I happened to come across a couple of what i feel are disturbing quotes on threads posted here today - quotes from scholars stating to the effect that muslims arent allowed to have any love or respect to kafirs.
My question is, what do muslims here think of these statements. Do you believe in this?
No, I do not believe in these statements
No way. I don’t believe in these statements. Islam teaches love not hatred. Doesn’t matter if a person is a Muslim or non-Muslim, love and friendship is for everyone.
queerio do you hang on every word every shcolar says? who freakin' cares what this maulvi says.. he's entitled to his opinion however dumba$$ it is though..
There are plenty of mollahs on this site who would have saved yes, but I dont think they will. Too embarassing.
it's statements like these by a sick mind that have made muslim countries the way they are now.
Tell this maulvi he is eligible for a US visa and I'm sure he will shave of his beard and be standing at quaid-e-azam airport by tomorrow morning wearing his shorts
^ thats so true...
what scares me the most is when people grow up in these so called kafir countries, and then bag every aspect of it. Either u leave the country and go live in a totally islamic state or u stop talking nonsense... sometimes its so difficult for me to explain to non believers why islam is so good.. when comments like these are broadcasted..
Queer
No, i do not believe in them, and as i noted in another thread where u asked the question, no one in my family.including my very conservative nanhiyaal (mothers side of teh family) or the more liberal dadhiyaal ( dad's side of the family) agrees with statements like these.
as far as "scholars" go, there are many, some are real learned folks some are self declared.. any word that comes out of any given so called "scholar" can not be taken as the word of god. The word of god, its context, circumstances and timing along with common sense should come first, and be enough.
There is no denying that there are people who may take such intolerant statements as their modus operendi, but you will know who they are very easily, as they have similar closed minded viewsabout everythign else
The teachings of the Prophet on how you and I should treat our Non-Muslim friends and neighbours on a day to day basis as well as how government should treat a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state.
"He who believes in God and the Last Day should honour his guest, should not harm his neighbour, should speak good or keep quiet." (Bukhari, Muslim)
"Whoever hurts a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state hurts me, and he who hurts me annoys God." (Bukhari)
"He who hurts a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state, I am his adversary, and I shall be his adversary on the Day of a Judgement." (Bukhari)
"Beware on the Day of Judgement; I shall mysefl be complainant against him who wrongs a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state or lays on him a responsibility greater than he can bear or deprives him of anything that belongs to him." (Al-Mawardi)
"Anyone who kills a Non-Muslim who had become our ally will not smell the fragrance of Paradise." (Bukhari)
If Hadees by Abdali are correct then the writer of the original article is correct. Meaning of these Hadees is very clear.
The teachings of the Prophet on how you and I should treat our Non-Muslim friends and neighbours on a day to day basis as well as how government should treat a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state.
"He who believes in God and the Last Day should honour his guest, should not harm his neighbour, should speak good or keep quiet." (Bukhari, Muslim)
nothing particular about non-muslims in this. guests and neighbours are muslims.
"Whoever hurts a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state hurts me, and he who hurts me annoys God." (Bukhari)
"He who hurts a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state, I am his adversary, and I shall be his adversary on the Day of a Judgement." (Bukhari)
"Beware on the Day of Judgement; I shall mysefl be complainant against him who wrongs a Non-Muslim citizen of a **Muslim state **or lays on him a responsibility greater than he can bear or deprives him of anything that belongs to him." (Al-Mawardi)
"Anyone who kills a **Non-Muslim who had become our ally **will not smell the fragrance of Paradise." (Bukhari)
Most of us don't live in a muslim state.
"Anyone who kills a Non-Muslim who had become our ally will not smell the fragrance of Paradise." (Bukhari)
Become our ally, we'll become yours.
The reason why you get opinions like this is because the Quran is virtually unchanged from the day it was written which is both a strength and a weakness in some ways. So you get some morons applying the words which were sent to the prophet 1400 years ago to their own situation today totally ignoring the context of time and their own lack of qualification to be compared.
You might get some ass for example spouting holy verses while having an icon of a gay pop singer. How stupid is that?
Most people though don't subscribe to these views or no doubt one of our most popular forums wouldn't be shor sharaba, or our most popular sport cricket would have been banned because the players aren't sporting regulation beards and play in front of mixed crowds. Some asses watch these matches regardless which shows how much they regard their own hypocritical stance. So take it with a pinch of salt queerio.
…Is it any wonder that there are so few who stand up to fight and preserve the sanctity of Islamic teachings?
So what you are saying is that since the uniformity of Islam is its strengths and its weakness, we should analyse its strengths and keep them and discard the weaknesses, right? In other words, things that we consider as weaknesses in the final message of Allah :swt: we can get rid of them, right?
By your understanding, things that Allah :swt: decided for us to do, we can drop some of them because time doesn’t allow them to be carried into the future? Is it time or our own weakness, failure and fear that makes us want to shun some messages in the Quran that we think cannot be taken with us into the future?
I think you are a little mistaken here, Xtreme…Islam is a universal and unchanging Law of Allah :swt:, for you not to be able to carry it is your failure as a Muslim, not the failure of Islam as a faith for faith tries with fire and blood those who follow it…To guard its sanctity is the duty of every Muslim, not drop it everytime things get tough…
You seem to have confused Islam with your underwear…I agree, you should not take that into the future and change it ASAP…
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if quran mentions this, prophet :saw: have talked about this, if its allah’s hukam then yes i agree with that statement as who r we to say its wrong, if its farman-e-ilahi provided that’s the case, as i don’t know much about this issue.
peace 
**Listen all of Non-Muslims and Muslims, **
For Non-Muslims, It’s a sad thing to erupt confusion among us Muslims. A very lame thing to do. It is just like me going to some Non-Muslim website and copying and pasting the part of the script that will raise confusion to that group of people; which is very WRONG
If you had also copy and pasted the below surah from Quran, Majority of the muslims have thought TWICE before agreeing with your post
Queer
I understand that you might not understand what Quran is for us, but bro it is everything to us and I mean ** EVERYTHING **
WHEN IT IS CLEARLY SAID IN QURAN
.“You (O Muhammad) will not find any people who believe in Allaah and the Last Day, making friendship with those who oppose Allaah and His Messenger (Muhammad), even though they were their fathers or their sons or their brothers or their kindred (people).” [al-Mujaadilah 58:22]
Now I am talking to all the Muslims above who so aggressively agreed with Queer Statement.
** Who the hell are you or what Kind of Muslims are YOU (that is if you consider your self Muslims) to go against what is written in Quran ?**
Mr.Xtreme
Please mark it as only YOUR opinion DO NOT make it sound like it is the opinion of any other muslim but only YOURS. There are a lot of Non-Muslims and anti Muslims here, do you really want to give them the impression that, Quran being untouched, is a big weakness for Muslims…? Let me get this straight for you bro
Qurans is never ever changed and will not change; it is the pride of any Muslim, any given day. NOT A FREAKING WEAKNESS.
Dude…Whay were you thinking when you wrote that.. ?..
And people especially PA and Nescio, go ahead and knock your socks off by interpreting the verses above , according to your own comfort, but make no mistake, It is DAMN clear what Allah :swt: has said in his book.
And for rest of yo Muslims, try to get in detail of the question that seems a might off track before coming up blind foldy and agreeing with it. You might save your self with a lot of questions on the judgment day.
As for your answer queer, I strongly agree with what that guy has said there. BECAUSE
I would love and care any GIVEN DAY my Muslim brother/sister in need above a non-Muslim, because IMO there are so many and i mean so many Muslim brothers and sisters, in Africa in Ethiopia in Nigeria in Somalia in Kashmir in Palestine, who deserve my care love and affection on this day as compare to a Non Muslim.
THINK TWICE before buying a bouquet of roses for a non Muslim. Those $ 30 dollars or even $ 5 dollars can feed a third world country brother/sister in islam for a week to a month.
Shovel!!! Shovel !!! go ahead… Flame me… 
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**Listen all of Non-Muslims and Muslims, *
For Non-Muslims, It’s a sad thing to erupt confusion among us Muslims. A very lame thing to do. It is just like me going to some Non-Muslim website and copying and pasting the part of the script that will raise confusion to that group of people; which is very WRONG
If you had also copy and pasted the below surah from Quran, Majority of the muslims have thought TWICE before agreeing with your post
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I don't think you need non-Muslims to erupt confusion among Muslims. There are plenty of threads with Muslim-only posts that can't decide what fish to eat or how much to tolerate non-Muslims. Your posted verse from the Quran can (and in my opinion, should) be intrepreted as non-believers who OPPOSE Allah and his messenger. Very few non-Muslims OPPOSE your beliefs or even care for that matter. Westerners allow people the respect to follow their faith without judgement or putting them in categories such as 'not worthy of friendship or love' becaue of their religous beliefs.
No one is suggesting you forsake your Muslim brother/sister in favor of friendship or caring for a non-Muslim. God made our hearts big enough for unlimited love. That is probably the biggest gift He gave us. Intolerance is not a gift from God but rather one of those sins He would like us to overcome before we face His judgement.
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*Originally posted by SalmanNY: *
Mr.Xtreme
Please mark it as only YOUR opinion DO NOT make it sound like it is the opinion of any other muslim but only YOURS. There are a lot of Non-Muslims and anti Muslims here, do you really want to give them the impression that, Quran being untouched, is a big weakness for Muslims...? Let me get this straight for you bro
Qurans is never ever changed and will not change; it is the pride of any Muslim, any given day. NOT A FREAKING WEAKNESS.
Dude....Whay were you thinking when you wrote that.. ?......
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Did you hear me say that the Quran should be changed? No you didn't, so the weakness is in people like you who take these verses which were revealed 1400 yrs ago and apply them to yourselves and others as if everything has stood still in that time.
Didn't you post a thread in the WA forum proclaiming you were going to vote for a Kaafir in the next election? Hope you got some proof from the Quran and Sunnah for that bro, seeing as you think everybody else needs it.