Noor the state has to respect civil liberties which in the case of France they are not doing.
Put it this way The Taliban forced women to wear the burqa. The French force them to take it off. Same coin different sides. There is no difference in their actions.
I completely disagree. Forcing women to wear the burqa relegated them to non people. They didn't have the right to show themselves in public. France requires that one show ones face in public. They can cite a myriad of reasons, some of which being for public safety, and for communication. In the West, covering ones face is equated with being sneaky, being two faced, being less than honest. People who rob establishments cover their faces, people who commit murders cover their faces, people who are open and an active part of society do not. The only time people do cover their faces, are when it's required for safety--against a harsh wind, or for medical reasons. Anything else is deemed suspicious. It is disturbing to the people of France, as well as people in much of the west, and that needs to be understood.
The law concerns everyone who covers their face. While part of it may be a reaction to the niqab, it encompasses more than just that.
I think people are assuming I'm staunchly anti niqab. I used to wear one. And yet,I still think if the government wants you to show your face, there is no harm, no violation of human rights, because those laws are in place to protect society as a whole. When the government starts trying to relegate how long your skirt can be, or what hairstyles you can wear, then we can start talking about violations.
the KKK are niqaabis too
I think it's sad that non-muslims have to force these people to stop covering their faces, these people should have done it themselves a long time ago.
If the purpose of the niqaab is to divert attention from oneself than wearing one in a western country is counterintuitive.
the KKK are niqaabis too
I think it's sad that non-muslims have to force these people to stop covering their faces, these people should have done it themselves a long time ago.
If the purpose of the niqaab is to divert attention from oneself than wearing one in a western country is counterintuitive.
hmm I'm confused, what exactly is the purpose of the niqaab? And why do these women do it? Why is religion used to justify wearing a niqaab? What's Islamic about it?
hmm I'm confused, what exactly is the purpose of the niqaab? And why do these women do it? Why is religion used to justify wearing a niqaab? What's Islamic about it?
It's supposed to protect women from men's perversion. Women pay the price because men are sexually starved and perverted and might rape them if they can see anything except the eyes.
hmm I'm confused, what exactly is the purpose of the niqaab? And why do these women do it? Why is religion used to justify wearing a niqaab? What's Islamic about it?
How about you stay 'confused' and leave these women the way they want to live? :)
Should anyone care about your confusion? No.
By this I am saying why do you even care what these women want to do and how they want to live?
Did you somehow get a God gifted authority to question anything so innocent and harmless?
Are you not opening up many people in this world to justify anything they feel uncomfortable with and making it as a law?
A biased, discriminatory law in a country which boasts of freedom maked its position hilarious.
It's supposed to protect women from men's perversion. Women pay the price because men are sexually starved and perverted and might rape them if they can see anything except the eyes.
I think you have run out of your own ideas and having a piggy-ride on other's posts in this thread. Earlier you praised Noor... and now this. :)
Dude! Your sugar-coated thread about what an indian doing on Pakistani forum is opening up here clearly!
What makes me wonder, is why you don't have a problem with it. These people, often foreign, under foreign influence, are doing things that are clearly unsettling to enough of the native population where they seek to outlaw it.
We are all subject to the rule of the land, and especially when you choose to move to a land where the customs are not your own, you'd do well to respect them. There's a limit to everything, even what we like to call religious self expression.
I certainly don't have a problem with women choosing to wear niqaab in the west. My wife is one of them. My experience has been that most people really don't care what others do as long as it doesn't harm them.
I've had the odd person try to lecture me about women's rights when they see me with her but that has been less than once per year. On the other hand, when people question her about why she does it, you actually have more people who appreciate it after her explanation.
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