The discussion just seems to be going back and forth.. back and forth.. back and forth.
Can someone just tell me whether a Muslim woman is allowed to marry a non-Muslim man or not?
why do people want some one to just tell them things ? If he/she does .. Then they Argue and object ..
so it better one should take some time out ... like we all do for our worldly activities ... and research these matters ....
The book ( Quran) is there .. Sunnah is very well script'd .... You have given Brain and wisdom and Allah inviteth unto the Garden, and unto forgiveness by His grace, and expoundeth His revelations to mankind ...
I am not looking to argue or 'object' like you're saying. Since the last few days, one person comes in to prove a point then the other one does, and honestly, it's like watching a tennis match. Only, now it's just more confusing than ever before. That's why, why can't we just agree on ONE thing.
The discussion just seems to be going back and forth.. back and forth.. back and forth.
Can someone just tell me whether a Muslim woman is allowed to marry a non-Muslim man or not?
I think you should do a bit of research on Prophet Uzair PBUH ...
As ALLAH Almighty said
''The Jews call Uzair a son of ALLAH and the christians call christ the son of ALLAh . That is a saying from their mouth , (in this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of Old used to say . AllaH 's curse be on them : how they are deluded away for the Truth ! ''
P.s: If you are in Taqleed of Any Ayyat Ullah .. Let us know . Will get you a fatwah from him ...
Ok but I am talking about the scenario where they don't associate anyone with God/Allah. They truely believe in the oness of God/Allah.
And who is some Sheikh to determine whether or not a kid is legitimate or not? First off, moron doesn’t even know the concept of an “illegitimate” child doesn’t really exist in Islam. A child born from a sinful interaction does not inherit that sin. Therefore, no such thing as “******* children”.
That depends on many things FF but mostly on the country you live in or the cultural practices of the area where you are. Christians are maternally based. Muslims are paternal. Not sure about Jews. But its a cultural thing as far as how the whole marriage and resulting children are perceived no matter what the couple tells people prior to their marriage kwim?
What planet of Christianity are you talking about? I have very good friends who are fundamentalist Christians from the south, and I know pretty well by this point how paternalistic their systems are. They believe openly that men have an upper hand in family and decision making matters, they pass on the name of the father rather than the mother, and have very similar beliefs about what it takes to be a "good wife" compared to rigidly strict sunni beliefs.
PCG thats true as far as issues of daily living. But as far as children, the christian churches focus on the mother as handing down her religion to her children.
Every religion acknowledges Man to be the upper hand of a family and wife to be submissive to her husband… take a BELIEVING Christian wife for example… her religion teaches her…
Another verse that is important to mention is as such:
One can see that the women of the People of the Book are told to completely submit to their husbands regardless of whether the husband believes in the word or not. To them the husband has been given a position by God to rule over them. Thus it is highly unlikely for her to disrespect her husband regardless of his religion. At the same time the non- Muslim man comes from the line of thought that they are in this world to rule over their wives and that their wives should submit to them like they would submit to God. Hence it is highly likely for there to be clashes between the marriages of non- Muslim men with Muslim women.
However, this would further give rise to another question which people could ask. They could say that Islam teaches the wife to be respectful towards her husband so then there should be no clash between a Muslim wife and her non-Muslim husband. This line of argument would hold to be true only if the husband was given a status above God in Islam. That is of course not the case and Islam asks for complete submission to Allah (swt) and then come other responsibilities. Islam stresses on Muslims to respect their parents yet Muslims are not supposed to follow their parents’ orders if they are contrary to the teachings of Islam. Similarly a Muslim woman is not to follow what her husband says if it is contrary to the teachings of Islam.
Thus, keeping all the factors in mind any Muslim woman would agree that she is better off marrying a Muslim man as opposed to a non-Muslim man. Allah (swt) has Absolute Wisdom and thus He has set laws which are only better for us.
And yet muslim women get heavily abused in muslim countries - the abuse rates are high and punishment for the perpetrators is not dealt out justly. Isn’t it ironic that the people who follow the line of thought that men are so dominant have created a society in which a woman can easily get an education, earn an income and be financially independent, feed herself, purchase her own house, learn to protect herself physically, and enjoy basic human rights and luxuries, like…oh … say… a TOILET. That flushes.
Whereas, you go to places like pakistan and you see this:
My brother in law was in deep love with his gf...the problem was, none of them wanted to change their religion...my brother in law said "I will die, but never leave Islam" so they broke up...bot burra hua, but he put his mazabb in first place...
^ MashAllah, he did the best thing. For a Muslim (orthodox or not-so-orthodox), nothing can be put above his/her love for Allah and Prophet Muhammad (SAW).
What about domestic voilence victims in Pakistan, bangladesh, india, and rest of the arab world? Are they men?
You guys are not really understanding the question...
okay, let me be more clear.... by bring in domestic violence stats I am not comparing two societies... it is just stating a hard to digest fact that women are weaker than men, no matter which society they belong to, and thats why they are more on the receiving end of violence.... and the weaker a person is, the more he/she is ruled/influenced by the dominant one (daddy Darwin theory, remember????). Yes, weaker ones can rebel, but then what was the point in the first place to get married when they had to rebel in the end. So, a Muslim woman should be wise enough (especially the well-educated one) to NOT put her life in a trial-and-error experiment where she already knows what the end result would be like.
And yet muslim women get heavily abused in muslim countries - the abuse rates are high and punishment for the perpetrators is not dealt out justly. Isn't it ironic that the people who follow the line of thought that men are so dominant have created a society in which a woman can easily get an education, earn an income and be financially independent, feed herself, purchase her own house, learn to protect herself physically, and enjoy basic human rights and luxuries, like...oh ... say... a TOILET. That flushes.
okay that was a good one and needs a nice reply... but lets say I am not in mood of starting the argument over "How heavenly US/Western society is for women". I would rather like to stick to the FACT, that is, a PRACTICING Christian/Jewish society puts husband/man above everything else.... and a PRACTICING Christian/Jew husband will in no way ever show his understanding or be open-minded towards a Muslim wife when it will come to practicing one religion in the house or under which faith the kids would be raised.
PCG, I see what you're saying, have seen that women's rights is an issue close to your heart. I've been harping on lately about a book called "3 cups of tea" by Greg Mortenson...you really should read it. He dedicated his life to empowering the poor, especially women/girls in northern areas of Pakistan with little help and little resources. Amazing story and an amazing man. Anyway, the point is that the way to change things is to empower women through education. A woman who is educated and able to earn her own way is a woman much less inclined to resign herself to an abusive fate. As more and more women become more and more empowered, society will change. Not overnight but over time. Read the book, start a "pennies for peace" drive....help change things in your country!
