam the concept of God is totally opposite.
Shariah as we all know was very incomplete, in pre-Muhammad (sas) times, while some of the previous laws were totally changed in the new Shariah. For eg. the issue of Sajdah. You were allowed to do Sajdah to others in Pre-Muhammad times. As we know, Prophet Yaqoob (as) and his sons did Sajdah to Prophet Yousuf (as). But in the Shariah of Muhammad (sas), Sajdah to anyone but Allah, was made Haram.
Hence any Jew, who converts to Islam...would need to take Muhammad (sas) as his Prophet and follow his Shariah and his teachings, just like any other Muslim.
Peace bro Sharaabi
I am agreeing that Jews today are not Muslim, but to say that their anthropomorphic beliefs is a premise to distinguish us from them is not correct. Just like some Muslims went astray with anthropomorphism we must also conclude that they too have gone astray with this because their own prophets could not have taught a different message regarding the nature of Allah (SWT).
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Peace All
Jews for Allah ... there is another site which is Jews for Jesus ... These are Hebrew Christians or Missionary of Christians converting Jews to Christianity. Jews for Allah is a website made by a Hebrew Muslims or simply Jewish Muslim.
Before defining what is a Muslim and what is a Jew know that these two terms are apples and pears. Jewish is a description of ones race, whereas Muslim is a description of ones religion. The website is designed to invite sincere Jewish people towards Islam as its natural and proper successor to the 'Kingdom of Heaven on Earth' which is the Biblical title for Islam because at that time there was no name per se for the religion.
A Jew can only be a Muslim if he believes in Muhammad (SAW) and the latest laws are best adopted because previous scripture was mistreated and changed in places.
However, they are Monotheists and that means they could still be forgiven. Those people who treat Muhammad (SAW) with contempt are warned for this in the Qur'an. Al-Kauthar.
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100% true. Allah likes them and even in Quran it is written that there are righteous Jews among the MAJORITY..... Unless their Torah is not corrupted, they will accept the Last Prophet too.
Every human being is born Muslim. It is their parents who make them Hindu, Christian, Jew etc.
i could respond to several posts on here but read my mind instead as putting it to words herein would surely give me nth degree of warning points. :)
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Why this recent trend for threads such as:
etc
Re: Muslims are jews? basically...
^ why does it matter what he is? focus on what wants to do
Because this is a religious discussion not a political one. Start a thread on Ahmedinejad in WA and we can discuss that.