For Zar Leo,
I dont know from where u got the ideas about me. I am a muslim a pakka Pakistani and proud of that as well as what muslims did in the past; but to me the downfall of muslims started when they did not try to eradicate the ills in themselves and started blaming others for that. One is not a failure unless he starts blaming others.
I am not sure how many muslims from Bangladesh, Pakistan and India can trace their ancestors to middle east which is smaller than one district of Punjab. as far as color goes most of the muslims have darker skin if u consider bangladesh and lower part of Pakistan.I think u have met only South Indians at yr Univ. because most of them come here.
If earlier muslims had the same views as u have I dont know how many people would had converted to muslims.
degas,
gotta tell u one thing. if u think ppl are stupid and u r wise, than both thinkings are wrong.
u r not the first, who clamming them pakistan after that much embaressment.
every where at yahoo chat or other places, when hinduus not left any choice after defeat in discussion . than they started to call them pakistani.
cuz thats u hinduuus nature.
first u hinduus under our rule and accepted us lord. than british when they came. u accept them lord(saheb buhader)
that u r cowward nature.
always see power.
u hinduus believe is that might is right.
when u left no point u convert to pakistani.
but u cant dodge my son.
Zar Leo, I dont think people r stupid or I am wise but u need 2 things, spellcheck and mindcheck. U r not able to answer any of my questions bur r beating around the bush.
As far as giving fatwas to as non-muslims u resemble lowest of mulas. I am president of Paksitan Student Association in US university. Even in our univ. we have one or two irrational people like u and we r really ashamed of them, likewise we have some bigoted hindus and all desis r tired of these idiots in both camps. Thats just like few extremist shias and sunis whose whole purpose in life is to create hatred but thank God majority r not among them. Bad people r few but majority have to suffer with their deeds. All claims I have read from both sides r done by few.
You readings are lowest of racist as u have gone low to even claiming color as your superiority forgetting Hazrat Bilal and his status. U have not replied about more than 18 crore Bangalis.
If u have any doubt about me email me I can tell u who I am here in States or in Pakistan.
Please continue this in the Religion section.
Thanks.
If this is the case, I wonder why is Taj Mehal listed among seven wonders of the world in the “Empire State Building” at 34st. 5th Ave in NY
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Batey Degas!
First make sure and then tell it…
Don’t just chorro!
It always goes against you, and makes the people think u as liar, and no one’s gonna believe you, then Betay
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For Shaheen,
I dont know who wrote at “Empire State Building” at 34st. 5th Ave in NY, but I am sure about what I said and even have won bet from an Indian. The simple reason is that Taj Mahal was even not built at the time list was compiled and even Great Wall of China is not there because they didnt knew if China exited at that tine in Greece and Italy.
1)Pyramids of Egypt
2)Pharos of Alexandria
3) Hanging Gardens of Babylon
4)The Temple of Artemis
5) Statue of Zeus
6) Mausoleum at Halicarnassus
7) The Colossus of Rhodes
The list dates to the fifth century B.C. when Greek historian Herodotus marvelled about some of the Wonders. Although it has been argued that other ancient wonders of comparable regard – such as the Great Wall of China, Machu Picchu in Peru, and the Aztec Temple in Tenochtitlan in Mexico – should have been included, these may not have been known about by the Greeks who first proposed Wonders for the list.
These r sites u can confirm from,
http://ce.eng.usf.edu/pharos/wonders/ http://www.mmmpcc.org/jerrywalkosz/wonders.htm
If u have more info. regarding this u can answer me. You can even look in any eccyclopedias.
Still waiting for knowledgeable Shaheen,
U should have gutts to admit your mistakes.
posted by Shaheen,
It always goes against you, and makes the people think u as liar, and no one's gonna believe you,>>
Degas.
Because you're my Friend
When you are sad,
I will dry your tears.
When you are scared,
I will comfort your fears.
When you are worried,
I will give you hope.
When you are confused,
I will help you cope.
And when you are lost,
And can't see the light.
I shall be your beacon
Shining ever so bright
This is my oath.
I pledge till the end.
Why you may ask?
Because your my friend.
Welcome Sanam but what u want here? Go to quotation heading. You are receiving a lot of www.justsaywow.com mails. Thanks for ur friendship.
degas,
let me ask u one question, however u and rani failed to give any answer of my question.
y those westren ppl specialy go to india to see that taj mehal, and y ur own hindii movies always says about taj mehal is wonder of world.
and tell u what, still i m not agree that taj mehal is not a wonder ful building.y the whole damn world know about that wonder ful building.
and hinduus what u built in past. u never even been colse to like building taj mehal.
u just built naked sclupture, cuz thats u were.
son chill out ok.
dont make me laugh at ur prejdice.
u r the first person.i ever met who saying that taj mehal is nt wonder ful.
than y in atlantic city they built taj mehal.
y clinton specialy took tour of tajmehal.
maybe the ensyclopedia u read was writen by any cheater hinduu auther.
cuz u guys also doubt full about ur hinstory.
thats y ur goverment order to rewriten hinduus history and try to hide facts.
u know what u hinduus are hipocrate.
one hand u says that we can live togather.
the other hand u guys jalious from our every success.
even not today u can check history, when aburehan all berony came to south asia thousand years ago. he wrote in his book about ur prohet 's jaliousy. he said the hidnuu ppl cant see others to being a successful.
and thats ur hipocracy.
For Zar Leo,
Whenever I need to laugh I read ur mails. You seem to me like an 'padha likha jahil'. Whoever dont agree with u, u term him as hindu. Thats the easiest way to show your mental capability. I have told u about me earliar and have no intention to sanction muslimhood from you. But I am really ashamed if you r muslim due to your shallow views.
We are maintaning a mosque in Saint Louis and with Allahs grace scores of Americans have become muslims here along with hundreds who have become muslim in jails here. The problem with us is that religion has taught us enough to hate but not enough to love one another.If u need more information about me email me.
As far as Taj Mahal is concerned I never said its not wonderful. Although I have never seen it people say that its one of the best building ever built. I said its not one of the 7 wonders of the world as many think and Shaheen said it was in the list. It was not even built when the list was compiled. You dont read and just start writing in agony. You can explore the whole web and if u find that its in 7 wonders tell me and Shaheen.
well degas,
u gotta check ur self by somee ...........
well i m goin to show u how mucl educated illetrate u r see ppl..
In reply to Zar Leo,
I dont know about the relevance of these few inventions to state of muslims nowadays. there r milllions of inventions and taj mahel is not even in 7 wondrers of world as many people think. I dont know who is Abdul kalam if he is by any chance Abdul Salam even he has no relevance to Pakistan's atomic program as he worked in string theories.
The only point on which muslim league was able to convince for Pakistans creation was that 99 % of muslims in India were converted and were actually from Indian soil and they were not foreigners as Zar Leo is implying.
Billions of dollars r pouring in India due to software industry. Kerala has 100 % literacy rate.
We should try to eradicate evils from our society and should not blame others for our failures but work hard to achieve something.
ppl tell me algebra is a small invention. u can imagen from that person who claimed him self muslimand pakistani and giving this kind of stupid comments.
acctuly hinduus u dont have and guts to face us. so u always a cheater.
and ppl have u listen from this degas ill educated that telliscope is small invention.
if u r educated than what they say to illetrate.
and degas betaa jee.
alhumduliallah i never said that i m perfect, cuz no human is perfect.but i never proud at my self. like u do
so son say before u do. u said my spell was incorrect
Zar Leo, I dont think people r stupid or I am wise but u need 2 things, spellcheck and mindcheck. U r not able to answer any of my questions(bur)beating around the bush.
t.
is this ur words check it with big glasses. if u think u r a perfect .
i took u pergraph from ur reply. i think u know ur words.
and degas dont feel ashamed to call ur self hinduu. u r what u r.
kova chela hense ki chal
apenee bhi bhool gia.
so kova degas be a kova.
Zar Leo,
No one is perfect except prophets of God and God only know whats in the hearts of people. Next time do think again in giving fatwas of non-muslims to others. I dont care what u call me as it doesn't effect me. I have written here what I feel that was right. I may be wrong but I have no capacity to judge other peoples iman. Next time u visit saint Louis do visit mosque at manchester road and see whats happening there.
As far as few inventions r concerned there is a long list u can find in Matric book of Biology. But telescope was invented by Galilio. algebra is an old sciece and Pyramids were constructed on square principles. Muslims in middle ages contributed a lot in advancing algebric principles.
But the problem was when they stopped advancing in progress and western civilization took the lead. Its good to take pride in the past but only for the betterment of the future. its vital for muslims to take initiative in Tech. revolution of today if they want to compete with other peoples.
As far as I said something about spelling of Zar Leo I am sorry about that but the abuses I got are also not less. as far as Taj Mahal is concerned I have explined that in last thread.